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Great pics, thanks for sharing. My '21 580 has been great and no need to update but I do love that Alpine Gray...
How do these make it out to wild without anything to build on the web? Must have been from a press event? Guessing no monroney stickers and not for sale.
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Great pics, thanks for sharing. My '21 580 has been great and no need to update but I do love that Alpine Gray...
How do these make it out to wild without anything to build on the web? Must have been from a press event? Guessing no monroney stickers and not for sale.
No they all have stickers and they are all for sale, they have had them for about a week and a half and have already sold 2 or 3. I could have bought any of those.
Originally Posted by Im_Your_Father
I just got the 2023 model……. Please don’t make me cry lol. I barely know what my new car looks like
LOL, I feel ya. Honestly like I said I like both cars, its a very small upgrade. Its just the bumper, grille, taillights and steering wheel. Even the headlights are exactly the same which is kind of surprising. If a 2023 had fullscreen CarPlay I would absolutely buy a 23 for a better deal. The little CarPlay screen though is a total deal breaker for us though because we exclusively use CarPlay.
How do these make it out to wild without anything to build on the web? Must have been from a press event? Guessing no monroney stickers and not for sale.
mbusa.com is notiriously out of date and innacurate and should never be used as an actual sorce for whats available. Check websites like this or your dealership for ordering guides, they're the accurate ones.
I don’t know. I mean I like them, but something just isn't sitting right with me on them. I suspect I would have to see in person. But from pictures, I love the grey with the black accents on the trim and AMG front. I do like that front end for sure.
But then when looking at the white one, I don’t like the color marched fender flares, I think they throw off the wheels at certain angles, and looks a little too boxy in the wheel arching. Kind of reminds me the of LX570 a little bit. But to be fair, I think I am in the minority on liking the black fender flares instead of the painted ones. To me, they emphasize the wheels more, instead of the car body.
I don’t care for the new grill on the non-AMG front. It feel too much, too busy. And I can tell that I am not a fan of the new denim blue color. Doesn’t have that “pop” to it like the old midnight blue did. Reminds me the BMW blue a neighbor has on their X5. Just seems too casual for such a nice car.
But all of that said, one thing I do know for a fact, when it comes to German cars, you have to see them in person to really tell!
SW, if you end up buying one, the only thing I advise you to make sure you’re ok with is how they come to slow rolling stop. The clumsiness is annoying to live with sometimes, and as they age, it doesn't get better. My wife doesn't seem to mind, but when I drive it, it bugs me sometimes. I like a golf cart smooth rolling stop. This car, does not do that very well.
I don’t know. I mean I like them, but something just isn't sitting right with me on them. I suspect I would have to see in person. But from pictures, I love the grey with the black accents on the trim and AMG front. I do like that front end for sure.
But then when looking at the white one, I don’t like the color marched fender flares, I think they throw off the wheels at certain angles, and looks a little too boxy in the wheel arching. Kind of reminds me the of LX570 a little bit. But to be fair, I think I am in the minority on liking the black fender flares instead of the painted ones. To me, they emphasize the wheels more, instead of the car body.
I don’t care for the new grill on the non-AMG front. It feel too much, too busy. And I can tell that I am not a fan of the new denim blue color. Doesn’t have that “pop” to it like the old midnight blue did. Reminds me the BMW blue a neighbor has on their X5. Just seems too casual for such a nice car.
But all of that said, one thing I do know for a fact, when it comes to German cars, you have to see them in person to really tell!
SW, if you end up buying one, the only thing I advise you to make sure you’re ok with is how they come to slow rolling stop. The clumsiness is annoying to live with sometimes, and as they age, it doesn't get better. My wife doesn't seem to mind, but when I drive it, it bugs me sometimes. I like a golf cart smooth rolling stop. This car, does not do that very well.
I'm in agreement about the grille. It looks like the front of a generic American pickup truck instead of a Mercedes (if that look was the goal, mission accomplished!).
