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My lights have been sent back to the vendor. After the original lights were put back on, it was a big relief getting functioning lights back on my car, as opposed to having to park it in anything other than full daylight conditions.
Yesterday, I did a night drive back (desolate, dark, mountainous, twisty roads with fog in portions of it) with my original "High Performance LED" lights, and if the multi-beams/Swiveling LEDs on my All-Terrain were not available to compare against, I would have rated them as pretty decent lights. These are essentially a good mainstream pair of LED lights (Honda or Toyota level) but certainly not high-end car level.
While I was at the dealer recently, I noticed that pretty much all of the GLEs on the lot (other than say the GLE63 etc), and the GLCs, had these "High Performance LED" lights on them. Quite a few of the E-classes had the Digital lights on them. The Multi-beam LEDs on the GLE, in turn, were totally different from the Multi-beam LEDs on the GLS......the internal structure was drastically different, with the GLS lights looking much more complex.
For anyone debating moving away from the 2021 through 2023 headlights, I can confirm it is a simple plug and play exercise. No wiring or coding required. The old plug fits directly into the new headlights.
I also moved to the European lights without the amber reflector. The front looks so much more updated and clean now.
The first few shots have the old light on the right and new light on the left. The final shot are new lights on each side.
Just sharing for those considering to.
Thank you for the info.. Love the facelift model for their extra brightness and corner lighting.. can you share the eBay link for the light please?
So if you purchase euro headlights, you might have to make sure they aren't from the UK.
So my headlight saga truly ended yesterday, when I traded in the GLE450 for a 2025 E450 All-Terrain. Took a bath financially, of course.
My 2022 All-Terrain was sold to my brother, and thus with the GLE moving on, I now have only one MB at the moment. The 2025 All-Terrain, of course has the Multi-beam LED Digital lights, and I can see how phenomenal it is, especially when driving in pitch darkness.
Ever since the 2022 All-Terrain went to its new home, I had been exclusively driving the GLE450. And then after returning back to the E450 All-Terrain (2025), the overall feel was shocking......with the All-Terrain being nimbler, MUCH quicker and very light on its feet. Not sure how such a drastic difference in driving feel exists between these 2 vehicles. In fact, the 450 drivetrain is a far better match for the All-Terrain, than say the GLE, based on sitting in the All-Terrain, after a gap of over a month of being in the GLE exclusively.
So my headlight saga truly ended yesterday, when I traded in the GLE450 for a 2025 E450 All-Terrain. Took a bath financially, of course.
My 2022 All-Terrain was sold to my brother, and thus with the GLE moving on, I now have only one MB at the moment. The 2025 All-Terrain, of course has the Multi-beam LED Digital lights, and I can see how phenomenal it is, especially when driving in pitch darkness.
Ever since the 2022 All-Terrain went to its new home, I had been exclusively driving the GLE450. And then after returning back to the E450 All-Terrain (2025), the overall feel was shocking......with the All-Terrain being nimbler, MUCH quicker and very light on its feet. Not sure how such a drastic difference in driving feel exists between these 2 vehicles. In fact, the 450 drivetrain is a far better match for the All-Terrain, than say the GLE, based on sitting in the All-Terrain, after a gap of over a month of being in the GLE exclusively.
So my headlight saga truly ended yesterday, when I traded in the GLE450 for a 2025 E450 All-Terrain. Took a bath financially, of course.
My 2022 All-Terrain was sold to my brother, and thus with the GLE moving on, I now have only one MB at the moment. The 2025 All-Terrain, of course has the Multi-beam LED Digital lights, and I can see how phenomenal it is, especially when driving in pitch darkness.
Ever since the 2022 All-Terrain went to its new home, I had been exclusively driving the GLE450. And then after returning back to the E450 All-Terrain (2025), the overall feel was shocking......with the All-Terrain being nimbler, MUCH quicker and very light on its feet. Not sure how such a drastic difference in driving feel exists between these 2 vehicles. In fact, the 450 drivetrain is a far better match for the All-Terrain, than say the GLE, based on sitting in the All-Terrain, after a gap of over a month of being in the GLE exclusively.
According to Google, 500lb difference btwn the two.
If your life can accommodate a wagon then you've made the right choice. I'd take the wagon over the GLE if it weren't for the rear legroom. You should get the ILS+ programmin@EleBest now that you have the Multi-LED. Worth every penny IMO. Congrats. What color exterior/interior did you get?
According to Google, 500lb difference btwn the two.
If your life can accommodate a wagon then you've made the right choice. I'd take the wagon over the GLE if it weren't for the rear legroom. You should get the ILS+ programmin@EleBest now that you have the Multi-LED. Worth every penny IMO. Congrats. What color exterior/interior did you get?
Yes, the difference is roughly around 500lbs, which drastically alters the entire demeanor of the drive. Plus, they have done some alterations to the chassis of the new E-class, which makes it feel even more sportier than the prior version, and when compared against the GLE, the difference in the sportiness of the ride is really noticeable.
Yes, the rear legroom is noticeably lesser in the All-Terrain, vis-a-vis the GLE. The rear hatch area is deeper in the All-Terrain, by the same amount as the loss of rear legroom (around 3 inches), vis-a-vis the GLE. I also noticed that the transmission hump in the rear seat of the All-terrain is noticeably higher than the small bump in the GLE. So the rear seat usability of the GLE is significantly better.
So my headlight saga truly ended yesterday, when I traded in the GLE450 for a 2025 E450 All-Terrain. Took a bath financially, of course.
My 2022 All-Terrain was sold to my brother, and thus with the GLE moving on, I now have only one MB at the moment. The 2025 All-Terrain, of course has the Multi-beam LED Digital lights, and I can see how phenomenal it is, especially when driving in pitch darkness.
