Improviz

Lol....poser? Oh, yeah, poor me....dream on...I bought it new for $72K, about double what yours cost. But yes, obviously, I see your point: I bought a new $72K AMG back in '01, when I could've simply waited a few years and gotten a "real" car for $30K.

Wow, you're smart.

ls2 goat

Go read the first post again champ. Based on the OP's description the GTO in question was modified. Guess they forgot reading comprehension and deduction at the MB "how to be a pompous *** class" huh??

StormSigma

Man, that's gotta be annoying, eh? High school kids with a part time job flipping burgers are driving around in the same car you have. Rough.

The best part about the GTO is that no one will mistake our cars for a cheaper V6 or base model. You can't say the same. I've seen the rims you have on pretty much every iteration of that car.

Anyway, please carry on with your attempts at looking down on us pathetic mullet GTO owners from your lofty $14,000 steed. Clearly we are in the presence of automotive greatness.

Improviz

Yawn....point is, I bought it new, and it cost double what your Cavalier cost. All cars depreciate. When I find something I want, I'll get it.

But for the $72K I spent, I could've bought two of your Cavaliers, *or* gotten me a nice Z06 if speed were my only concern.

What's your excuse? Why a Goat and no vette? Just like ugly cars, yes?

Improviz

And maybe when you grow up you can afford a new one.

StormSigma

What? Point is what? Actually MY point stands. You're a big mouth who drives a relatively slow old cheap AMG car. You're no better than the guys who just bought a 1991 S-Class and then go around bragging about how they have a Mercedes so clearly they're a cut above the rest. Period. End of story. You can talk all you want about how much you paid for it as though it makes you special. It doesn't. It makes you insecure.

I'll be honest, as much as you think our cars are ugly, they are much better looking than your slabsided boat, and that's that. Why no Vette?

Vettes don't have four seats.

Hey? Why no brand new SL65?

H.Goring

jworl

You had me rolling. People outside of my office could hear me laughing.

Improviz

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test

H.Goring

I wouldn't list my assets, for that is classless, and I'm sure most M-B owners have way too much self respect to post a list like you. I'll say I traded a vette for the GTO as I needed a biger car, and I never had a mullet.

Improviz

Sure you could. Which is why you bought a Cavalier instead of a C6...right?

Well, $30K cars w/nitrous don't impress me either, particularly when they look like Cavaliers.

Neither are Rolexes or Patek Phillipes.....but some folks like them, and, unlike cars, they appreciate.....

I did. Running your modded POS against a stock AMG proves nothing. And so far you've said nothing to counter this.

But if you want to engage in a pure debate, engage: what relevance does how fast your car is have to the topic of this thread? I maintain that you chimed in only because your fragile ego was threatened by your beloved Mulletmobile going down to an AMG.

I'll anxiously await your answer.

Chappy

What is it about your bruised ego that constantly has you internet fighting??

http://www.automobileforum.com/forum...=56138&st=240&

Spyral

Actually, Improviz, anyone who knows me can tell you, I can easily walk into a Chevy dealer and buy a C6 Z06, brand new, with cash. Not an issue. I like the GTO for reasons beyond what it cost. Unfortunately, you are hung up on cost. Too bad, there is a lot more to life than what you have in the bank.

Improviz

No, you're (as usual) not getting the point. So, let me spell it out: you act as though we're supposed to be impressed with your $30K car, with what, $10K or so (give or take) in performance mods...but that puts you well shy of what mine cost.

Ergo, for far, far less than I spent on my car (or my wife's), I could easily replicate what you've got. For a bit more, I could surpass it and still be far shy of the cost of mine.

Or, I could get a Z06.

So why should I be impressed, exactly? There were tuned Honda Civics out there running 10's when I got my car, and yet I skipped them as well.

So, I again ask: why is it the performance of your modded Goat should impress me, when I could easily do it myself?

And how is the fact that you drive a (presumably) very fast, very heavily modified car relevant to the fact that the OP beat a lightly modded GTO?

Chappy

Cause we're spending our money on GI Joes!!



"It's funny to think back on now, but I spent most of my twenties being somewhat sensitive, not quite ashamed but not really shameless, to the fact that I was an adult who spent large amounts of money on things that were meant for children. But as time went on, I came to realize that it doesn't really matter what other people think about what I do with my money. I think the change came for me about four years ago, when I was twenty seven. I was asking a coworker what he was doing that weekend. He told me he was going to spend his weekend driving around to various cigar shops because he collected those little paper bands that cigars come with. Something that was really meaningless to me, but the guy was passionate about it. Really no different than me at all. Other people I met or knew collected toy cars, or shot glasses, or band teeshirts, or old Ataris, or celebrity signatures, or whatever. Toys really aren't any different. We all have our shelf where we proudly display the spoils of our hunts, our won auctions, our prized rare whatsit.

Hello, I'm an adult who collects toys."

Linky:

http://stormsigma.livejournal.com/

Bro, you are disturbed!

GTO = Ghey Toy Obsession!

Spyral

First, I never asked you to be impressed with my car. I do not seek validation from others, as you seem to do so often in this thread.

Second, I never said my car could not be replicated, with enough cash.

Third, the level of modiufication my car has is not entirely relevant to this topic, I admit that. However, I offered to run ANY AMG, modded ones are included in the ANY qualifier.