I normally see faces in the front of cars and "permanent marker" is very prominent in my mind (especially if the AMG exterior is white).
I don’t know. I mean I like them, but something just isn't sitting right with me on them. I suspect I would have to see in person. But from pictures, I love the grey with the black accents on the trim and AMG front. I do like that front end for sure.
But then when looking at the white one, I don’t like the color marched fender flares, I think they throw off the wheels at certain angles, and looks a little too boxy in the wheel arching. Kind of reminds me the of LX570 a little bit. But to be fair, I think I am in the minority on liking the black fender flares instead of the painted ones. To me, they emphasize the wheels more, instead of the car body.
I don’t care for the new grill on the non-AMG front. It feel too much, too busy. And I can tell that I am not a fan of the new denim blue color. Doesn’t have that “pop” to it like the old midnight blue did. Reminds me the BMW blue a neighbor has on their X5. Just seems too casual for such a nice car.
But all of that said, one thing I do know for a fact, when it comes to German cars, you have to see them in person to really tell!
SW, if you end up buying one, the only thing I advise you to make sure you’re ok with is how they come to slow rolling stop. The clumsiness is annoying to live with sometimes, and as they age, it doesn't get better. My wife doesn't seem to mind, but when I drive it, it bugs me sometimes. I like a golf cart smooth rolling stop. This car, does not do that very well.
Plain ugly to me, then again I'm not a fan of SUV's.
I don’t know. I mean I like them, but something just isn't sitting right with me on them. I suspect I would have to see in person. But from pictures, I love the grey with the black accents on the trim and AMG front. I do like that front end for sure.
But then when looking at the white one, I don’t like the color marched fender flares, I think they throw off the wheels at certain angles, and looks a little too boxy in the wheel arching. Kind of reminds me the of LX570 a little bit. But to be fair, I think I am in the minority on liking the black fender flares instead of the painted ones. To me, they emphasize the wheels more, instead of the car body.
I don’t care for the new grill on the non-AMG front. It feel too much, too busy. And I can tell that I am not a fan of the new denim blue color. Doesn’t have that “pop” to it like the old midnight blue did. Reminds me the BMW blue a neighbor has on their X5. Just seems too casual for such a nice car.
But all of that said, one thing I do know for a fact, when it comes to German cars, you have to see them in person to really tell!
The wheel arches are exactly the same as the pre refresh car. IMO the vehicle with the painted wheel arches just makes the vehicle. No offense but the regular model with the painted arches looks wagonish to me. The AMG car the arches show off the shapes in the side profile of it to where it really looks interesting and muscular. In person its really not a significant change from the pre refresh car at all.
I agree about the regular grille though, its also a matte painted silver and really looks cheap IMO. The AMG car gets a glossy chrome or black chrome grille (all those models are night package cars, non night package gets a glossy lighter silver grille).
SW, if you end up buying one, the only thing I advise you to make sure you’re ok with is how they come to slow rolling stop. The clumsiness is annoying to live with sometimes, and as they age, it doesn't get better. My wife doesn't seem to mind, but when I drive it, it bugs me sometimes. I like a golf cart smooth rolling stop. This car, does not do that very well.
Thats just modern MB unfortunately, my S560 feels the same way coming to a stop. I know exactly what you are describing. Its more noticable when you don't drive it all the time. Since I'm the primary driver of the S560, when I come back to it after having driven the Pacifica on a long trip thats when I notice it.
Great pics. Haven’t seen one in the flesh but I like the way the ‘24 looks in photos. The front end looks more muscular and beefy which fits this size of vehicle. Also love the addition of Bahia and Catalana leathers, much better than the old Espresso.
Looking at a GLS as your Pacifica replacement still?
Yeah, my wife though is having a hard time giving up the minivan. I think I am going to try and rent one and have her live with it for a week and see if she still thinks it’s an issue.
Yeah, my wife though is having a hard time giving up the minivan. I think I am going to try and rent one and have her live with it for a week and see if she still thinks it’s an issue.
