The Battle Of The 6 Banger Family Sedans
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The Battle Of The 6 Banger Family Sedans
I had some fun with a new Nissan Maxima SE V6 on my way home tonight and was surprised how underpowered it was from a roll, since they usually run mid 14's@mid 90's. We didn't get a chance to line up, but were playing cat and mouse through traffic.
At one point when I was following behind him, we both nailed it from 30 (I was holding 2nd gear), ESP blinked a few times as usual and I proceeded to walk right up his bumper. I let go at about 50, waited a couple seconds and nailed it after him again and by about 80 I was literally just a couple feet off his bumper again. I was surprised since I was expecting the Maxima to be faster than that.
It sounded like an auto, and I think the only mod it had was a cold air intake. Aren't the new Maximas supposed to be fast?
Long live the E's hamsters
At one point when I was following behind him, we both nailed it from 30 (I was holding 2nd gear), ESP blinked a few times as usual and I proceeded to walk right up his bumper. I let go at about 50, waited a couple seconds and nailed it after him again and by about 80 I was literally just a couple feet off his bumper again. I was surprised since I was expecting the Maxima to be faster than that.
It sounded like an auto, and I think the only mod it had was a cold air intake. Aren't the new Maximas supposed to be fast?
Long live the E's hamsters
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I had some fun with a new Nissan Maxima SE V6 on my way home tonight and was surprised how underpowered it was from a roll, since they usually run mid 14's@mid 90's. We didn't get a chance to line up, but were playing cat and mouse through traffic.
At one point when I was following behind him, we both nailed it from 30 (I was holding 2nd gear), ESP blinked a few times as usual and I proceeded to walk right up his bumper. I let go at about 50, waited a couple seconds and nailed it after him again and by about 80 I was literally just a couple feet off his bumper again. I was surprised since I was expecting the Maxima to be faster than that.
It sounded like an auto, and I think the only mod it had was a cold air intake. Aren't the new Maximas supposed to be fast?
Long live the E's hamsters
At one point when I was following behind him, we both nailed it from 30 (I was holding 2nd gear), ESP blinked a few times as usual and I proceeded to walk right up his bumper. I let go at about 50, waited a couple seconds and nailed it after him again and by about 80 I was literally just a couple feet off his bumper again. I was surprised since I was expecting the Maxima to be faster than that.
It sounded like an auto, and I think the only mod it had was a cold air intake. Aren't the new Maximas supposed to be fast?
Long live the E's hamsters
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Doh...v6 you say?//Im just used to being around those AMG bullies and even SRT8's....Im ususally outgunned with my peashooter lol....Good kill op...really surprised at the outcome given the new info....On paper the Maxima should run away...It has more power and is lighter....
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Those VQ's are great motors but I've raced G35's and 3.5SE Maximas which are suppose to be as quick as my car & I beat both of them. But I'm not surprised to hear an E350 pulling on a 3.5 Max. I've driven both cars and the E350 is mos def faster.
But I'm not surprised to hear an E350 pulling on a 3.5 Max. I've driven both cars and the E350 is mos def faster.
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E350 has a lot flatter torque curve than Maxima.
E350: 268hp@6K; 258tq@2.4K-5K
Maxima: 265hp@5.8K; 255tq@4.4K-5.5K (I think)
Plus E350 is 7-sp vs. Maxima 5-sp.
The only advantage to Maxima is lighter... but still, if you run from a roll, you are likely to be in your power band, while Maxima is not. So yes, a kill is very possible.
Maxima may be able to take the most advantage of its torque curve w/ its new CVT. Haven't tried it though...
E350: 268hp@6K; 258tq@2.4K-5K
Maxima: 265hp@5.8K; 255tq@4.4K-5.5K (I think)
Plus E350 is 7-sp vs. Maxima 5-sp.
The only advantage to Maxima is lighter... but still, if you run from a roll, you are likely to be in your power band, while Maxima is not. So yes, a kill is very possible.
Maxima may be able to take the most advantage of its torque curve w/ its new CVT. Haven't tried it though...
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Has anyone run the E350 at the drag strip? I raced my buddies A6 the other day after he came back from the strip, he said he was running low 16's and from rolling 10-80 MPH I only put the front of his car on my back bumper and it was a slow walk. If I have time this friday we might hit up the the track together. (but I must note that I left ESP on and that really killed my start and he is awd so has no traction issues).
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What does your question have anything to do w/ E350?
You're lining up against A6, not E350.... not sure about real world numbers, but I think E350 is mid-14's car.
You're lining up against A6, not E350.... not sure about real world numbers, but I think E350 is mid-14's car.
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I raced my buddies A6 which he just came back from the track 4 hours prior and said he was running low 16's and I only put him on my bumper from a 10-80 mph race.(In the E350), I just wanted to know if anyone ran the E350 at the drag strip my guess is its a 15 second car...
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Sorry... my bad Thought you drove your 328.
I think E350 is faster than 15-sec car. My 4th gen maxima (196hp/225tq) is a mid-15's car. E350 is comparable to 6th gen maxima, which OP killed.
Thought you drove your 328.I think E350 is faster than 15-sec car. My 4th gen maxima (196hp/225tq) is a mid-15's car. E350 is comparable to 6th gen maxima, which OP killed.
