CLS55 vs 06 Z06
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CLS55(K1 mod) vs 06 Z06
What luck on a sunday afternoon after a round of golf to catch a glimpse of a new silver vette with paper plates up ahead of me. Of course my first thought is " what are the odds of that being a Z06".. And what a rush I got after maneuvering up close enough to see that Z06 badge. Well I follow him for a bit and do a fast lane change along the side of him just in time to catch a red light. So there we are...the dont walk sign flashing and my 1st Z06 opponent to my left. Since I have not had time to experiment with best start techniques I just figured I'd stick to the old "ESP on and floor it" system, which has been flawless so far besides the F430 race that a little better start would have gave me a win instead of my 1st tie.
The light turned green and for some reason he didn't punch it so since I was looking for him to start and not the green light I didn't either. I was giving him the taunt revs while we rolled away from the light just around 15mph and then he floored it. He probably got 1/4 a car length ahead of me before I floored it too. I quickly caught him and very slowly pulled away about a car length. After that distance he might have gained another 1/4 car on me and was held there until we had to break at about 120mph. At the next light he rolled down his window and asked "is that one of those AMGs?" Yes I said. He replies "wow.. that thing is fast". I gave him the thumbs up and went home with 2 sets of golf clubs in the trunk of my 4 door that just took one of the finest 2 door sports cars America has to offer.
I love this car.
The light turned green and for some reason he didn't punch it so since I was looking for him to start and not the green light I didn't either. I was giving him the taunt revs while we rolled away from the light just around 15mph and then he floored it. He probably got 1/4 a car length ahead of me before I floored it too. I quickly caught him and very slowly pulled away about a car length. After that distance he might have gained another 1/4 car on me and was held there until we had to break at about 120mph. At the next light he rolled down his window and asked "is that one of those AMGs?" Yes I said. He replies "wow.. that thing is fast". I gave him the thumbs up and went home with 2 sets of golf clubs in the trunk of my 4 door that just took one of the finest 2 door sports cars America has to offer.
I love this car.
Last edited by Speed Thrills; Dec 5, 2005 at 08:29 PM.
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Originally Posted by BiTurboV12 AMG
z06 guy cant drive stick worth crap. but thats what races come down to driver skill.
...still haven't seen one of the new Z06's on the road yet.
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Originally Posted by Scoop55
I would need a reeeeeeal crappy driver to win.
...still haven't seen one of the new Z06's on the road yet.
...still haven't seen one of the new Z06's on the road yet.
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
What luck on a sunday afternoon after a round of golf to catch a glimpse of a new silver vette with paper plates up ahead of me. Of course my first thought is " what are the odds of that being a Z06".. And what a rush I got after maneuvering up close enough to see that Z06 badge. Well I follow him for a bit and do a fast lane change along the side of him just in time to catch a red light. So there we are...the dont walk sign flashing and my 1st Z06 opponent to my left. Since I have not had time to experiment with best start techniques I just figured I'd stick to the old "ESP on and floor it" system, which has been flawless so far besides the F430 race that a little better start would have gave me a win instead of my 1st tie.
The light turned green and for some reason he didn't punch it so since I was looking for him to start and not the green light I didn't either. I was giving him the taunt revs while we rolled away from the light just around 15mph and then he floored it. He probably got 1/4 a car length ahead of me before I floored it too. I quickly caught him and very slowly pulled away about a car length. After that distance he might have gained another 1/4 car on me and was held there until we had to break at about 120mph. At the next light he rolled down his window and asked "is that one of those AMGs?" Yes I said. He replies "wow.. that thing is fast". I gave him the thumbs up and went home with 2 sets of golf clubs in the trunk of my 4 door that just took one of the finest 2 door sports cars America has to offer.
I love this car.
The light turned green and for some reason he didn't punch it so since I was looking for him to start and not the green light I didn't either. I was giving him the taunt revs while we rolled away from the light just around 15mph and then he floored it. He probably got 1/4 a car length ahead of me before I floored it too. I quickly caught him and very slowly pulled away about a car length. After that distance he might have gained another 1/4 car on me and was held there until we had to break at about 120mph. At the next light he rolled down his window and asked "is that one of those AMGs?" Yes I said. He replies "wow.. that thing is fast". I gave him the thumbs up and went home with 2 sets of golf clubs in the trunk of my 4 door that just took one of the finest 2 door sports cars America has to offer.
I love this car.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
The Z06 driver may of not pushed it. I would think from a roll (the strength of that car) that a stock CLS55 would have a hard time catching up. From a stop you would get him everytime. After driving on at our last track event, those cars pull hard when rolling. They trap the 1/4 mile @ 125 mph stock which is insane
This may be true but my K1 mod gave the the advantage to take the Z06. Sorry I didnt mention my K1 Mod in the story but it is in my signature. The stock CLS55 & Z06 0-60 and 1/4 mile are very close. But pushing 456rwhp and 570 ft/lbs of torque keeps me in the lead from a roll and a dead stop. I would like to find a friend with one so I can try many runs like I did with the Viper and the F430.
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
This may be true but my K1 mod gave the the advantage to take the Z06. Sorry I didnt mention my K1 Mod in the story but it is in my signature. The stock CLS55 & Z06 0-60 and 1/4 mile are very close. But pushing 456rwhp and 570 ft/lbs of torque keeps me in the lead from a roll and a dead stop. I would like to find a friend with one so I can try many runs like I did with the Viper and the F430.
Agree
Love seeing a fellow K car. I have the K2 w/LSD and IC mod.
