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You can definitely fit 2 little guys back there. My back seat has long since been removed, but I'd say there is room, just make sure the seats are all stock, racing seats are not designed with rear passengers in mind (like my Sparco's). I'm familiar with the Yellow Mica color, but I've never seen one in person.
My Royal Sapphire Pearl badboy is one of only 21 in America. They really didn't make a lot of them, which I think will help when it comes time to part with my child.
My Royal Sapphire Pearl badboy is one of only 21 in America. They really didn't make a lot of them, which I think will help when it comes time to part with my child.
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'19 E63S, ‘16 CLS63 RIP, '09 E63 Gone, '06 M5 Gone, '97 Supra TT Gone
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Is the hood stock on the supra? I assumed it was custom, but after this post I have to ask. I remember when that model came out, a guy launched one and took off down the street like I'd never seen before. I remember a subtle and brief wheel spin and that was it, gone.
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Launching a Supra is as simple as picking an RPM and dumping the clutch, eeeesss fantastic. Its not a stock hood, its a CF replica of a TRD hood (TRD being the Toyota equivalent of AMG).
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nice RX-7...
it looks perfect.. not over the top and subtle mods.
Of course the money is well spent where it counts... at the engine.
it looks perfect.. not over the top and subtle mods.
Of course the money is well spent where it counts... at the engine.
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Launching a Supra is as simple as picking an RPM and dumping the clutch, eeeesss fantastic. Its not a stock hood, its a CF replica of a TRD hood (TRD being the Toyota equivalent of AMG).
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E55 AMG/ 911 GT2/ 911 GT3
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Jangy, could your car take a new Z06? Nope. Everybody here knows and loves the 55k engine, but it has its limitations and one of those is the fact that they're bolted into porky autos.
You wouldn't want to tango with either of our Japanese cars on the road.
You wouldn't want to tango with either of our Japanese cars on the road.
Another cool car is VRAlexander's 996TT that is running about 1400hp and is a daily driver. Sick...
Problem with Japanese rice rockets is that they start to fall apart when you pound them hard, especially at the race track.
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
True, but a Heffner Twin Turbo Viper would beat your Supra, so that is a prime example of displacement + forced induction.
Another cool car is VRAlexander's 996TT that is running about 1400hp and is a daily driver. Sick...
Problem with Japanese rice rockets is that they start to fall apart when you pound them hard, especially at the race track.
Another cool car is VRAlexander's 996TT that is running about 1400hp and is a daily driver. Sick...
Problem with Japanese rice rockets is that they start to fall apart when you pound them hard, especially at the race track.
I have to check this 996TT out, link? Should I do a search?
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
True, but a Heffner Twin Turbo Viper would beat your Supra, so that is a prime example of displacement + forced induction.
Another cool car is VRAlexander's 996TT that is running about 1400hp and is a daily driver. Sick...
Problem with Japanese rice rockets is that they start to fall apart when you pound them hard, especially at the race track.
Another cool car is VRAlexander's 996TT that is running about 1400hp and is a daily driver. Sick...
Problem with Japanese rice rockets is that they start to fall apart when you pound them hard, especially at the race track.
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If you are refering to people tracking their daily drivers at local race tracks then all bets are off since most people are novices & do not properly race prep their cars (changing all the fluids, replacing bushings, running a larger radiator, improving the brakers, etc). However, I see this lack of attention to detail with domestic car drivers as much as import drivers. I'd rank Japanese TRACK reliability up there with any of 'em (from what I have seen/experirnced at Seca, Thunderhill, and Infineon).
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E55 AMG/ 911 GT2/ 911 GT3
How many endurance races (Sebring, Daytona, etc.) has Mazda won in the last decade? Wasn't their last victory at Daytona back in 1991?
How many times have they won Le Mans?
The RX-7 is dated technology and easily eclipsed by today's contemporary sports cars, especially modern Porsches like the GT3-RSR or even the GT3 Cup cars.
If Mazda were to make an RX-8 based racecar, do you really think it would beat the best from Stuttgart?
