Pulled a new 911 Turbo, curious which version?
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
Attempting to have a discussion with you is utterly pointless. Every time I rebut your arguments, you jump ship to a non-sequitur.
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I point out 15 years of direct competition between the RX-7 and the 911 and that is "limited". I posted directed magazine shootouts with the RX-7 and the 911 turbo and you are silent. I also posted Mazda won Lemans overall but that didn't matter either.
You then go on to Audi and Porsche and their agreements and all sorts of other irrelevant bs.
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Porsche will compete for overall wins in ALMS as they develop the RS Spyder, which competes in LMP2. Already it has produced some great results even against the much more powerful LMP1 cars like the Dyson and Audi R8. When they will return to LMP1 remains to be seen, but there is talk that they will.
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Where is Mazda nowadays anyway?
Right here.
http://www.starmazda.com/
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Seems like you keep having to dig in the past to support them.
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You are clearly delusional to think Mazda has more racing heritage than Porsche.
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You are even worse than I thought if you think Mazda makes better cars..
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If that were the case, I and many others would have bought more than a half-dozen RX-7's for the price of a GT2.
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Enjoy your almighty RX-7. Then one day, when you actually have seat time in a CGT/GT1/GT2/GT3, then maybe we can have a productive discussion. It is obvious you haven't really driven any of the above-referenced cars..
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Also, I have a GT2, not a Turbo. I have owned both, and the Turbo is hardly a track car compared to the GT2.
http://www.porsches.8m.net/996gt2.htm
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But, please show me an RX-7 that has lapped the Ring faster than a GT2. You won't, because there isn't one.
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As for the 1400hp one, go to 6SpeedOnline and do some research on VRAlexander, his car was built by Protomotive, same people who built my old 996 Turbo.
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P.S.-- Our E55's are hardly German vehicles, they are more like modified Chryslers. Porsches are much better performance cars, period. But I've already had that extensive debate once..
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I'm tired of bench racing. Time to go to another track day... Just face it, you clearly get what you pay for.
It's time for me to strap on an F-18 and hit the flight deck.
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
The Supra is a great car that was way ahead of its time, but please don't compare the handling and braking of a Supra to my GT2, all of the Supra guys I know say that also. If you mod the Supra to handle and brake better on a track than a GT2, then what you have is pretty much a race track only, non streetable car.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...2547df3298.htm
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1400 hp? Got a link?
Also read the links I posted. The RX-7 BEAT the Porsche 911 turbo around the race track.
1400 hp? Got a link?
Also read the links I posted. The RX-7 BEAT the Porsche 911 turbo around the race track.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/protomotive/0.htm
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Again ... its amazing what protomotive has done with some porsche ... does it matter for this thread? Should we bring up the SLK55 with an SLR motor that whipped an Enzo?
This is AGAIN a kill story against 1 porsche. That 1 porsche does not represent all porsches. Are there porsches that will beat a blown SLK? Of course! Are the porsches that are going to lose to a blown SLK ... definitely.
Move on ...
This is AGAIN a kill story against 1 porsche. That 1 porsche does not represent all porsches. Are there porsches that will beat a blown SLK? Of course! Are the porsches that are going to lose to a blown SLK ... definitely.
Move on ...
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
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Originally Posted by vincentGT2
Here's just a little taste of VRAlexander's Protomotive 996TT (including one against a 10s LS1 NOS RX-7)
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/protomotive/0.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/protomotive/0.htm
Second that was hardly a 1400 hp Porsche.
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I keep asking for a link for proof of 1400 hp and no one seems to have one. Why is that?
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Those are local cars here. The RX-7 is a drop in LS1 with some headwork etc. Nobody ever saw a 143 timeslip either. The guy was guessing at his hp with NOS. The car is a hybrid.
Second that was hardly a 1400 hp Porsche.
I keep asking for a link for proof of 1400 hp and no one seems to have one. Why is that?
Second that was hardly a 1400 hp Porsche.
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I keep asking for a link for proof of 1400 hp and no one seems to have one. Why is that?
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HP on Alex's Porsche depends on how much boost it is set to run. That race wasn't even at full boost... the boost controller was set to either 1.2 or 1.3 bar, if I am not mistaken. The engine is built to run up to 2.0bars...