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He has the turbo. He says it makes about 260hp and that I am dead when he gets the chip that will change the 4psi factory to 16psi adding 60-80 HP.
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The A6 Quattro isn't all that fast, since that's also a heavy car to begin with as well.
A few months back while driving yet another mid-14's car, I raced a chipped turbo A6 Quattro wagon (I think it was an auto as well) and took him by a clean 3 car lengths from 0-110.
Edit: I should add that the A6 launched off idle though.
A few months back while driving yet another mid-14's car, I raced a chipped turbo A6 Quattro wagon (I think it was an auto as well) and took him by a clean 3 car lengths from 0-110.
Edit: I should add that the A6 launched off idle though.
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Is that your 540I you are talking about???I love those body styles....I actually was looking for a black one when I bought my Z[long story]...Yeah Ive ran a few 540I in that shape and its a fight no question...Cars were ahead of there time...Very fast...About the same as a Z....I shut down at around 130mph vs one of them and I was at his drivers door....I do have heavy azz 20" rims and I think I might have edged him out had I have the stocker on...But just goes to show that a 10 year old BMW is still formidable vs some of todays lesser sportscars....
I've driven 3.5SE Maximas and while they are quick the OP's story about having little problem keeping up w/ one sounds about right to me. IMO MB powertrains are known to be very efficient. It's the type of thing that would only show up on a dyno sheet since the factory ratings are so similar.
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The V6 2.7T (twin-turbo) puts out 250hp/258tq stock and with a chip, puts you over 300hp/tq. Stock 0-60 is mid 6. It'll be a sleeper after he chips it. Does he have the 5-speed auto or 6-speed manual A6?
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the a6 is more than a 16 second car
i have an a4 and i know it is at last a mid 15 second car
the a4 as stated is a bi-turbo 2.7, which is the same motor as the s4 has, only the a6 is heavier, and an s4 is not slow
now depending on driver/tranny/altitude, the a6 should of easily been in the 14's high 13's
so the 350 should of lost to the a6, also if he is launching from idle then that tells me he has no clue how to drive a turbo car, cause you need to get boost up
an a6 should be boosting more than 6 psi, and a tunned car will boost more than 14 psi, unless the guy has a leak somewhere, which is common
tell him to get his car checked out, if he has a boost guage and is racing to spool up his turbo, say 3500 rpm launch then you 2 race, at the track
and everyone keeps saying that the guy with maxima beat the maxima, the guy with the maxima lost to a 350, i think that is what he was racing
i have an a4 and i know it is at last a mid 15 second car
the a4 as stated is a bi-turbo 2.7, which is the same motor as the s4 has, only the a6 is heavier, and an s4 is not slow
now depending on driver/tranny/altitude, the a6 should of easily been in the 14's high 13's
so the 350 should of lost to the a6, also if he is launching from idle then that tells me he has no clue how to drive a turbo car, cause you need to get boost up
an a6 should be boosting more than 6 psi, and a tunned car will boost more than 14 psi, unless the guy has a leak somewhere, which is common
tell him to get his car checked out, if he has a boost guage and is racing to spool up his turbo, say 3500 rpm launch then you 2 race, at the track
and everyone keeps saying that the guy with maxima beat the maxima, the guy with the maxima lost to a 350, i think that is what he was racing
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I just raced a new Maxima earlier tonight. From a stop he didnt have a chance with my C36 I6 268hp. By 80 he was like couple cars back. The lowend trq got him good!
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the a6 is more than a 16 second car
i have an a4 and i know it is at last a mid 15 second car
the a4 as stated is a bi-turbo 2.7, which is the same motor as the s4 has, only the a6 is heavier, and an s4 is not slow
now depending on driver/tranny/altitude, the a6 should of easily been in the 14's high 13's
so the 350 should of lost to the a6, also if he is launching from idle then that tells me he has no clue how to drive a turbo car, cause you need to get boost up
an a6 should be boosting more than 6 psi, and a tunned car will boost more than 14 psi, unless the guy has a leak somewhere, which is common
tell him to get his car checked out, if he has a boost guage and is racing to spool up his turbo, say 3500 rpm launch then you 2 race, at the track
and everyone keeps saying that the guy with maxima beat the maxima, the guy with the maxima lost to a 350, i think that is what he was racing
i have an a4 and i know it is at last a mid 15 second car
the a4 as stated is a bi-turbo 2.7, which is the same motor as the s4 has, only the a6 is heavier, and an s4 is not slow
now depending on driver/tranny/altitude, the a6 should of easily been in the 14's high 13's
so the 350 should of lost to the a6, also if he is launching from idle then that tells me he has no clue how to drive a turbo car, cause you need to get boost up
an a6 should be boosting more than 6 psi, and a tunned car will boost more than 14 psi, unless the guy has a leak somewhere, which is common
tell him to get his car checked out, if he has a boost guage and is racing to spool up his turbo, say 3500 rpm launch then you 2 race, at the track
and everyone keeps saying that the guy with maxima beat the maxima, the guy with the maxima lost to a 350, i think that is what he was racing
Anyways a while back Eric (E1000) and I went to the strip. My best run was a 15.03 @ 93.3 mph but of course that was because of ESP being stupid along with not getting traction off the start. Car and Driver says it should run a 14.6 @96 mph. Plus I had more than 1/2 a tank of gas.