Please don't compare an RX-7 to the 911... as for pedigree and racing victories, there really is no comparison. Porsche has many more victories around the world than any of the Japanese... isolating it to IMSA is using selective statistical sampling.
How many times have they won Le Mans?
The RX-7 is dated technology and easily eclipsed by today's contemporary sports cars, especially modern Porsches like the GT3-RSR or even the GT3 Cup cars.
If Mazda were to make an RX-8 based racecar, do you really think it would beat the best from Stuttgart?
Please don't compare an RX-7 to the 911... as for pedigree and racing victories, there really is no comparison. Porsche has many more victories around the world than any of the Japanese... isolating it to IMSA is using selective statistical sampling.
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
How many endurance races (Sebring, Daytona, etc.) has Mazda won in the last decade? Wasn't their last victory at Daytona back in 1991?
How many times have they won Le Mans?
The RX-7 is dated technology and easily eclipsed by today's contemporary sports cars, especially modern Porsches like the GT3-RSR or even the GT3 Cup cars.
If Mazda were to make an RX-8 based racecar, do you really think it would beat the best from Stuttgart?
Please don't compare an RX-7 to the 911... as for pedigree and racing victories, there really is no comparison. Porsche has many more victories around the world than any of the Japanese... isolating it to IMSA is using selective statistical sampling.
How many times have they won Le Mans?
The RX-7 is dated technology and easily eclipsed by today's contemporary sports cars, especially modern Porsches like the GT3-RSR or even the GT3 Cup cars.
If Mazda were to make an RX-8 based racecar, do you really think it would beat the best from Stuttgart?
Please don't compare an RX-7 to the 911... as for pedigree and racing victories, there really is no comparison. Porsche has many more victories around the world than any of the Japanese... isolating it to IMSA is using selective statistical sampling.
Mazda stopped selling the RX-7 in Europe & the Americas in 1995 so ya,....it has not been competing for over a decade.
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Also, what are you talking about in your reference to LeMans? Class? Overall? Mazda won LeMans outright in 1991 (the only Japanese manufacturer to ever do so). The last time Porsche won it outright was 1971 with the 917K (In 1971 I was 5 yrs old. By 1991, I was a Marine officer - a little more "recent" than Porsche's last victory). Selective statistics....my azz.
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The RX-7 has competed and won championships all over the planet....not just IMSA (SCCA, Spa Francorchamps, LeMans, the Bathhurst series in Australia, etc). Its even been a good platform in car drag classes along with the Supdawg
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I'm not trying to be an azz, but I've seen this before - blind loyalty to a particular car or make. Its ridiculous. The RX7 has a tremendous racing heritage but its just a dayam car which is built with the integrity of a Pepsi can (it was created to be a lightweight sports/track car). It is no Austin Martin or Ferrari, but its still a fun car with significant racing heritage. You might want to read up a bit. Here are some links quick racing summary links for you:
http://www.millville.org/Workshops_f...ls/racing.html
http://www.mazda.com/history/rotary/r3-1.html
PS - how many cars has Porsche got in F1? Zero. Their last effort was with Nikki Lauda in the TAG/Porsche/McLaren car 22 years ago. BAR/Honda & Toyota are competing at the pinacle of racing & Porsche is nowhere to be found. These cheap little Japanese (Rice Rocket) manufacturers are competing and doing pretty well while Porsche won't even enter the fray.
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E55 AMG/ 911 GT2/ 911 GT3
You are clearly ignorant about Le Mans.
The 911 GT1 Evolution took 1st and 2nd in 1998, marking the 16th win for Porsche at Le Mans, more than any other manufacturer in history. Porsche has stayed out of the LMP1 class the last few years because of their agreement with VW/Audi... but they will be back soon. Will Mazda be ready to take them on??? No, because they're too busy screwing around with making their zoom zoom zoom econo ****boxes.
In addition, look at the GT3-RSR's dominance in the GT2 category... where is the almighty Mazda?
I don't see the point in arguing with you, if you think Mazda or any Japanese manufacturer comes close to Porsche in making sportscars or race cars, you are truly misguided.
