Driving on Preston a newer Lotus Espri V8 is passing everyone to haul ***. Well i pull in behind him and we get in the clear. He hit it at about 30 with me right behind and I proceed to pass him rather easily, by 110 I had 3 cars and shut down. Lots of fun, cant wait to get a pulley and chip.

 

is it?

 

Sounds like fun. Congrats on the kill.

 

Bullsh$%t !!! On the C5 maybe but not the C32, dude. You're luck that he didn't want to race you because he can reach 175 mph easy. Sorry i messed up your dream.

 

The guy probably wasn't trying to race or didn't know how to drive. My buddy just sold his V8 Esprit and there wasn't much on the road that he didn't have an easy time destroying. I've driven a C32 as well as an Esprit V8 and there's no comparison.

 

We both have around the same HP, so I will assume it was driver error. He was racing because he did a fly by after I let out at over 100 mph. I now assume he was in the wrong gear but a kill is a kill.

Cool looking car but not to impressive. 350hp out of a twin turbo 3.5Liter V8?

Anyone know how much they weigh?

BTW: My vette would have destroyed the Lotus. 11.3 to 11.5 at 118-120 in the 1/4. Only Dyno's around 400 at the wheels and weighs 3500 lbs with me a 300lb driver.

 

I believe the C32 (like a lot of MBs) pull hard as hell on the highway. Maybe from a stand still the V8 has the advantage (HP/Weigh).

Maybe you caught him in the wrong gear, but you never know, The kompressor cars put out more power then the MBUSA site says and pull hard at roll on speeds.

Of course, some drivers don't race, just kind of "keep up" just for fun. Who knows.

 

If your the guy with the black c32 and the red vette vert, didn't your 400whp auto vette get walked by a 275whp turbo civic and a 390whp supra last month.

 

I want time slips buddy, because 400 at the wheels doesn't add up to 11.5 @ 120 in the 1/4. I call bull***** until you can post up something with proof. I'm about tired of all these Vette guys claiming Viper-like numbers.

 

The V8 Lotus weighs about 3100 lbs (versus C32 3600), and has 350hp/295lbs (same hp as C32, but less torque). Published 0-60 times for the Lotus are between 4.4 and 4.9 seconds. Quarter mile times are generally around 13 seconds. Very similar to a C32.

I have no problem believing that a stock C32 could take the Lotus in the type of race described (30 to 110 MPH). Nor would it have surprised me if the Lotus had beaten the C32. Why do you guys insist on oversimplifying automotive performance (I believe that you are commonly referred to as "Magazine Racers")? While a 14 second car will almost always get stomped by a 12 second car, the outcome of a race between two cars with similar performance is not predictable. Never underestimate the effect of the many variables (like gas quality, maintenance, driver skill, junk-in-the-trunk) which come into play to decide which of two roughly comparable performance cars (like the Lotus and the C32) will win a drag race. Also, Collis may have a C32 that is a little quicker than most, and the Lotus may have been a little slower than most. Remember, some stock C32 guys on this forum have broken into the twelves (with slicks), while others have battled to break into the thirteens. I trust that Collis was correct in his perception that the Lotus was racing, and lost. Otherwise, what are we to believe. . . that the Lotus pushed the accelerator hard enough to only fall a few carlengths back by 110 MPH, but not all the way to the floor? That makes no sense whatsoever.

As far as the Vette numbers go, they sound plausible to me. My 3600 lb. C32 with roughly 330 RWHP ran a 12.8 @ 112 MPH with stock 245 radials, so why couldn't a lighter car with a (presumably) manual tranny, fatter rubber, and alot more HP run a 11.5 @ 120? An objection was made that this is a "Viper Time," but isn't the Viper also about the same weight and HP as Collis' Vette?

 

Well Said!!

 

I will post some slips tomorrow. I have them at my house. My high stalled (Yank 3800 SS) vette does 0-60 in ~ 3.0 secs on drag radials so I guess you could say my vette is setup for drag racing. As for dyno numbers, they really dont apply to stalled autos as much as 6 speed cars. A 6 speed 99 hard top with my exact same setup dynoed 430 while I dyno less than 400.

I have a video of my vette running 11.68 at 118 next to my friend who ran a 11.8 at 121 (His car dynoed ~400 also). We have similar setups but he has a 2001 vs. my 98 convertable.

Can someone host it?

BTW: I have only lost 1 time to a viper against 9 different vipers. He drove the hell out of a 2004 Viper and I spun pretty bad in a 1/8 mile race. I ran a 7.8 at 92 to his 7.7 at 94 mph. He actually out 60' footed me 1.86 to a 1.92. My average 60 is 1.78 over my last 30 runs at the track. Vipers are hard to launch and if you do launch them hard they have a problem with break half shafts and u joints.

S4CE: Yea I did get beat from a roll against 2 6 speed cars. 6 speeds have better gearing for roll races! I also destroyed a similar 6 speed supra (430 rwhp) on drag radials by 3 cars from zero to 125 when I was running low 12's at the track and dynoed ~360. (Ask Beau Fensky)