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Old 04-21-2021, 09:14 PM
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16 vs 17 GLE63S

I have driven a 17 but not a 16. A couple questions;
  • Do they have the same exhaust? The 17 sounds incredible. Louder then my CL63 with a cutout. The 17 I looked at has a U21 Sport Exhaust I have not seen listed on a 16.
  • Did the 16 start getting android auto after a certain build date or is it 17+ only?
  • If no android auto on the 16, is the retrofit really just a quick code?
  • Is distronic steering assist more or less the same?
Old 04-22-2021, 09:15 AM
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The only documentation from Mercedes in the GLE Coupe 63S I have ever seen in terms of difference between 16 and 17 is the Mobile Chip. 17 started using Verizon instead of ATT Which to this day continues to be an unfriendly mobile service when it comes to connectivity. I carry ATT an md Verizon phones while traveling, so I can’t see the difference. Verizon is still not perfect but much better in most areas.

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IIRC, '16 was a transition year and they started offering carplay/android auto mid-year. So it depends on the build date. Software upgrade is not possible, have to replace the entire entertainment stack.
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IIRC, '16 was a transition year and they started offering carplay/android auto mid-year. So it depends on the build date. Software upgrade is not possible, have to replace the entire entertainment stack.
Thanks, thats what I am looking for. The one I am looking at was built in 15 so thats pretty much a no go, not worth the 1-2k savings over a 17.
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Originally Posted by loudog3114
I have driven a 17 but not a 16. A couple questions;
  • Do they have the same exhaust? The 17 sounds incredible. Louder then my CL63 with a cutout. The 17 I looked at has a U21 Sport Exhaust I have not seen listed on a 16
Exhaust U21 is also optional on 2016. The exhaust is a freer flow design - there is no valve control button.
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Not to hijack the thread but what exactly is the difference between a 166 GLE63 and GLE63s? I looked and can't seem to find what separates the two other than the emblem. Is the ECU tune different?
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Not to hijack the thread but what exactly is the difference between a 166 GLE63 and GLE63s? I looked and can't seem to find what separates the two other than the emblem. Is the ECU tune different?
550 HP. 516 lb-ft. 4.3 seconds 0-60mph. Silver Calipers instead of Red. 20 inch wheels standard.

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2016 GLE63 with U21; Old: 2012 ML550 , ML63 2009 - E550 W212 2010
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550 HP. 516 lb-ft. 4.3 seconds 0-60mph. Silver Calipers instead of Red. 20 inch wheels standard.
Based on this the S also has a "Sport Plus" mode
https://wieck-mbcanada-production.s3...af6dd9a1c4f3a3

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  • For Mercedes-AMG GLE 63 S there is the Sport+ transmission mode, which further enhances the characteristics of the Sport mode – the suspension is lowered by 25 mm."


    I am trying to decide if a ML63 2014 or a 2016 GLE63 or GLE63...hence researching the differences
edit: looked at a 2016 GLE non-S. Validated by VIN it is a non-S and still has the Sport+ setting option on that rotary dial based on vehicle pictures.Odd

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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Not to hijack the thread but what exactly is the difference between a 166 GLE63 and GLE63s? I looked and can't seem to find what separates the two other than the emblem. Is the ECU tune different?
whole engine is different.
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Originally Posted by loudog3114
I have driven a 17 but not a 16. A couple questions;
  • Do they have the same exhaust? The 17 sounds incredible. Louder then my CL63 with a cutout. The 17 I looked at has a U21 Sport Exhaust I have not seen listed on a 16.
  • Did the 16 start getting android auto after a certain build date or is it 17+ only?
  • If no android auto on the 16, is the retrofit really just a quick code?
  • Is distronic steering assist more or less the same?
get the one with apple / android play oem.
I'm currently annoyed on the daily without this until I get an upgrade lol
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2016 GLE63 with U21; Old: 2012 ML550 , ML63 2009 - E550 W212 2010
Originally Posted by Lingling
whole engine is different.
Do you have any reference we could look this up?
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Originally Posted by Lingling
whole engine is different.
Nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Lingling
whole engine is different.
Yes, please share.
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2016 GLE63 with U21; Old: 2012 ML550 , ML63 2009 - E550 W212 2010
One example showing it's the same parts... not a different engine
Same piston in GLE63 and GLE63S

Engine Piston
Part Number: 157-030-05-17
Other Names: Piston
Description: Sl63 amg. Cls63 amg s. Gl63 amg. Gle class. Ml63 amg. G63 amg. G63amg. Gls63 amg. Gle63 amg s. Incl.Piston Pin and Piston Ring Set.
Notes: Includes One Piston, Pin, And Rings. Includes One Standard Piston And Rings.


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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Yes, please share.
63s 157.98
63 157.982
Apologies for using the word whole.
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Anyone have a good source of detailed comparison? Google is not being kind.
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I’ve never heard or read anything other then the tune being different.
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get the one with apple / android play oem.
I'm currently annoyed on the daily without this until I get an upgrade lol
I did, ended up with an 18.
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Originally Posted by loudog3114
I did, ended up with an 18.
Congrats. Does it also have U21 Sport Exhaust?
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Congrats. Does it also have U21 Sport Exhaust?
It does; after test driving one with it theres no way I could do without it. Somehow its louder then my cl63 that was damn near straight piped with exhaust cutouts.
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Originally Posted by loudog3114
I did, ended up with an 18.
Congrats. Do you mind sharing the numbers (price and mileage)?
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Congrats. Do you mind sharing the numbers (price and mileage)?
Sure; not an amazing deal but a good one. Loaded Premium 3, 41k miles, $66k. Not CPO or anything though, those seem to go for 10k more. I have bought a few CPO cars in the past and it never seems to actually pay off.

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