Then you switch gears and talk about F1. OK, while we're on the subject, since the Japanese cars can't seem to win any races except for the flukes every now and then, I suppose that would make Renault, Ferrari, and Mercedes clearly superior to the Japanese as well. Porsche doesn't participate in F1 due to economics, plain and simple.
It seems to lend doubt as to whether you have had any seat time in a GT3 or GT2. I am sure your little RX-7 is so superior to my GT2 anyway... so I guess there is no point in arguing.
The 911 GT1 Evolution took 1st and 2nd in 1998, marking the 16th win for Porsche at Le Mans, more than any other manufacturer in history. Porsche has stayed out of the LMP1 class the last few years because of their agreement with VW/Audi... but they will be back soon. Will Mazda be ready to take them on??? No, because they're too busy screwing around with making their zoom zoom zoom econo ****boxes.
In addition, look at the GT3-RSR's dominance in the GT2 category... where is the almighty Mazda?
I don't see the point in arguing with you, if you think Mazda or any Japanese manufacturer comes close to Porsche in making sportscars or race cars, you are truly misguided.
Then you switch gears and talk about F1. OK, while we're on the subject, since the Japanese cars can't seem to win any races except for the flukes every now and then, I suppose that would make Renault, Ferrari, and Mercedes clearly superior to the Japanese as well. Porsche doesn't participate in F1 due to economics, plain and simple.
It seems to lend doubt as to whether you have had any seat time in a GT3 or GT2. I am sure your little RX-7 is so superior to my GT2 anyway... so I guess there is no point in arguing.
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I have both a 2005 Turbo S Porsche and a S600 Benz both at 600HP. The rice rockets will never have a chance.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
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Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
I have both a 2005 Turbo S Porsche and a S600 Benz both at 600HP. The rice rockets will never have a chance.
Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two.
Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
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Take some math. I have over 400 RWHP (490 hp at the crank) in a 2600 lb. car.
The 2001 Porsche turbo made 415 to the crank! The GT2 made 456 to the crank! 25 hp less than my RX-7. The 911 turbo weighs in at a HEFTY 3500 lbs! My RX-7 weighs slighly more than 2600 lbs.
911 turbo 415hp 3500 lbs = 8.4 power to weight.
Gt 2 456hp 3500 lbs= 7.6 power to weight
RX-7 482 hp 2650 lbs= 5.49 power to weight
The only thing your car would ever see is the back end of my RX-7.
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Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
I have both a 2005 Turbo S Porsche and a S600 Benz both at 600HP. The rice rockets will never have a chance.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
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Back to F1. Honda doesn't win races & if they do its is a "fluke"? Williams Honda won the F1 World Championship in 1987
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Did I say my RX7 was superior to your GT2?
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Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
I have both a 2005 Turbo S Porsche and a S600 Benz both at 600HP. The rice rockets will never have a chance.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
And yes, a 410 RWHP(whats that 500 at the crank?!) RX7 should pull a Turbo S with 450 crank hp.
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Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
I have both a 2005 Turbo S Porsche and a S600 Benz both at 600HP. The rice rockets will never have a chance.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
What your RX7 must have raced was some 1985 Turbo Clone. The 2001-2005 rear slot has three veins not one or two. Take a look at the pictures below and remember there is no way in HE#L you will beat a late model Turbo Porsche.
Just wondering. And your P car would get MOLESTED by a BPU Supra, including at a track.
Yellow R1's car would destroy both of them too, as it weighs less than my television and probably puts down 500 at the Rotor
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And if you're wondering, my car can pull over a G on the skidpad so we can take it to the twisties too.
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
How do you figure a 4500 pound 600 CRANK hp family sedan is going to take out my 1000 CRANK hp car that weighs 3200 pounds, with superior suspension technology and a 6 speed? Its a 9 second car and it traps at 140, try that in either of your cars without strapping a Saturn V rocket to it.
Just wondering. And your P car would get MOLESTED by a BPU Supra, including at a track.
Yellow R1's car would destroy both of them too, as it weighs less than my television and probably puts down 500 at the Rotor
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And if you're wondering, my car can pull over a G on the skidpad so we can take it to the twisties too.
Just wondering. And your P car would get MOLESTED by a BPU Supra, including at a track.