Does she like the minivan form factor more? They are truly great practical vehicles without being the size of a Tahoe. Did you look at the Sienna? I think that’s the only minivan I’d consider.
GLS is definitely my top pick for this class though. I prefer the X7 interior, but it isn’t big enough inside, especially with all 7 seats filled for this class of car.
Does she like the minivan form factor more? They are truly great practical vehicles without being the size of a Tahoe. Did you look at the Sienna? I think that’s the only minivan I’d consider.
GLS is definitely my top pick for this class though. I prefer the X7 interior, but it isn’t big enough inside, especially with all 7 seats filled for this class of car.
the X7 believe it or not, was more responsive than the GLS. I’m talking X7M50 vs the GLS 580. The lightly larger engine might be a factor but the BMW drove great.
Just park the minivan on the street with the keys in it and then report it stolen!!!! Lol That should take care of the issue just kidding
Yeah, my wife though is having a hard time giving up the minivan. I think I am going to try and rent one and have her live with it for a week and see if she still thinks it’s an issue.
So. Let me get this straight. Your wife has a minivan. She likes it. Doesn't want to get rid of it for a $125k replacement. And the problem is? 😀
Does she like the minivan form factor more? They are truly great practical vehicles without being the size of a Tahoe. Did you look at the Sienna? I think that’s the only minivan I’d consider.
GLS is definitely my top pick for this class though. I prefer the X7 interior, but it isn’t big enough inside, especially with all 7 seats filled for this class of car.
Her issue is the sliding doors. She's convinced that opening the doors will somehow make traveling with the kids very difficult (they are 8). Otherwise she loves the GLS.
Originally Posted by nc211
So. Let me get this straight. Your wife has a minivan. She likes it. Doesn't want to get rid of it for a $125k replacement. And the problem is? 😀
LOL, its not that she likes it, she also likes the GLS a lot. She doesn't really care about cars. Her issue is like I said above, the sliding doors. She doesn't have any desire to continue driving a minivan.
My wife often needs to be nudged into things that she will ultimately really like.
My main thing is...I hate driving the minivan on trips! I want two vehicles that I enjoy driving. She doesn't enjoy driving anything shes not a car person.
And a $95,000 replacement. Not planning on going hog wild with options lol
My wife often needs to be nudged into things that she will ultimately really like.
And a $95,000 replacement. Not planning on going hog wild with options lol
ok. Three comments.
First, to the first above - do share the secret on how that works!
Second, to the second above - uh huh, yeah right. I hear infrared night vision along Constitution Ave is a necessity… who you foolin’? We’ve been on these and other boards together now for 20 years!
Third - I know you know this already, but it’s impossible to compete with those sliding doors for convenience and especially when you’re in the ninja turtle phase of life.
I will say this about our GLS when compared to the 2013 Highlander it replaced - there is real value in having a booger bucket that you couldn’t care less about, when the chicken nuggets go flyin’, fruit snacks go down the seat belt latch black hole, and you need at least 3 cup holders per kid! And at your kiddos age, I would make sure the seat height in the back works to prevent the motion sickness effect of the windowsill being right at eye line height. Those rear seats are slanted down pretty low. There is nothing fun with cleaning up puke on perforated leather(ish) seats!
One option you can skip - the rear window sun shades. We have them, totally useless and never used. Can’t remove them either if you need to clean them. I would also vote for the 7-seat configuration instead of the captain chairs. With the 7 seater, you can lower the center back to separate the two seats, and with some plastic velco strips to the bottom of a plastic bin, you can have the perfect collection area for snacks and drinks (sippy cups). Mom can also sit comfortably in between them if needed.
On the AMG line - two things bother me from experience with my 212 sedan - the wheels bending and drilled rotor holes clogging up. Once I replaced the AMG wheels and went to “blanks” on my front rotors on my 212, all has been right in its world. I replaced the AMG rims with knockoff wheels last winter, and have since hit of potholes that would have bent the AMG’s (again), but did nothing to the knockoffs. The drilled rotors would warp by 20k miles, and start groaning as well. I went thru two sets before ditching. Our GLS has nothing AMG related, and has been great.
