newton22

I beg to differ. Keep in mind the kinds of people that are buying the C6 Z06s. Soccer moms won't buy them.

Speed Thrills

I figured it was "feet" or he was driving a time machine.

04E55 AMG

Sorry Guys! Scary that my 0-60 time in under 4 sec's With a 11.63 1/4, I bet my 0-60 is about 3.7/3.8....Almost a time machine

IanSL55

Maybe in Texas... but here in SoCal Car Country you'll find soccer mom's in AMG's and 911 Turbos. Though you may be partially right (the Z06 is a very special car in some ways)... I still think the majority of owners are NOT motorheads and have no notion or intention of modifying their cars.

We as a group here in this forum are certainly NOT the norm.

~ Ian

AMG_55

agree, my mom has an e55 :p

TopGun32

have you been to to a Z06 forum lately... your 1:10 ratio for moddifying their Z06's seems far from it...

i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...

Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers.

They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper...

If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input.

I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..

RennTechV12

I'm on the vette forum and tend to disagree with you. First of all, it was next to impossible to find mods for my C6, let alone the new C6Z. All they offer is bolt ons (headers, exhaust and a weak tune) which may add a total of 25HP at the wheels max. GM has squeezed the max out of the motors. These aren't FI'd Benzes that can be crazy modded to 200RWHP over and above stock. If a guy mods his C6Z, all he'll gain is about 25RWHP, that's it, unless he wants to go the turbo or SC route (which no on has developed yet).

Don't fear the modded C6Z!!!!!

Clk&Slk

Have you ever heard of CALLAWAY CORVETTE? Well, they're back !!!! Just for this new model.

RennTechV12

HMM, none of the Z owners has mentioned this. Do you have any real world application tests or data?

RennTechV12

Just went to the callawaycars.com every product I saw for the 2005-2006 Corvette had (except Z06) next to it. Where did you see this info?

Clk&Slk

I read it on one of those Corvette car magazine. Btw, did you see the 490 hp corvette without even turbo or sc ?!!!! What do you mean, 25 RWHP, that's it !!!! They're are currently working on the Z06, not yet release info. The price is in the $130K !!

AMG_55

since when do rims and springs void warranty??

i've had rims on my 94 e500 (1st car, i was 16) and mercedes covered everything, including 4 transmissions. my current car (03 clk55) has rims and i've had no prob. w/ warranty.

the only warranty it voids is on parts that are directly affected by the mod.
for example if u change the springs then the suspension warranty is void ONLY if they can prove that the springs caused the failure.
i had this happen on my 99 m3, the bolt that holds the diff cracked in half.
i had r compound tires in larger width than stock and h&r racing springs. they said that the tires provided too much grip and put too much stress on the drivetrain, the springs lowered the car too much and changed the angle of the driveshaft also.

Dead Ringer

yeah that was probably a built engine, and there are a LOT less people that will opt to teardown and rebuild a whole new engine... again we are talking about what you will probably encounter on the road, not only at the track. What percentage of C6 corvettes do you see on the road will have built motors running 490hp??

Speed Thrills

My gemballa TT ran a consistant 3.5 0-60. A time machine is the Saleen S7 or Bugati Veyron running in the mid to high 2s! I hear you can actually reverse aging by doing several 1/4 mile runs.

04E55 AMG

That Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (16 cylinders w/4 turbos) with close to 1000HP is human engineering at its best.

Good right up in the latest R&D that came in the mail yesterday (Jan 2006)

IanSL55

That's my point. Forum people are NOT the normal owners... The forum visitors maybe representing what... .01% of the marketplace? Probably less, with 90% of them being motorheads. You're sampling the wrong source. The bottom line is the majority of people who mod their cars are young... and most young people can't afford a $70K car let alone a $40K car.

I'd guess the average age for a Z06 owner to be close to 40 -- with a wife and kids. Not your average mod hound by any means, and certainly not someone who's worried about winning a race and getting that imaginary trophy waiting at the next exit ramp.

And I live in Irvine... sugar daddys? We call them husbands around here and demographically, most households are dual income.

~ Ian

PS: After market wheels do not void a warranty any more than tinted windows...

RennTechV12

Agreed. The "average" C6, let alone Z06, owner isn't going to do a "head and cam or twin turbo set-up" Judging by even the Corvette forum, only 3-5% of them do it. Like I said before...bolt ons might add 25RWHP!

IanSL55

If you go to the Veyron forum they're all modding them.

~Ian

(j/k: sorry I couldn't resist)

AMG_55

they really r modding them, no joke. :p

RennTechV12

Speaking of stupid horsepower, I've got a buddy with a twin turbo viper that put down 1200hp to the rear wheels before it shut the dyno down. I raced him this weekend, he ran a 10.80@149, that's things a Veyron Killer!!!

merc655

Wow, so how is that 996 turbo Renntech? And that freakin' Dodge Charger, and Bel Air nice stable.

Thericker

Where do I start?? You are very miss-informed when it comes to modding the new C6 period.....They allready have Twin Turbo applications ready from CARTEK, And (APS) there in Aus.w/a bunch of other tuners just putting there final touches to there TT app's for C6, They have multiple SC's from Maggnuson, Procharger, etc..Paxton is just finishing there 1st C6 application, and there getting CRAZY #'s

Also there's a Procharged, C6 on Corvetteforum.com that ran a 10.35xx in the 1/4.

And as far as your 25rwhp top gain from bolt-ons Dude there's plenty of guys getting 50+rwhp from headers,ecu, cat-back etc...The reason your able to easily tweak latest Mrecedes is THERE NOT N/A LIKE THE VETTE'S ARE!!
Why don't you ask Richard023 he has a brand new C6 w/pro charger and few other mods putting out 550 rwhp.

RennTechV12

Great! The C6 has been on the streets for over a year now and they are "just putting the final touches" or "just finishing" most of theses mods. And how many C6 owners do you think will actually install these kits, thus completely voiding their powertrain warranty? It took over a year for the tuners to be able to add FI to the LS2 (which still is by no means mastered). How long do you think it will take them to hack into LS7?


Uhhh...isn't that what I just said about 4 posts ago?


When I had my C6 (that I just recently dumped), I had Kooks headers, B&B Catback and a Ron Zimmer tune, the car made 23 more RWHP. I know of two other C6 owners who did the exact same thing, and they got 22 and 28 RWHP respectively (I was there for both dyno pulls). What did you get when you modded your C6?

Thericker

Good God your an arrogant SOB! they've perfected and had FI for the C6 for quite a while now, It didn't just happen know it all, I listed some other tuners that are just bringing there FI apps to market, that are mostly TT's

And if you went to ANY Corvette forum you'd see plenty of Dyno's backing up my claim of netting over 50+rwhp on bolt-ons, I've seen plenty that have similar mods that you listed that are gaining much mor than your 25 rwhp BS!

As soon as I sell my Benz and pick-up my new C6 you'll definitely see my dyno charts proving you wrong.

Were not all Daddys little boys, some of us actually have to EARN A LIVING.
So enjoy living in your fools paradise when trying to educate the rest of us on Corvettes....

RennTechV12

I'm arrogant because I had a C6 and I disagree with you? OK? All I did was quote you.

I'm telling you what I know from real world experience, not what I read in some magazine or on the internet.

You could have bought mine, I was all too happy to get rid of it.

What do you know about me? Why do you Vette guys always have to get personal? This is a CAR forum, all I have talked about is CARS, nothing else. You think you are the only one who earns a living? Can we stick to the topic at hand (CARS)? Sounds like you've got some issues Ricky.