Nail on my 23in pirelli pzero pz4 front tire
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2024 GLS450 2020 BMW X6 2022 Land Cruiser Prado
Nail on my 23in pirelli pzero pz4 front tire
Goodmorning to everyone.
i recently discovered this on my front tire...
Do i need to replace the tire.
I can't find any tire service that wants to patch the 23 in...
they only put a plug.
please help.
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not for repair...
What i wanted to be sure... is that with a car like ours....
should i replace the tire or not.
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If you are going to achieve peak performance from your car, replace the tire.
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it appears you’re close to the wear indicator and that may be why normal tire shops aren’t wanting to repair it. If you goto any Spanish tire shop in your city they should be able to repair it with a “patch plug”.
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in theory in bmw you have to change all 4 wheels when something happens to one tire..
this is my first experience with mercedes...
if i choose to replace it..
Do i have to replace the fronts (both) or just the damaged one?
they have around 13k kilometers...
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I need to know something else.
in theory in bmw you have to change all 4 wheels when something happens to one tire..
this is my first experience with mercedes...
if i choose to replace it..
Do i have to replace the fronts (both) or just the damaged one?
they have around 13k kilometers...
in theory in bmw you have to change all 4 wheels when something happens to one tire..
this is my first experience with mercedes...
if i choose to replace it..
Do i have to replace the fronts (both) or just the damaged one?
they have around 13k kilometers...
The Subaru all wheel drive series require matched tires, or the drivetrain will wear or fail unexpectedly.
I haven’t seen it anywhere, but I strongly suspect Mercedes 4matic equipped drivetrains will behave similarly.
So 1 new tire would throw off the balance of the set.
So if you did replace the 1 tire, and wanted to retain a balance for a 4matic, it should be the same brand and size, with the same amount of wear as the remaining 3 tires.
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The answer I am offering requires a foundation.
The Subaru all wheel drive series require matched tires, or the drivetrain will wear or fail unexpectedly.
I haven’t seen it anywhere, but I strongly suspect Mercedes 4matic equipped drivetrains will behave similarly.
So 1 new tire would throw off the balance of the set.
So if you did replace the 1 tire, and wanted to retain a balance for a 4matic, it should be the same brand and size, with the same amount of wear as the remaining 3 tires.
The Subaru all wheel drive series require matched tires, or the drivetrain will wear or fail unexpectedly.
I haven’t seen it anywhere, but I strongly suspect Mercedes 4matic equipped drivetrains will behave similarly.
So 1 new tire would throw off the balance of the set.
So if you did replace the 1 tire, and wanted to retain a balance for a 4matic, it should be the same brand and size, with the same amount of wear as the remaining 3 tires.
i had the experience with the xdrive in bmw...
2 tires from different brands threw the system outboard.. and damaged the transfercasee..
thanks for the advicee..
this is gonna be a big bill for new tires in this 23 in setup
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Accept the plug and drive on. Some stores require a plug to protect the interior patch from water intrusion.
I'd ask for both.
It looks like you have decent amount of tread left. Can you report it for us?
Check the original tread depth and compare to your current depth. If there's excessive wear and you have to replace it, always replace in pairs.
I believe the MB 4Matic system can handle more difference than the BMW X Drive, so "all four" may not be necessary.
I'd ask for both.
It looks like you have decent amount of tread left. Can you report it for us?
Check the original tread depth and compare to your current depth. If there's excessive wear and you have to replace it, always replace in pairs.
I believe the MB 4Matic system can handle more difference than the BMW X Drive, so "all four" may not be necessary.
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On my way BMW I just put on new tires, one of the ones replaced had a repair from a nail in about the same spot. It was repaired with only a patch. It had never lost air, and I purposely checked it to see the condition, since unless you get another flat or like me were changing the tire how would you know how it held up. The inside was bone dry and the patch looked fine to me. These tires don't have a long tread life anyway, so I would feel safe going to a reputable tire shop and see what happens. The TPMS will tell you if air leaks. Just my 2 cents.
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On my way BMW I just put on new tires, one of the ones replaced had a repair from a nail in about the same spot. It was repaired with only a patch. It had never lost air, and I purposely checked it to see the condition, since unless you get another flat or like me were changing the tire how would you know how it held up. The inside was bone dry and the patch looked fine to me. These tires don't have a long tread life anyway, so I would feel safe going to a reputable tire shop and see what happens. The TPMS will tell you if air leaks. Just my 2 cents.
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No they weren't run flats. Funny I just replaced them from Tirerack, with their suggested tire after explaining that i hate the car and it will be returned in 17 months at lease end and I wanted to thread a needle by getting economical but safe tires. They suggested RADAR brand , they didn't have many reviews but were considered ideal for my wants . They are horrible, extremely loud and sloppy. Called them yesterday to express my dissatisfaction and they told me if I buy new tires they would give me credit for the original purchase and I don have to return them.
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You may have more life left than others are surmising.
Have you measured the tread depth?
Just repair the tire and research the amount of difference in circumference that a 4Matic can tolerate. Then make a replacement decision with less pressure.
Several sources say a tread depth difference of 2/32" is acceptable, side to side.
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He has 4/32 - 6/32. That is nearly in the middle of the contact patch and should be easily fixed with a plug patch.
You can most certainly replace one tire if that's what you want. It will not harm the drivetrain in any way. The difference in circumference between a new and used tire will be easily dealt with by the differentials.
The bigger concern would be performance, particularly in bad weather (rain/snow) and/or emergency maneuvering. With one new tire and one partially used tire under emergency braking the new tire can potentially grip better and have a tendency to pull the vehicle either to the left or the right depending on what side it is on. Similarly new front tires with older rears can cause the back of the car to want to slide around the front. New rear and older front will have a tendency to understeer around corners. That said these issues will only appear at the extreme end of performance and will be a non-issue under normal conditions but is something that you should be aware of if you choose to replace a single or pair of tires.
You can most certainly replace one tire if that's what you want. It will not harm the drivetrain in any way. The difference in circumference between a new and used tire will be easily dealt with by the differentials.
The bigger concern would be performance, particularly in bad weather (rain/snow) and/or emergency maneuvering. With one new tire and one partially used tire under emergency braking the new tire can potentially grip better and have a tendency to pull the vehicle either to the left or the right depending on what side it is on. Similarly new front tires with older rears can cause the back of the car to want to slide around the front. New rear and older front will have a tendency to understeer around corners. That said these issues will only appear at the extreme end of performance and will be a non-issue under normal conditions but is something that you should be aware of if you choose to replace a single or pair of tires.
