H&R Lowered ML, w/BBS 18x10's
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H&R Lowered ML, w/BBS 18x10's
This is my second time trying to post this. The last time, the subject said HELP !! and most people don't like whiners and it did not get looked at very much and only got a total of 2 responses. Now I know that a lot of you have lowered your ML's and that I am not alone here, so here goes the post again. The only difference this time is that I know it is the traction control chattering. Can't figure out why it only does it when I do left sweeper higher speed turns (40MPH +)
I recently lowered my 99 ML320 with H&R Springs, and put Michelin 285 VR55 x 18 tires on BBS 18 x 10's. It looks awesome, and handles even more awesome, but something started happening that I cannot explain:
When I take a long LEFT HAND sweeper freeway on or off ramp, and take it hard, the yellow Hazard triangle in the middle of my speedo starts flashing and I hear weird noises coming from the front end. It does not happen when I do sweeper right turns, but only left ones.
If I drive it normal, it does not do this. Anyone else ever have that happen? I appreciate all responses.
I recently lowered my 99 ML320 with H&R Springs, and put Michelin 285 VR55 x 18 tires on BBS 18 x 10's. It looks awesome, and handles even more awesome, but something started happening that I cannot explain:
When I take a long LEFT HAND sweeper freeway on or off ramp, and take it hard, the yellow Hazard triangle in the middle of my speedo starts flashing and I hear weird noises coming from the front end. It does not happen when I do sweeper right turns, but only left ones.
If I drive it normal, it does not do this. Anyone else ever have that happen? I appreciate all responses.
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MERCEDES, JAGUAR, PORSCHE
How much did it cost you????
Please let everyone know the cost of the the hardware and the labor to do the "low-rider" installation???
A picture would be greatly appreciated!
I have been thinking about doing it, but I keep reading about the harsher ride when you lower your auto's profile.
Thanks!
JOHN
A picture would be greatly appreciated!
I have been thinking about doing it, but I keep reading about the harsher ride when you lower your auto's profile.
Thanks!
JOHN
Last edited by jfitzoz; Jun 21, 2002 at 09:32 AM.
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99 ML320
Lowering costs
The H&R Springs can be had for a mere $200.00, another $200.00 to install them, The front suspension is torsion bar and can be adjusted lower to match the rear at the same time the springs are installed. I was charged an additional $50.00 for the torsion bar lowering.
Bilstein Shocks, which i have still not puchased are about $100.00 each so add $400.00 to the mix. The correct Part Numbers for the ML Bilsteins are F4-BE5-2985-HO & F4-BE5-2983-HO
Now comes wheels and tires. The Tire rack is a viable option, but so is the Recycler and Ebay. if you are really looking for a bargain, do what I did and be patient and wait until something shows up. I didn't have to wait long until some guy posted his 18 x 10 BBS with Michelin VRs on Ebay for $1800.00. Incidentally this was the very setup I was eyeing at Tire Rack but had not taken the plunge to purchase just yet. Tire Rack's price for the same gettup was about $3300.00 shipped, so I saved a bundle.
Now the ride. You do lose a little bit of comfort wih this setup but it is not very noticeable. Thank God I live in Southern California where the roads are mostly "Pot-Hole Free"
But I do have to point out that I did this to make my ML handle better, and it handles 300% better. If anyone asks me if they should do it, I can't say GO FOR IT fast enough. My center of gravity is lower, the patch of rubber touching the ground is bigger, and that results in better handling all around, not to mention that the beefy wheels and tires Look GREAT on my ML. I will post some pictures as soon as I get my new digital camera.
Bilstein Shocks, which i have still not puchased are about $100.00 each so add $400.00 to the mix. The correct Part Numbers for the ML Bilsteins are F4-BE5-2985-HO & F4-BE5-2983-HO
Now comes wheels and tires. The Tire rack is a viable option, but so is the Recycler and Ebay. if you are really looking for a bargain, do what I did and be patient and wait until something shows up. I didn't have to wait long until some guy posted his 18 x 10 BBS with Michelin VRs on Ebay for $1800.00. Incidentally this was the very setup I was eyeing at Tire Rack but had not taken the plunge to purchase just yet. Tire Rack's price for the same gettup was about $3300.00 shipped, so I saved a bundle.
