Battle of the V8s: GLS580 vs X7 M60i vs RR SE P530
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Battle of the V8s: GLS580 vs X7 M60i vs RR SE P530
This video may sway you towards one car over another. If you've already bought, you can watch the video for entertainment value. The ending is pretty hilarious!
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I watched it and enjoyed it. If all else were equal what I would want is the Range Rover, but they are impossible to get, huge markups already, year long waiting lists. I don't like any car enough for all that...stylingwise inside and out I much prefer the GLS to the X7, and I prefer the X7 in the non M Sport, which means I would have to get the 40i. So for me the choice would probably be GLS580.
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Yeah, none of the above for me... which is why I bought an F-Pace SVR with a supercharged 5.0L 
Feels like everyone is "winding down" V8 production and focusing on electrics/hybrids and I don't want to be caught in the middle with a bunch of 48 volt stuff.
Feels like everyone is "winding down" V8 production and focusing on electrics/hybrids and I don't want to be caught in the middle with a bunch of 48 volt stuff.
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I watched it and enjoyed it. If all else were equal what I would want is the Range Rover, but they are impossible to get, huge markups already, year long waiting lists. I don't like any car enough for all that...stylingwise inside and out I much prefer the GLS to the X7, and I prefer the X7 in the non M Sport, which means I would have to get the 40i. So for me the choice would probably be GLS580.
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Yeah, it was entertaining and I agree that the ending was hilarious!
I am still trying to sort out the best way to work with the 2024 GLS 580's Auto Start/Stop. Sometimes it just isn't quickly ready to go. Then it jolts forward. Other times, it stops when you aren't even coming to a complete stop. I really hate to disable it.
It's odd that Car Confections talked about how smooth and perfect the Auto Start/Stop was, while Throttle House seems to have experienced the behavior that I see.
I also would have gone with the Range Rover LWB PHEV if the wait list wasn't 18 months and the reliability so low. I saw multiple issues in one day on two test drive vehicle. Plus a terrible, jolting self parking experience, and subpar driver assistance performance. But it looks sooooo good! Oh and the paint options were significantly better than those on the GLS.
I loved driving the BMW x7, but my wife enjoyed the ride so much more in the GLS, plus some options we wanted weren't available on the x7.
I am still trying to sort out the best way to work with the 2024 GLS 580's Auto Start/Stop. Sometimes it just isn't quickly ready to go. Then it jolts forward. Other times, it stops when you aren't even coming to a complete stop. I really hate to disable it.
It's odd that Car Confections talked about how smooth and perfect the Auto Start/Stop was, while Throttle House seems to have experienced the behavior that I see.
I also would have gone with the Range Rover LWB PHEV if the wait list wasn't 18 months and the reliability so low. I saw multiple issues in one day on two test drive vehicle. Plus a terrible, jolting self parking experience, and subpar driver assistance performance. But it looks sooooo good! Oh and the paint options were significantly better than those on the GLS.
I loved driving the BMW x7, but my wife enjoyed the ride so much more in the GLS, plus some options we wanted weren't available on the x7.
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Yeah, it was entertaining and I agree that the ending was hilarious!
I am still trying to sort out the best way to work with the 2024 GLS 580's Auto Start/Stop. Sometimes it just isn't quickly ready to go. Then it jolts forward. Other times, it stops when you aren't even coming to a complete stop. I really hate to disable it.
It's odd that Car Confections talked about how smooth and perfect the Auto Start/Stop was, while Throttle House seems to have experienced the behavior that I see.
I also would have gone with the Range Rover LWB PHEV if the wait list wasn't 18 months and the reliability so low. I saw multiple issues in one day on two test drive vehicle. Plus a terrible, jolting self parking experience, and subpar driver assistance performance. But it looks sooooo good! Oh and the paint options were significantly better than those on the GLS.
I loved driving the BMW x7, but my wife enjoyed the ride so much more in the GLS, plus some options we wanted weren't available on the x7.
I am still trying to sort out the best way to work with the 2024 GLS 580's Auto Start/Stop. Sometimes it just isn't quickly ready to go. Then it jolts forward. Other times, it stops when you aren't even coming to a complete stop. I really hate to disable it.
It's odd that Car Confections talked about how smooth and perfect the Auto Start/Stop was, while Throttle House seems to have experienced the behavior that I see.
I also would have gone with the Range Rover LWB PHEV if the wait list wasn't 18 months and the reliability so low. I saw multiple issues in one day on two test drive vehicle. Plus a terrible, jolting self parking experience, and subpar driver assistance performance. But it looks sooooo good! Oh and the paint options were significantly better than those on the GLS.
