CLS55 vs 06 Z06
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
Second, the entire aftermarket of chips, kits, and parts is alien to most consumers. And third, even fewer people who can afford a $70K car race.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Just to make things clear, thrills is talking about 0-60mph times and 04E55AMG is taling about a 60ft time.
I figured it was "feet" or he was driving a time machine.
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
I figured it was "feet" or he was driving a time machine.
With a 11.63 1/4, I bet my 0-60 is about 3.7/3.8....Almost a time machine 
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Originally Posted by newton22
I beg to differ. Keep in mind the kinds of people that are buying the C6 Z06s. Soccer moms won't buy them.
We as a group here in this forum are certainly NOT the norm.
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
Maybe in Texas... but here in SoCal Car Country you'll find soccer mom's in AMG's and 911 Turbos. Though you may be partially right (the Z06 is a very special car in some ways)... I still think the majority of owners are NOT motorheads and have no notion or intention of modifying their cars.
We as a group here in this forum are certainly NOT the norm.
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We as a group here in this forum are certainly NOT the norm.
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
Maybe in Texas... but here in SoCal Car Country you'll find soccer mom's in AMG's and 911 Turbos. Though you may be partially right (the Z06 is a very special car in some ways)... I still think the majority of owners are NOT motorheads and have no notion or intention of modifying their cars.
We as a group here in this forum are certainly NOT the norm.
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We as a group here in this forum are certainly NOT the norm.
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have you been to to a Z06 forum lately... your 1:10 ratio for moddifying their Z06's seems far from it...
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers.
They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper...
If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input.
I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
have you been to to a Z06 forum lately... your 1:10 ratio for moddifying their Z06's seems far from it...
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers.
They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper...
If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input.
I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers.
They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper...
If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input.
I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
Don't fear the modded C6Z!!!!!
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If a guy mods his C6Z, all he'll gain is about 25RWHP, that's it, unless he wants to go the turbo or SC route (which no on has developed yet).
Don't fear the modded C6Z!!!!!
Don't fear the modded C6Z!!!!!
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Have you ever heard of CALLAWAY CORVETTE? Well, they're back !!!! Just for this new model.
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Have you ever heard of CALLAWAY CORVETTE? Well, they're back !!!! Just for this new model.
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
If a guy mods his C6Z, all he'll gain is about 25RWHP, that's it, unless he wants to go the turbo or SC route (which no on has developed yet).
Don't fear the modded C6Z!!!!!
Don't fear the modded C6Z!!!!!
I read it on one of those Corvette car magazine. Btw, did you see the 490 hp corvette without even turbo or sc ?!!!! What do you mean, 25 RWHP, that's it !!!! They're are currently working on the Z06, not yet release info. The price is in the $130K !!
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
have you been to to a Z06 forum lately... your 1:10 ratio for moddifying their Z06's seems far from it...
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers.
They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper...
If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input.
I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers.
They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper...
If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input.
I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
i've had rims on my 94 e500 (1st car, i was 16) and mercedes covered everything, including 4 transmissions. my current car (03 clk55) has rims and i've had no prob. w/ warranty.
the only warranty it voids is on parts that are directly affected by the mod.
for example if u change the springs then the suspension warranty is void ONLY if they can prove that the springs caused the failure.
i had this happen on my 99 m3, the bolt that holds the diff cracked in half.
i had r compound tires in larger width than stock and h&r racing springs. they said that the tires provided too much grip and put too much stress on the drivetrain, the springs lowered the car too much and changed the angle of the driveshaft also.
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
I read it on one of those Corvette car magazine. Btw, did you see the 490 hp corvette without even turbo or sc ?!!!! What do you mean, 25 RWHP, that's it !!!! They're are currently working on the Z06, not yet release info. The price is in the $130K !!
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Sorry Guys! Scary that my 0-60 time in under 4 sec's With a 11.63 1/4, I bet my 0-60 is about 3.7/3.8....Almost a time machine
With a 11.63 1/4, I bet my 0-60 is about 3.7/3.8....Almost a time machine My gemballa TT ran a consistant 3.5 0-60. A time machine is the Saleen S7 or Bugati Veyron running in the mid to high 2s! I hear you can actually reverse aging by doing several 1/4 mile runs.
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
My gemballa TT ran a consistant 3.5 0-60. A time machine is the Saleen S7 or Bugati Veyron running in the mid to high 2s! I hear you can actually reverse aging by doing several 1/4 mile runs.
That Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (16 cylinders w/4 turbos) with close to 1000HP is human engineering at its best.
Good right up in the latest R&D that came in the mail yesterday (Jan 2006)
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
have you been to to a Z06 forum lately... your 1:10 ratio for moddifying their Z06's seems far from it...
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers. They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper... If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input. I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
i would easily say 50% of them mod their cars...
Chevy, Fords are the most modified V8's around... so many products for them and some are perfectly okay with the dealers. They have the money to buy a 911 996 but choose to spend $70k and spend the rest on mods.... a Z06 owner will not keep their cars stock for the simple reason that they don't want to loose to a modded SVT, Supra, Camero SS or Viper... If any one has a Z06 in this forum please provide your input. I work in Irvine and most the soccer moms are driving their sugar daddy's 911 or SL65/55 or Range Rover Sport... and most of them have after market rims which void warranty, they are lowered which void warranty... they dont seem to care..