Ever since the 2022 All-Terrain went to its new home, I had been exclusively driving the GLE450. And then after returning back to the E450 All-Terrain (2025), the overall feel was shocking......with the All-Terrain being nimbler, MUCH quicker and very light on its feet. Not sure how such a drastic difference in driving feel exists between these 2 vehicles. In fact, the 450 drivetrain is a far better match for the All-Terrain, than say the GLE, based on sitting in the All-Terrain, after a gap of over a month of being in the GLE exclusively.
The best of both worlds would be an AMG53 with AMG Ride Control. Performance, room, handling, ride comfort. "Nimble" would have new meaning for you.
The best of both worlds would be an AMG53 with AMG Ride Control. Performance, room, handling, ride comfort. "Nimble" would have new meaning for you.
Believe you me, I did drive a few GLE53s (with and without the ride control), during this journey that led to the All-Terrain. I was super-busy all of last week, doing these various back-and-forths between the All-Terrains and the GLEs. I really wanted to stick to the GLE, because of the physical buttons and knobs, which have all disappeared from the new All-Terrain.
I also briefly considered the GLE63, but gave up on it, since it is higher than where I needed to land, price-wise.
PS: One surprising point I noted, is that a large number of the GLE580s come with the non-Multi-beam LED headlights. For a car priced that high, MB should not be short-changing the vehicle that way.
Believe you me, I did drive a few GLE53s (with and without the ride control), during this journey that led to the All-Terrain. I was super-busy all of last week, doing these various back-and-forths between the All-Terrains and the GLEs. I really wanted to stick to the GLE, because of the physical buttons and knobs, which have all disappeared from the new All-Terrain.
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You were lucky to find that many AMG 53s with AMG Ride Control.
It took me 2 months to find one, since I couldn't stand either the air or steel suspensions. I actually had to get permission to drive a Special Ordered car, from the person who ordered it.
No dealer orders that $5,000 plus package, it seems, just to have it available for test drives. All of a sudden they have a $100k six cylinder SUV in stock.
No, I don't expect to recover that "investment" at resale.
But I do enjoy Track Days, towing my RV, and climbing the passes around Ouray Colorado. Lost 8mpg, though, compared to my '20 450.
@Roweraay To your other point, I've specified whatever advanced lighting was available on every car I've owned for decades. Or immediately changed to Cibie or other offering on everything including my '63 Land Cruiser and '64 356.
I've still had two "deer incidents."
You were lucky to find that many AMG 53s with AMG Ride Control.
It took me 2 months to find one, since I couldn't stand either the air or steel suspensions.
No dealer orders that $5,000 plus package, it seems, just to have it available for test drives. All of a sudden they have a $100k six cylinder SUV in stock.
No, I don't expect to recover that "investment" at resale.
You need to check in the Seattle metro area. When GLE63s are a dime a dozen, you will not find any paucity for the lower-end GLEs that are optioned out to the gills. And yeah, there were several GLE53s that were well over 100K. There were several 105K+ GLE580s with reflector head-lights. Crazy option combos.
@Roweraay To your other point, I've specified whatever advanced lighting was available on every car I've owned for decades. Or immediately changed to Cibie or other offering on everything including my '63 Land Cruiser and '64 356.
I've still had two "deer incidents."
Ya, no rest while driving at night. In my area there are more deer than dogs.
I also used Deer Whistles for a while after I found out that BNSF & BLM both thought them to be effective. (Lots of copies but only THIS brand works http://www.sav-a-life.com/catalog/pr...b16848d560a715 )
You need to check in the Seattle metro area. When GLE63s are a dime a dozen, you will not find any paucity for the lower-end GLEs that are optioned out to the gills. And yeah, there were several GLE53s that were well over 100K. There were several 105K+ GLE580s with reflector head-lights. Crazy option combos.
Must be a prevalence of know-nothing inventory managers there, who were lost once MB separated package contents. Here, too.
Bad for both business and the bottom line, while forcing salespeople to sell goofy cars. Hard to do if they want repeat business.
Hello guys! I felt encouraged by this topic so I replaced the multibeam headlights on my GLE53AMG 2021 with the multibeam facelift 2024 headlights. I bought the headlights for the facelift model without modules and used the old modules from the original headlights. The problem is that the DRLs do not work completely, more precisely the two bulbs at the bottom do not light up. The service guys say they did the coding. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?
Same problem to me if you find something please tell me (putem discuta?)
Believe you me, I did drive a few GLE53s (with and without the ride control), during this journey that led to the All-Terrain. I was super-busy all of last week, doing these various back-and-forths between the All-Terrains and the GLEs. I really wanted to stick to the GLE, because of the physical buttons and knobs, which have all disappeared from the new All-Terrain.
I also briefly considered the GLE63, but gave up on it, since it is higher than where I needed to land, price-wise.
PS: One surprising point I noted, is that a large number of the GLE580s come with the non-Multi-beam LED headlights. For a car priced that high, MB should not be short-changing the vehicle that way.
The w214 all terrain does have the newest MB design language and tech and safety after all. Well, strictly speaking (given the new cla is out) the w214 all terrian has 2nd newest.
Yes, the plug does look to be fully compatible. I would reach out to Max from @EleBest and troubleshoot the problem. He and his team are absolute masters at this.
What was the problem, I also want to use my old modules for new lamps. Was there a problem with the coding?
Same problem to me if you find something please tell me (putem discuta?)
hey all,
anyone having DRL issue like this contact @EleBest
just fixed it for me after everyone here in NY and NJ that claimed they could could not, he was able to!!!!!
cannot thank you enough @wildta for recommending him
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if you find something please tell me (putem discuta?)