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I would have thought the Z06 would leave the line like mad, considering the weight advantage and wider tires. Of course it all depends on how well the driver can launch.
Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
The Z06 driver may of not pushed it. I would think from a roll (the strength of that car) that a stock CLS55 would have a hard time catching up. From a stop you would get him everytime. After driving on at our last track event, those cars pull hard when rolling. They trap the 1/4 mile @ 125 mph stock which is insane
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Originally Posted by Roupin
I would have thought the Z06 would leave the line like mad, considering the weight advantage and wider tires. Of course it all depends on how well the driver can launch.
Hard as hell to launch! Those 325 rears just spin like crazy.
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
i think a properly driven z06 will eat ur car 4 breakfast.
it not only about power, the z06 weighs about 1100 (a little more) less than ur car.
it not only about power, the z06 weighs about 1100 (a little more) less than ur car.
That day at the track the Z06 never broke into the 11's in the 1/4 mile. I would say that the CLS would hold its own and have its own breakfast.
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
i think a properly driven z06 will eat ur car 4 breakfast.
it not only about power, the z06 weighs about 1100 (a little more) less than ur car.
it not only about power, the z06 weighs about 1100 (a little more) less than ur car.
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Originally Posted by can drive 55
Probably so, but in this case it did not. What happens matters, not what could have happened. Good job Mr. Thrills.
Mr. Thrills
i didnt mean to sound negative, was just stating facts.
i love the 55k engine (mom
has an e55)but i prefer n/a engines
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You said he still had paper plates on it which must mean the Z06 was just bought...he was just probley still in the break-in period...I believe a C6 Z06 would walk a CLS55. :v
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Originally Posted by G-baby
You said he still had paper plates on it which must mean the Z06 was just bought...he was just probley still in the break-in period...I believe a C6 Z06 would walk a CLS55. :v
I still have my paper plates on as well.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Agree Love seeing a fellow K car. I have the K2 w/LSD and IC mod.
Love seeing a fellow K car. I have the K2 w/LSD and IC mod.How do you like the K2 mod over the K1, or did you go straight to the K2?
I hear fantastic things about the LSD. My tech says it will immediately take .5 sec off my 0-60. What are your thoughts?
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Originally Posted by G-baby
You said he still had paper plates on it which must mean the Z06 was just bought...he was just probley still in the break-in period...I believe a C6 Z06 would walk a CLS55. :v
stock CLS with stock z06, from a dig and a roll it would be an easy kill for the Z06
K1 CHIP and PUlley E55/CLS55 vs ZO6 from a dig or a roll it would be close, but the top speed of the Z06 will kick in after 125mph+
K2 chip, headers, pulleys, LSC, ect. vs Stock Z06, K2 from a dig and roll. However you won't find many stock Z06's. Pretty soon you will see many Z06 owners will blowers, I/H/E, chips.. ect
I total believe this story, becuase shifting a car takes alot more precision than steppin' on the pedal. With a good driver and knowledgable one, it would be hard to beat.
just my .02$
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
K2 chip, headers, pulleys, LSC, ect. vs Stock Z06, K2 from a dig and roll. However you won't find many stock Z06's. Pretty soon you will see many Z06 owners will blowers, I/H/E, chips.. ect
just my .02$
a properly driven z06 will pull on a k2
weight to power
z06 6.4lb/hp
k2 cls55 7lb/hp
i used 3200lbs for the z06 and 500hp (its lighter than that, and supposedly the engine is making more like 550hp, i read that on numerous occasions)
cls i used 4200 and 600hp (not sure what the k2 brings it up to)
and lets not forget driveline loss for the auto vs. stick
and the vettes 6 gears vs. 5 for the cls
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
Most people with such cars never actually put the lic plates until months or years later...
Originally Posted by TopGun32
However you won't find many stock Z06's. Pretty soon you will see many Z06 owners will blowers, I/H/E, chips...
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[QUOTE=IanSL55]I have high performance cars in almost every driveway on my street (Vettes, M's, AMG's, Lambos, etc.) and everyone has plates on their cars. I'd assume high end car owners are much more likely to adhere to the law.
what gives u that assumption?
i assume people buy high end (fast) cars to say **** the law and then brake it on every possible occasion
personal experience :p
what gives u that assumption?
i assume people buy high end (fast) cars to say **** the law and then brake it on every possible occasion
personal experience :p
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
I total believe this story, becuase shifting a car takes alot more precision than steppin' on the pedal. With a good driver and knowledgable one, it would be hard to beat.
just my .02$
just my .02$
On another note: have anyone found the best launch technique for the K55. EPS on or off and what RPM to launch from?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
I have no reason to distort the facts of the race. Yes, there are many factors such as driver ability and mods ect, the guy could have even held back for all I know. But givin how close it was and that fact he hung with me in excess of 100mph I'm pretty sure he gave it all he had. But bottom line is the Z06 was beat by a small margin by a K1 CLS55. Like most have been saying there is a very small chance of error with the CLS55 vs a manual which can make the difference between a win or loss. Since this race didnt involve a "launch" most of the difficulty for the vette was taken out of the equation. I have seen mag test stats on the Z06 range from 3.6 (Car & Driver) - 4.2 (Road & Track) 0-60 which is a HUGE range. This was also true with the F430 as most mags tested the Euro version clocking 3.5 0-60 where are the de-tuned US version was getting low 4s and not equipped with the launch control option. Obviously many of these factors make a difference.
On another note: have anyone found the best launch technique for the K55. EPS on or off and what RPM to launch from?
Thanks
On another note: have anyone found the best launch technique for the K55. EPS on or off and what RPM to launch from?
Thanks