I'd guess the average age for a Z06 owner to be close to 40 -- with a wife and kids. Not your average mod hound by any means, and certainly not someone who's worried about winning a race and getting that imaginary trophy waiting at the next exit ramp.
And I live in Irvine... sugar daddys? We call them husbands around here and demographically, most households are dual income.
~ Ian
PS: After market wheels do not void a warranty any more than tinted windows...
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
That's my point. Forum people are NOT the normal owners... The forum visitors maybe representing what... .01% of the marketplace? probably less.
The bottom line is the majority of people who mod their cars are young... and most young people can't afford a $70K car let alone a $40K car. I'd guess the average age for a Z06 owner to be close to 40 -- with a wife and kids. Not your average mod hound by any means.
And I live in Irvine... sugar daddys? We call them husbands around here and demographically, most households are dual income.
~ Ian
PS: After market wheels do not void a warranty any more than tinted windows...
The bottom line is the majority of people who mod their cars are young... and most young people can't afford a $70K car let alone a $40K car. I'd guess the average age for a Z06 owner to be close to 40 -- with a wife and kids. Not your average mod hound by any means.
And I live in Irvine... sugar daddys? We call them husbands around here and demographically, most households are dual income.
~ Ian
PS: After market wheels do not void a warranty any more than tinted windows...
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
That Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (16 cylinders w/4 turbos) with close to 1000HP is human engineering at its best. Good right up in the latest R&D that came in the mail yesterday (Jan 2006)
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
If you go to the Veyron forum they're all modding them.
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Speaking of stupid horsepower, I've got a buddy with a twin turbo viper that put down 1200hp to the rear wheels before it shut the dyno down. I raced him this weekend, he ran a 10.80@149, that's things a Veyron Killer!!!
Also there's a Procharged, C6 on Corvetteforum.com that ran a 10.35xx in the 1/4.
And as far as your 25rwhp top gain from bolt-ons
Dude there's plenty of guys getting 50+rwhp from headers,ecu, cat-back etc...The reason your able to easily tweak latest Mrecedes is THERE NOT N/A LIKE THE VETTE'S ARE!!Why don't you ask Richard023 he has a brand new C6 w/pro charger and few other mods putting out 550 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by thericker55
Where do I start?? You are very miss-informed when it comes to modding the new C6 period.They allready have Twin Turbo applications ready from CARTEK, And (APS) there in Aus.w/a bunch of other tuners just putting there final touches to there TT app's for C6, They have multiple SC's from Maggnuson, Procharger, etc..Paxton is just finishing there 1st C6 application, and there getting CRAZY #'s
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The reason your able to easily tweak latest Mrecedes is THERE NOT N/A LIKE THE VETTE'S ARE!!
Originally Posted by RennTechV12
These aren't FI'd Benzes that can be crazy modded to 200RWHP over and above stock.
Originally Posted by thericker55
And as far as your 25rwhp top gain from bolt-ons Dude there's plenty of guys getting 50+rwhp from headers,ecu, cat-back etc...
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Great! The C6 has been on the streets for over a year now and they are "just putting the final touches" or "just finishing" most of theses mods. And how many C6 owners do you think will actually install these kits, thus completely voiding their powertrain warranty? It took over a year for the tuners to be able to add FI to the LS2 (which still is by no means mastered). How long do you think it will take them to hack into LS7?
Uhhh...isn't that what I just said about 4 posts ago?
When I had my C6 (that I just recently dumped), I had Kooks headers, B&B Catback and a Ron Zimmer tune, the car made 23 more RWHP. I know of two other C6 owners who did the exact same thing, and they got 22 and 28 RWHP respectively (I was there for both dyno pulls). What did you get when you modded your C6?
Uhhh...isn't that what I just said about 4 posts ago?
When I had my C6 (that I just recently dumped), I had Kooks headers, B&B Catback and a Ron Zimmer tune, the car made 23 more RWHP. I know of two other C6 owners who did the exact same thing, and they got 22 and 28 RWHP respectively (I was there for both dyno pulls). What did you get when you modded your C6?
And if you went to ANY Corvette forum you'd see plenty of Dyno's backing up my claim of netting over 50+rwhp on bolt-ons, I've seen plenty that have similar mods that you listed that are gaining much mor than your 25 rwhp BS!
As soon as I sell my Benz and pick-up my new C6 you'll definitely see my dyno charts proving you wrong.
Were not all Daddys little boys, some of us actually have to EARN A LIVING.
So enjoy living in your fools paradise when trying to educate the rest of us on Corvettes....
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Originally Posted by thericker55
Good God your an arrogant SOB! they've perfected and had FI for the C6 for quite a while now, It didn't just happen know it all.....
Originally Posted by thericker55
And if you went to ANY Corvette forum you'd see plenty of Dyno's backing up my claim of netting over 50+rwhp on bolt-ons, I've seen plenty that have similar mods that you listed that are gaining much mor than your 25 rwhp BS!.....
Originally Posted by thericker55
As soon as I sell my Benz and pick-up my new C6 you'll definitely see my dyno charts proving you wrong.
Originally Posted by thericker55
Were not all Daddys little boys, some of us actually have to EARN A LIVING. So enjoy living in your fools paradise when trying to educate the rest of us on Corvettes....
