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Old 05-25-2010, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
I guess when I post how I beat a C5Z about 6 times from a dig and mutiple rolls, you won't bring up how it should have walked me provided it was properly driven.
a 111mph trap pig beating a well driven C5Z06 is

Originally Posted by bud4ya
I think 0-60 on a 2008 CBR 1000rr is around mid 2 sec range and a C5 Z06 is around 4. That is quite a bit of difference right there by the time both drivers reach 60 MPH.

1.5 sec's is a bunch of car lengths.

Dont get me wrong the Z06's are no slouch but not liter bike material stock.
Sure from 0 even a C6Z06 is at a disadvantage, but I didn't race him in a C5Z06, and we didn't go from 0mph. Completely different circumstances.

Here is the video of our race:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xxcewbv77c

QUOTE=bud4ya;4089431]What year Z06?[/QUOTE]

Look at my sig.

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Personally I prefer races where both machines are driven to their potential. Makes it more exciting and a better comparison of performance. I understand your POV.
Saying it happened is one thing, showing us a video is another.
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I could not find 100-150 MPH times for a 08-2010 CBR 1000RR but the C6Z is 9.54 I believe.

These are the numbers I could find which shows the CBR is faster from a stop. So I am assuming the C6Z is quicker if the race is from 100-150 MPH from the vid. I understand it gets worse for a bike as the speeds increase so if the Z is quicker from the 100 + MPH roll the only way the bike could post better times from 0-150 is it makes it up say up to 100 MPH?

0-150 for CBR 100RR is 15.41

0-150 for a C6Z is 17.5

1/4 mile For the CBR is 138.6 MPH 9.88 Secs

1/4 mile for the C6Z is 127.1 @ 11.1

I would have never guessed a stock C6Z would pull a bike even from 120-150 MPH. Looks like the CBR 1K pulled from say 90 to maybe 120 then the Z passed. Again I would have never guessed that from 120-150 the Vette would pull the 1k. Nice job

Originally Posted by kindafast
a 111mph trap pig beating a well driven C5Z06 is



Sure from 0 even a C6Z06 is at a disadvantage, but I didn't race him in a C5Z06, and we didn't go from 0mph. Completely different circumstances.

Here is the video of our race:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xxcewbv77c

QUO50TE=bud4ya;4089431]What year Z06?
Look at my sig.



Saying it happened is one thing, showing us a video is another. [/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by kindafast
a 111mph trap pig beating a well driven C5Z06 is

Sure from 0 even a C6Z06 is at a disadvantage, but I didn't race him in a C5Z06, and we didn't go from 0mph. Completely different circumstances.

Here is the video of our race:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xxcewbv77c
You need to go back and read the context of the example. It wasn't well driven at all and my car is a 113/114mph car at zero/negative DA.

Looks like both bikes performed identically - what was the starting speed of the 600? The 1000 seemed pretty quiet. Yet was the 600 passed at 125? and the 1000 at over 150mph?


Originally Posted by bud4ya
I would have never guessed a stock C6Z would pull a bike even from 120-150 MPH. Looks like the CBR 1K pulled from say 90 to maybe 120 then the Z passed. Again I would have never guessed that from 120-150 the Vette would pull the 1k. Nice job
Wasn't it 150mph for the 1000? And there is no telemetry on either bike to show what rpm the shifts occurred although the 600 sounded pretty good.
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oh that is sick!!! maybe in about 10 yrs when i'm done with medical school, residency, and hopefully most of my debt, i can start saving up for one haha
You will soon enough! I had to cry myself to sleep after driving by our doctor's parking floor at work. 3 new 997 turbos, couple maseratis, buncha M's and AMG's as well.
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I am not sure what the speed was when the Vette passed? It is my understanding that the newer 1k bikes should be ahead of the vette till the 165 range and then the vette would pull after that.

I think the guy on the 1000 was not ridding it to it's fullest. If he was he should of held off the vette and been ahead till the 165 range and then the vette would take over. But with street races anything can happen.