VincentGT2, I guess my biggest mistake is trying to argue with these guys. They will never understand our cars since it's so far out of their league in many ways. Seeing is believing... I guess I never understood until I owned my first Porsche Turbo.
It's funny that the Mazda guy tries to belittle me, saying that I don't know the difference between my GT2 and a Turbo, because the GT2 is a Turbo. Then he doubts I even own a GT2. Obviously he doesn't really know the difference between Porsche models yet he wants to continue to argue with me. What do you say to this type of ignorance?
I guess college would have been a good thing for some people after military service.
VincentGT2, I guess my biggest mistake is trying to argue with these guys. They will never understand our cars since it's so far out of their league in many ways. Seeing is believing... I guess I never understood until I owned my first Porsche Turbo.
It's funny that the Mazda guy tries to belittle me, saying that I don't know the difference between my GT2 and a Turbo, because the GT2 is a Turbo. Then he doubts I even own a GT2. Obviously he doesn't really know the difference between Porsche models yet he wants to continue to argue with me. What do you say to this type of ignorance?
I guess college would have been a good thing for some people after military service.
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Then he tells me that I have a NA S600 and not the twin turbo. Now he is trying to discredit my claim of 600HP, 100 more than stock.
I almost bought the GT2 instead of the 05 Turbo S. I will get the 997TT S when it comes out in 2008 or 2009. I only have 1,640 miles on my Porsche since November of 2005.
I almost bought the GT2 instead of the 05 Turbo S. I will get the 997TT S when it comes out in 2008 or 2009. I only have 1,640 miles on my Porsche since November of 2005.
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Below are a few tuners that I know who specialize in 1000+HP Porsche. Also I attached a link to a duscussion about maxing out the HP in a 3.6 ltr Porsche.
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=140174
www.Ultimatemotorwerks.com
Kevin@Ultimatemotorwerks.com
www.sharkwerks.com
sharky@sharkwerks.com
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=140174
www.Ultimatemotorwerks.com
Kevin@Ultimatemotorwerks.com
www.sharkwerks.com
sharky@sharkwerks.com
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Amazing
Btw I was the one doubting the twinturbo S600 ... not yellow R1. I also apologized since I made an assumption due to the exhaust pipes of your S600 in the pictures. But to be honest ... I still wouldn't bother racing that S600. No point ... you'd lose.
I guess porsche is the best ... blah blah blah ... Ferrari, Bugatti, Lambo, Saleen, etc, all cant compare ... Porsche with thier Flat 6 is the only one that can modify to extremes. And ... even if others do modify to extremes ... nothing can beat a porsche. BLAH BLAH BLAH ...
Amazing the arrogance or some porsche owners. I guess there are people like this for all brands.
I guess porsche is the best ... blah blah blah ... Ferrari, Bugatti, Lambo, Saleen, etc, all cant compare ... Porsche with thier Flat 6 is the only one that can modify to extremes. And ... even if others do modify to extremes ... nothing can beat a porsche. BLAH BLAH BLAH ...
Amazing the arrogance or some porsche owners. I guess there are people like this for all brands.
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
HP on Alex's Porsche depends on how much boost it is set to run. That race wasn't even at full boost... the boost controller was set to either 1.2 or 1.3 bar, if I am not mistaken. The engine is built to run up to 2.0bars...
Originally Posted by Hamann7
VincentGT2, I guess my biggest mistake is trying to argue with these guys.
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They will never understand our cars since it's so far out of their league in many ways.
I am a director at one of the largest semiconductor firms in the world. I could fart the cash for your 911 turbo in stock options alone.
I have driven plenty of Porsches including 911 turbos so save it.
What is comical is you think a 500 hp car is in "another league". You have no idea what another league is. I'll put your 6 cylinder ****box in perspective. Try 32,000 lbs of afterburning turbofan.
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Seeing is believing...
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I guess I never understood until I owned my first Porsche Turbo.
Originally Posted by Hamann7
It's funny that the Mazda guy tries to belittle me, saying that I don't know the difference between my GT2 and a Turbo, because the GT2 is a Turbo. Then he doubts I even own a GT2. Obviously he doesn't really know the difference between Porsche models yet he wants to continue to argue with me. What do you say to this type of ignorance?