Yellow R1's car would destroy both of them too, as it weighs less than my television and probably puts down 500 at the Rotor
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And if you're wondering, my car can pull over a G on the skidpad so we can take it to the twisties too.
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Talk about reading posts! I do not have the GT2. Porsche made a Turbo S model in 2005. Only 500 world wide and 250 for the states, read about it, it is a track car.
If your modified-to-the gills cars will even start on race day, bring them on. I have seen so many of you out at the race track trying to get your 500+HP car to work for just 1 ¼ mile run so you can post your run on the I-net and then put down a $160,000 car.
I live in So. Cal. where there is more bad-*** rice rockets than Japan.
My 600HP DAILY DRIVERS start-up every morning. Who cares how fast your $20,000 car will goes, it will never be a Benz or Porsche no matter how many HP's it has.
Also, I pulled a CLK55 AMG in both my cars. The other two posters do not even have a Benz.
If your modified-to-the gills cars will even start on race day, bring them on. I have seen so many of you out at the race track trying to get your 500+HP car to work for just 1 ¼ mile run so you can post your run on the I-net and then put down a $160,000 car.
I live in So. Cal. where there is more bad-*** rice rockets than Japan.
My 600HP DAILY DRIVERS start-up every morning. Who cares how fast your $20,000 car will goes, it will never be a Benz or Porsche no matter how many HP's it has.
Also, I pulled a CLK55 AMG in both my cars. The other two posters do not even have a Benz.
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Your bias is hysterical. You pulled an NA 370hp car? I'm quaking.
Porsche Turbo, Turbo S, whatever, it has half the power of my daily driveable Supra, end of story.
Don't be upset because that $160,000 can't buy you a W against our cars.
And um... I dunno if you noticed my sig, but I also have an M5, so I'm not exactly a rice rocket flag waver, I just like to see the look on Lamborghini/Porsche/Ferrari/Pagani Zonda owners when they get destroyed by a toyota.
The speed debate is over man, both your cars COMBINED barely make the power my "****box" rice rocket makes every time I start it up, on 92 octane exxon.
And another thing, will either of your cars ever APPRECIATE over the years??? My Supra is worth more now than it was on the dealer's lot. RSP's still go for over 45k BONE STOCK.
Porsche Turbo, Turbo S, whatever, it has half the power of my daily driveable Supra, end of story.
Don't be upset because that $160,000 can't buy you a W against our cars.
And um... I dunno if you noticed my sig, but I also have an M5, so I'm not exactly a rice rocket flag waver, I just like to see the look on Lamborghini/Porsche/Ferrari/Pagani Zonda owners when they get destroyed by a toyota.
The speed debate is over man, both your cars COMBINED barely make the power my "****box" rice rocket makes every time I start it up, on 92 octane exxon.
And another thing, will either of your cars ever APPRECIATE over the years??? My Supra is worth more now than it was on the dealer's lot. RSP's still go for over 45k BONE STOCK.
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OK, I will concede that the Porsche is not a drag racer (and your 1000 HP Supra can kick my butt in a drag race), if you will agree that my Ceramic Composite Brakes (all $10,000 worth) and rotors are way too awesome and can brake ribs if not careful. ( see for your self at http://www.kpmgllc.com/pccb.html ) And that my AWD 600HP twin turbo is a good track car wet or dry, but not made for drag racing, 0-60 or ¼ mile runs.
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nice RX-7..... I had one for about 5 years before selling it for a Viper.... an RX-7 with 400 rwhp will take down a new Porsche twin-turbo....
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I only had 362 rwhp....
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda-RX-7-Timeslip-19.html
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I only had 362 rwhp....
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda-RX-7-Timeslip-19.html
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Originally Posted by Fikse
nice RX-7..... I had one for about 5 years before selling it for a Viper.... an RX-7 with 400 rwhp will take down a new Porsche twin-turbo....
![](http://viper.dragtimes.com/pictures/gallery/rx7launch.jpg)
I only had 362 rwhp....
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda-RX-7-Timeslip-19.html
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I only had 362 rwhp....
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda-RX-7-Timeslip-19.html
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