First, to the first above - do share the secret on how that works!
You basically just have to make her do stuff lol. They say women marry their fathers and men marry their mothers, my mother is like that. We had a 1987 Ford Aerostar van that we traded in on a 1995 Ford Explorer Limited which became my first car a couple years later, but my mother was just like my wife she wanted to keep that old busted van and wanted another van, but I was 14, we didn't need a van and my Dad and I wanted something cool. He took the Aerostar "to get it washed" and brought it back as a 1995 Ford Explorer Limited lol. She was SO MAD, but she loved that Explorer and it stayed with her after I was done with it and she only donated it a few years ago.
He must have forged her name because it was in both their names!. Unfortuntely I had her lease the Pacifica in her name to get the payment off my credit report since we were buying a house shortly after, so I can't pull that lol.
My wife is ready for a hot mom car...she just doesn't realize it yet. She will lol
Second, to the second above - uh huh, yeah right. I hear infrared night vision along Constitution Ave is a necessity… who you foolin’? We’ve been on these and other boards together now for 20 years!
Haha, if it were my daily I would get it all tricked out. My S560 is pretty basic, but that was because it was already way more car than I could afford lol.
Third - I know you know this already, but it’s impossible to compete with those sliding doors for convenience and especially when you’re in the ninja turtle phase of life.
It is, but the klds are going to be 9 in February, and they can use doors like people.
I will say this about our GLS when compared to the 2013 Highlander it replaced - there is real value in having a booger bucket that you couldn’t care less about, when the chicken nuggets go flyin’, fruit snacks go down the seat belt latch black hole, and you need at least 3 cup holders per kid! And at your kiddos age, I would make sure the seat height in the back works to prevent the motion sickness effect of the windowsill being right at eye line height. Those rear seats are slanted down pretty low. There is nothing fun with cleaning up puke on perforated leather(ish) seats!
This is one thing that is absolutely true. They DESTROY the Pacifica, the kids and the dog and all, and I really don't care because I hate it. One reason why I want to stick with the MB Tex! Riding in the S560 doesn't make them sick I think they'll be fine in the GLS.
We'll see how it foes. The lease is up on the Pacifica this winter, if she wants to stay in a van I think we will just buy that out and keep it a couple years and then take a run at something like a GLS again.
My plan is if we get the GLS I'm going to keep the S560 and buy it out of the lease, if she wants to keep the van I will get a new S Class or something else.
One option you can skip - the rear window sun shades. We have them, totally useless and never used. Can’t remove them either if you need to clean them. I would also vote for the 7-seat configuration instead of the captain chairs. With the 7 seater, you can lower the center back to separate the two seats, and with some plastic velco strips to the bottom of a plastic bin, you can have the perfect collection area for snacks and drinks (sippy cups). Mom can also sit comfortably in between them if needed.
She's convinced that she needs the captains chairs for carpool, so captains chairs it shall be lol. The dog also likes to ride in the third row, and he comes up between the second row seats.
On the AMG line - two things bother me from experience with my 212 sedan - the wheels bending and drilled rotor holes clogging up. Once I replaced the AMG wheels and went to “blanks” on my front rotors on my 212, all has been right in its world. I replaced the AMG rims with knockoff wheels last winter, and have since hit of potholes that would have bent the AMG’s (again), but did nothing to the knockoffs. The drilled rotors would warp by 20k miles, and start groaning as well. I went thru two sets before ditching. Our GLS has nothing AMG related, and has been great.
I have the AMG line on my S560, I haven't had any issues with the drilled rotors clogging up, I run ceramic pads now and they are much better on dust and all. Also haven't had any issues with wheels, but I have the 19s not the 20s, and on the GLS I would get the smallest AMG wheels, the ones on this car:
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