I understand you are defensive about your brand of choice, as are we, the GTO owners. However, your constant attempts to deride our enthusiasm is disheartening. You rumble along like some internet hate machine, your logic is based solely on your perception of wealth, or how you want us to perceive your wealth. How many board members here have met you or seen your car in action? Do you actually own one? Hundreds of members of the GTO community have met me and seen my car in action. I have a hard time believing that you could be this bad in person. I am sure your car is amazing, it should be for the price, however, you should realize not everyone is a MBZ fan. While I will never outright say your car is a POS (as you have about a hundred times in this thread) I will simply say it is not my choice. I will take the high road here, because Brad seems like a very decent person and most other members I have seen here seem the same. You, however, are a troubled person who has a serious lack of self esteem. Your misplaced values are evident by your inability to even be civil when you feel threatened by what you consider a "lesser" vehicle. I wish you luck, Improviz, for although you claim financial stability, I would venture a guess that is the only arena you could make that claim in.

jworl

so it's come to this? You can no longer argue points about the vehicles at hand, so you sink to looking up his live journal and attacking his hobby?

Improviz

Which is, of course, why you are here.

Fair enough, but you do hopefully realize that your posting here begs that question....

OK, so we're in agreement; it is irrelavent.

Thank you.

Nope. I viewed your showing up here and offering an race as trolling, irrelavent, and not germaine to the topic of the thread, and so I simply posed the question it begged, namely, why should we care about what a heavily modded car can do against a stocker?

Actually, I only addressed that when you and others began implying that since I haven't gotten *myself* a new Mercedes (unbeknownst to you, I had gotten the wifey one, but hey, unlike some folks, I don't put all of my cars in my sig, only the one I'm here to post about) since '01, I am a "poser" and a "wannabe" who can't afford a new one.

Which was, frankly, based upon a total misunderstanding of my original point, and ticked me off in the process. So sure, in repsonse to that, I simply stated that, from a financial standpoint, I'm doin' allright. And I worked hard for it, worked/borrowed my way through school, so please spare me the silver spoon crud....

Many. I have vids of my car in action at youtube, from last summer.

Yes.

Fine, fine...well, see the gto forum thread and see some of the comments there directed at us before you start throwing too many stones in the glass house, eh?

And here goes the armchair Psychology routine again:

No, I just consider the cheap shots taken at Benz owners, both here and in the GTO forum flamebait thread that led you and the others here, to be deserving of a bit of rhetorical payback. Can't have all of the smack talking on one side of the fence..

And again, my original point wasn't "hey, wow, look at my money", but rather a simple observation that any of us could, were we so inclined, get and mod a Goat to those high horsepower levels, and therefore aren't really going to have our socks knocked off as we would if you showed up in, say, an Enzo...although that, too, would be irrelavent to this thread. As would one of us in a heavily modded AMG showing up at the Ferrari forum bragging about how we could take an Enzo at the drags....which would, I'm certain, generate the same sort of responses there.

TAGURIT

Mercedes are a dime a dozen. They all look about the same. I have the money to buy any car that I want yet do not want the label associated with and overpriced German car. Sure they have great engineering and handle well. I bought my GTO because I wanted decent performance with better than average interior while not looking like a stuck up rich Liberal.

Anyways yall have fun with your cars as we GTO owners (close knit group) will continue to enjoy ours.

I know I am no where near stock but I would love to run anyone anytime. And guess what I don't care if I lost!

Improviz

Hmm, if you've got the money to buy any car you want, wouldn't that make you rich??

Improviz

Whoa, waitaminute....is this for real, or is he cribbing from "The 40 Year Old Virgin"??

Spyral

Well, Improviz, you and I will just have to agree that we are both enthusiasts and as such will do our own thing. Fair enough. I would like to point out, however, that I have not downed the AMG or MBZ cars here or elsewhere. I had a very enjoyable summer in a 79 450 SL (women love the vert at the beach when you live on the East End of Long Island) and actually like some MB vehicles. See, I can admit that. I like CARS, not just one brand.

Have yourself a great day.

HLG600

Herein lies your problem, since you allow stereotypical presumption to deter your enjoyment of a car. This nonsense spawned when GTO owners with an agenda entered this thread challenging stock AMG's to run their heavily modified goats...and it was all downhill from there. As my earlier posts indicate, I am not a GTO basher, but you guys were the instigators here. This bullsht became redundant a few pages ago.

Improviz

Maybe, but you did take a cheap shot via the wife analogy....which didn't really bother me, given that it's about as far off the mark as one could get, but it was a cheap shot nevertheless.

OK, fair enough, and same here...I actually was honestly looking forward to the Goat (lifelong fan of the original, along with many other muscle cars from that era!), but (sorry, but hey, it's subjective!) was disappointed by the looks of it. There are other American cars I like (CTS, Chrysler 300, Charger), btw, so I am NOT coming at this from a bias against 'em.

And yeah, OK, I shouldn't have hopped down in the mud, but those comments on the GTO forum were pretty rude, and I knew some of 'em were reading.

Anyway, enjoy the car.

Likewise.

StormSigma

About as disturbed as people who have cheap used Mercedes Benz's and think that puts them in some stratmospheric elite. Wow, you found my personal page. Well done.

By the way, I see you ALSO have a cheap used Benz. Awesome choice.