You stated:
"Also, I have a GT2, not a Turbo". The GT2 is a 911 turbo variant, period.
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I guess college would have been a good thing for some people after military service.
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Originally Posted by Hamann7
HP on Alex's Porsche depends on how much boost it is set to run. That race wasn't even at full boost... the boost controller was set to either 1.2 or 1.3 bar, if I am not mistaken. The engine is built to run up to 2.0bars...
VincentGT2, I guess my biggest mistake is trying to argue with these guys. They will never understand our cars since it's so far out of their league in many ways. Seeing is believing... I guess I never understood until I owned my first Porsche Turbo.
It's funny that the Mazda guy tries to belittle me, saying that I don't know the difference between my GT2 and a Turbo, because the GT2 is a Turbo. Then he doubts I even own a GT2. Obviously he doesn't really know the difference between Porsche models yet he wants to continue to argue with me. What do you say to this type of ignorance?
I guess college would have been a good thing for some people after military service.
VincentGT2, I guess my biggest mistake is trying to argue with these guys. They will never understand our cars since it's so far out of their league in many ways. Seeing is believing... I guess I never understood until I owned my first Porsche Turbo.
It's funny that the Mazda guy tries to belittle me, saying that I don't know the difference between my GT2 and a Turbo, because the GT2 is a Turbo. Then he doubts I even own a GT2. Obviously he doesn't really know the difference between Porsche models yet he wants to continue to argue with me. What do you say to this type of ignorance?
I guess college would have been a good thing for some people after military service.
Who said teaching Porsche 101 on here was an easy task.
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
Very cool video!! Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the Supra, I'm thinking about buying a Woon tuned car. I'm just saying that they weren't built to handle like a GT2. The track in the video looked like a very non-technical track with a lot of straights, one that's tailor made for high HP cars. The Supra seemed to have some issues with traction in some of the turns, I heard a lot of tire schreeching, or borderline drifting (not the fastest way to get through a turn).
The only two daily drivers that I have seen that are faster than my GT2 on a regular basis are the single turbo Supras and the twin turbo Vipers. I have the utmost respect for all high performance cars
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Below are a few tuners that I know who specialize in 1000+HP Porsche. Also I attached a link to a duscussion about maxing out the HP in a 3.6 ltr Porsche.
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Maybe next week you can make 2600 hp?
"Evolution MotorSports has officially recorded the quickest 1/4 mile time for a 996TT at 10.37 @ 139.68 MPH. The original 996TT 1/4 mile record was set by our friend and Northern California dealer Alex "Sharky" Ross of Sharkwerks. He still holds the record of the quickest known 996TT Tiptronic at 10.6 @ 135 MPH. Both cars are fitted with Evolution MotorSports GT800 Tuning System with unrivaled software written by our good friend and performance partner Garrett Lim of GIAC. Our EVO GT800 is currently producing about 760 RWHP with straight pipes / race fuel and will be running in the 9 second range very shortly. This car has only been to the drag strip twice in 2 years."
Here is street driven RX-7 with slicks, rollbar and race gas.
![](http://www.jigsawrx7.com/images/Englishtown_5-7-06_30_.jpg)
In the driveway.
The car runs 9.78 @ 143
That is a two rotor small engine, want to talk about triple rotor ?
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Gee how did I know it wasn't 1400 hp?
Maybe next week you can make 2600 hp?
Just for you and the rest of bs'ers here.
""Evolution MotorSports has officially recorded the quickest 1/4 mile time for a 996TT at 10.37 @ 139.68 MPH. The original 996TT 1/4 mile record was set by our friend and Northern California dealer Alex "Sharky" Ross of Sharkwerks. He still holds the record of the quickest known 996TT Tiptronic at 10.6 @ 135 MPH. Both cars are fitted with Evolution MotorSports GT800 Tuning System with unrivaled software written by our good friend and performance partner Garrett Lim of GIAC. Our EVO GT800 is currently producing about 760 RWHP with straight pipes / race fuel and will be running in the 9 second range very shortly. This car has only been to the drag strip twice in 2 years."