I loved driving the BMW x7, but my wife enjoyed the ride so much more in the GLS, plus some options we wanted weren't available on the x7.
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Yeah they are both great. Alex on Autos it has to be a car I am really interested in, but savagegeese and Throttle House I can watch any of their videos. Another good one is TheStraightPipes
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An SUV has no business going 178 MPH and handling like a sports car! Definitely not for anyone over 6' though but at 5' 7" it fits me like a glove. And I really have no use for four rows and a dozen seats, or however many they're putting in SUVs these days. My F-Pace SVR has plenty of cargo space which is what I really need out of an SUV.. cuz nobody wants to daily drive a van I guess.
Definitely not for anyone over 6' though but at 5' 7" it fits me like a glove. And I really have no use for four rows and a dozen seats, or however many they're putting in SUVs these days. My F-Pace SVR has plenty of cargo space which is what I really need out of an SUV.. cuz nobody wants to daily drive a van I guess.
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Same problem with 2024 GLS 450. I'll code it out after the warranty expires. Until then, I'm pressing the "auto start/stop off" button immediately after I press the engine start button.
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Every time I start my wife's 580 I immediately push the off button next to it to disable Auto SS. I despise the govt. intervention of this stupid feature. In the new LCI X7 it cannot be disabled...ever...there is no button as it was removed in MY23. People on BMW forums are losing their mind over this one switch so I glad I read it. Owned a M50i X7 and loved it, moved to GLS580 and love it more. Due for a new ride and keeping 580 due to physical buttons and button to disable ***. Otherwise might have went back to M60i but hell no just because all the physical buttons are gone and *** disable button is gone in BMW.
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- At least in the US they have to prove the change directly caused the failure
- It's likely not a trivial thing to compare coding for every warranty request. Blown up engine/transmission, sure check the programming, however they still can't void an engine/transmission warranty because the start/stop button remembers its last setting.
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Two things:
- At least in the US they have to prove the change directly caused the failure
- It's likely not a trivial thing to compare coding for every warranty request. Blown up engine/transmission, sure check the programming, however they still can't void an engine/transmission warranty because the start/stop button remembers its last setting.
Just like people always say those "warranty void if removed" stickers are not enforceable. But plenty of warranties still get denied because they know no one is going to spend the time and money to fight it.
On paper it might seem like the law protects consumers but in reality the seller holds most of the cards. Another example Lemon Laws are hugely in favor of the manufacturer.
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I really like and appreciate the Auto Start/Stop in my 2019 Chevy Equinox. It has never given me issues. I don't understand how the MB implementation in the GLS is so much worse. I will raise the issue when I bring it in for service next week.
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Most people comment on how seamless and unobtrusive the ISG is.
I've asked my passengers if they can sense when it turns on and off, but so far no one has been able to.
Unless there's something else going on with your car, like a sticky brake.
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MB does it backwards. On a Honda for example the auto-stop is only activated when you press the brake pedal all the way down so you have full control over it. The auto-brake always turn on when stopped.
But in MB you have control over the auto-brake but not the auto-stop. Its exactly the opposite of what I want.
But in MB you have control over the auto-brake but not the auto-stop. Its exactly the opposite of what I want.
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I watched it and enjoyed it. If all else were equal what I would want is the Range Rover, but they are impossible to get, huge markups already, year long waiting lists. I don't like any car enough for all that...stylingwise inside and out I much prefer the GLS to the X7, and I prefer the X7 in the non M Sport, which means I would have to get the 40i. So for me the choice would probably be GLS580.
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So I went by the LR dealer today. No Range Rovers on the lot. 10-12 month wait for a SWB, 12-15 month wait for a LWB, and if you want a LWB with the third row, 18+ months. Thats just the normal gas ones, we didn't even talk about PHEV. So obviously couldn't drive that.
I did drive a Range Rover Sport, and its a much more compelling vehicle than the GLS, would compare with the GLE obviously, but the interior and the ride and drive just felt much more special. So, I would definitely want a full Range Rover over a GLS or X7, but getting one is the big issue. I just have no interest in waiting 18 months for a car and you know when it comes in they're going to try and screw you.
I did drive a Range Rover Sport, and its a much more compelling vehicle than the GLS, would compare with the GLE obviously, but the interior and the ride and drive just felt much more special. So, I would definitely want a full Range Rover over a GLS or X7, but getting one is the big issue. I just have no interest in waiting 18 months for a car and you know when it comes in they're going to try and screw you.
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Do the RR's still have a matching alloy inside their full sized spare?
Full size spares have a special draw for me...
Didn't realize they were in such short supply.
Full size spares have a special draw for me...
Didn't realize they were in such short supply.