I will see if I can get a C6Z06 to bit in the coming weeks from a high speed roll. I raced one on my 08 CBR 1k from a stop a couple weeks ago getting onto the highway and when I looked down at 140 I was many bikes lengths ahead.

If a newer 1k is ridden properly it should be able to hold off a stock C6Z from 80-to 165. Then things get much better for the vette like we see in the vid.

I am in the process of picking up a C5 Z that I will S/C so watching the C5 and C6 Z's they are no joke cars. the C6Z is amazing from vid's I have watched

Originally Posted by Deuuuce
You need to go back and read the context of the example. It wasn't well driven at all and my car is a 113/114mph car at zero/negative DA.

Looks like both bikes performed identically - what was the starting speed of the 600? The 1000 seemed pretty quiet. Yet was the 600 passed at 125? and the 1000 at over 150mph?




Wasn't it 150mph for the 1000? And there is no telemetry on either bike to show what rpm the shifts occurred although the 600 sounded pretty good.
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Originally Posted by bud4ya
I am not sure what the speed was when the Vette passed? It is my understanding that the newer 1k bikes should be ahead of the vette till the 165 range and then the vette would pull after that.

I think the guy on the 1000 was not ridding it to it's fullest. If he was he should of held off the vette and been ahead till the 165 range and then the vette would take over. But with street races anything can happen.

I will see if I can get a C6Z06 to bit in the coming weeks from a high speed roll. I raced one on my 08 CBR 1k from a stop a couple weeks ago getting onto the highway and when I looked down at 140 I was many bikes lengths ahead.

If a newer 1k is ridden properly it should be able to hold off a stock C6Z from 80-to 165. Then things get much better for the vette like we see in the vid.

I am in the process of picking up a C5 Z that I will S/C so watching the C5 and C6 Z's they are no joke cars. the C6Z is amazing from vid's I have watched
He was shifting at red line, and he is a good rider. You are gona have fun with the Vette! Good luck with the purchase!
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I wish it was the C6Z but I will research cost of parts and install for S/C.

As of now it just has intake and exhaust. The seller says he thinks it should be around 450 HP intake/exhaust as the 405 HP was underrated. I know exhaust and intake give some power but hard to believe it gives 30-40 HP. Maybe the vette engines are different than MB and BMW's. I did intake and exhaust on my E39 M5 and ya I noticed a difference but it was not 20 + HP difference.

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He was shifting at red line, and he is a good rider. You are gona have fun with the Vette! Good luck with the purchase!
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Originally Posted by bud4ya
I wish it was the C6Z but I will research cost of parts and install for S/C.

As of now it just has intake and exhaust. The seller says he thinks it should be around 450 HP intake/exhaust as the 405 HP was underrated. I know exhaust and intake give some power but hard to believe it gives 30-40 HP. Maybe the vette engines are different than MB and BMW's. I did intake and exhaust on my E39 M5 and ya I noticed a difference but it was not 20 + HP difference.
Headers give C5Z06's about 20whp from what I've read, intake gains should be minimal. Is it tuned?
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He just put the intake in and has not had it tuned. He said his mechanic has a Diablo tuner and will tune it for the intake and exhaust. He said teh car runs fine but when you jump on it, it says it needs to be tuned. He said he has not really driven the car much. He said with it tuned for the intake and exhaust that is where you will feel the difference.

Think there is any damage with no tune and the intake? I would assume it would be fine just not run as quick as it should.

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Headers give C5Z06's about 20whp from what I've read, intake gains should be minimal. Is it tuned?
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Originally Posted by bud4ya
He just put the intake in and has not had it tuned. He said his mechanic has a Diablo tuner and will tune it for the intake and exhaust. He said teh car runs fine but when you jump on it, it says it needs to be tuned. He said he has not really driven the car much. He said with it tuned for the intake and exhaust that is where you will feel the difference.

Think there is any damage with no tune and the intake? I would assume it would be fine just not run as quick as it should.
I don't think it would be damage it, but remember you are buying a race car so pay extra attention to its condition. How many miles are on it? Has it been tracked?

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