Here is street driven RX-7 with slicks, rollbar and race gas.
The car runs 9.78 @ 143
That is a two rotor small engine, want to talk about triple rotor ?
Just for some basis here is a dyno of a 2002 911 turbo.
http://www.ktrperformance.com/dyno_t....php?id_num=47
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Just for you and the rest of bs'ers here.
""Evolution MotorSports has officially recorded the quickest 1/4 mile time for a 996TT at 10.37 @ 139.68 MPH. The original 996TT 1/4 mile record was set by our friend and Northern California dealer Alex "Sharky" Ross of Sharkwerks. He still holds the record of the quickest known 996TT Tiptronic at 10.6 @ 135 MPH. Both cars are fitted with Evolution MotorSports GT800 Tuning System with unrivaled software written by our good friend and performance partner Garrett Lim of GIAC. Our EVO GT800 is currently producing about 760 RWHP with straight pipes / race fuel and will be running in the 9 second range very shortly. This car has only been to the drag strip twice in 2 years."
Here is street driven RX-7 with slicks, rollbar and race gas.
The car runs 9.78 @ 143
That is a two rotor small engine, want to talk about triple rotor ?
Just for some basis here is a dyno of a 2002 911 turbo.
http://www.ktrperformance.com/dyno_t....php?id_num=47
The Porsche tuners haven't really been concerned with drag racing until lately, so they have come to the dance and have been left without a partner.
The Porsches are inherently track cars and lack the suspension, transmission and other vital components to be effective quartermilers. They are getting more efficient though!
I know about drag racing, as someone who holds an NHRA 7.50 license and owns a 57 Chevy that has gone 8.50. That RX7 is BAD!!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...16580380&hl=en
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
That RX7 is faster in the quarter than any 911 turbo in existence at this point, although, the EVOMS GT800 car did go 10.37 and trap at 140.
The Porsche tuners haven't really been concerned with drag racing until lately, so they have come to the dance and have been left without a partner.
The Porsches are inherently track cars and lack the suspension, transmission and other vital components to be effective quartermilers. They are getting more efficient though!
I know about drag racing, as someone who holds an NHRA 7.50 license and owns a 57 Chevy that has gone 8.50. That RX7 is BAD!!!
![](http://www.scottsdaleexoticcarclub.com/images/IMG_1790-copy.jpg)
The Porsche tuners haven't really been concerned with drag racing until lately, so they have come to the dance and have been left without a partner.
The Porsches are inherently track cars and lack the suspension, transmission and other vital components to be effective quartermilers. They are getting more efficient though!
I know about drag racing, as someone who holds an NHRA 7.50 license and owns a 57 Chevy that has gone 8.50. That RX7 is BAD!!!
![](http://www.scottsdaleexoticcarclub.com/images/IMG_1790-copy.jpg)
There are plenty of 9 second RX-7's on street. One guy in Texas ran a 9.62 way back in 2001.
There are actually 6 second RX-7's. Abel Ibara ran a 6.95 @ 200 plus.
I love the blown 57.
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Alas, everything to be said has been said. You can go back to reading your Sport Compact Car archives.
The education thing was brought up because of your apparent lack of comprehension. I guess your primo education from FSU is just too far over my head, what can I say?
The education thing was brought up because of your apparent lack of comprehension. I guess your primo education from FSU is just too far over my head, what can I say?
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Look, you with the **** yellow RX-7, I did not claim that Poesche has 1400HP cars. I gave you a link that showed you fast 911's doin 10 second runs with 800HP. At the end of the day, you drive a MAZDA.
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Alas, everything to be said has been said. You can go back to reading your Sport Compact Car archives.
Originally Posted by Hamann7
The education thing was brought up because of your apparent lack of comprehension. I guess your primo education from FSU is just too far over my head, what can I say?
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Look, you with the **** yellow RX-7.
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I did not claim that Poesche has 1400HP cars. I gave you a link that showed you fast 911's doin 10 second runs with 800HP.
Originally Posted by 1phd1jd
At the end of the day, you drive a MAZDA.
BTW: I like your Toyota minivan in the garage...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....6&postcount=37
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