Now the ride. You do lose a little bit of comfort wih this setup but it is not very noticeable. Thank God I live in Southern California where the roads are mostly "Pot-Hole Free"
But I do have to point out that I did this to make my ML handle better, and it handles 300% better. If anyone asks me if they should do it, I can't say GO FOR IT fast enough. My center of gravity is lower, the patch of rubber touching the ground is bigger, and that results in better handling all around, not to mention that the beefy wheels and tires Look GREAT on my ML. I will post some pictures as soon as I get my new digital camera.
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hey JC...
post some pics... im thinking of doing the same... so how did the springs help without getting the shocks to match the new spring rate? does it bounce a lot?
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JC, here are some reccommendations
First, The tires you should put on the ML for 18 inch size wheels are 285/50/18's. Since you have 55 series tires, your overall tire diameter is larger by about 4.4% than stock. This could affect it. Also, make sure when you lowered it, you compensated for the camber adjustment. Lastly make sure your tires are inflated to the correct pressure.
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
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well
aside from the fact that the current wheel/tire diameter is too large people really should consider the fact that most people who want to buy ml's or any other good brand will not pay fair market value for mods that YOU think are important. ride comfort is a big part of why the majority of owners drive an ml. a high percentage if you pay attention [ not posters DRIVERS] are women. they couldnt care less about silly rims or lowering. they just want comfort and safety. this is not to say that doing those mods is bad but it is to say that you probably will not deal with a sympathetic person when it comes time to trade it in.
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aside from the fact that the current wheel/tire diameter is too large people really should consider the fact that most people who want to buy ml's or any other good brand will not pay fair market value for mods that YOU think are important. ride comfort is a big part of why the majority of owners drive an ml. a high percentage if you pay attention [ not posters DRIVERS] are women. they couldnt care less about silly rims or lowering. they just want comfort and safety. this is not to say that doing those mods is bad but it is to say that you probably will not deal with a sympathetic person when it comes time to trade it in.
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Just happen to be passsing through...thinking of buying a ML430 as tow vehicle for my track car. Anyhoo, can't say precisely what your problem is, but when I installed a set of HRs in my 911 (2000 996 C2) they were initially misadjusted. The bottom perches were not down low enough so the the sway bar was making contact with the rear control arms which limited the travel of the suspension and caused some serious loss of contact during corning (this was noted during an autocross and the car would stick stick stick then wham....rear end would step out horribly). Again I have no experience with the MB install, but if the front has adjustable perches for the front sway bar, you might have a similar problem. If so you would see a mark were contact occured on the top of the sway bar. Hope this helps.
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The new truck looks sweet pete! Hope you are going to shut the window on the porsche before driving off! .
BTW, I still can't get the aim right on the lights! It seems kinda dim on the road. Could you take some pics of your lights for me, like on the wall?
.BTW, I still can't get the aim right on the lights! It seems kinda dim on the road. Could you take some pics of your lights for me, like on the wall?
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Originally posted by AlBoston
The new truck looks sweet pete! Hope you are going to shut the window on the porsche before driving off! .
The new truck looks sweet pete! Hope you are going to shut the window on the porsche before driving off!
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Originally posted by AlBoston
BTW, I still can't get the aim right on the lights! It seems kinda dim on the road. Could you take some pics of your lights for me, like on the wall?
BTW, I still can't get the aim right on the lights! It seems kinda dim on the road. Could you take some pics of your lights for me, like on the wall?
I'll try to get a picture. My driveway is sloped so garage door pics don't work well.
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Originally posted by Some Pete Guy
MLs work well, even with a really porky Uhaul trailer.
MLs work well, even with a really porky Uhaul trailer.
) OTOH, I don't want to feel totally underpowered when I do tow. Thoughts?
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Originally posted by Some Pete Guy
Actually, that was after I rescued it from the track. Window was down the whole way because I couldn't open the door (cheapo trailer) and had to crawl out of the window NASCAR stylie.
Didn't the dealer align them for you?
I'll try to get a picture. My driveway is sloped so garage door pics don't work well.
Actually, that was after I rescued it from the track. Window was down the whole way because I couldn't open the door (cheapo trailer) and had to crawl out of the window NASCAR stylie.
Didn't the dealer align them for you?
I'll try to get a picture. My driveway is sloped so garage door pics don't work well.
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Originally posted by rjmann
Indeed your rig does truly look tres cool! BTW, Red brakes are a particularly nice touch!
Indeed your rig does truly look tres cool! BTW, Red brakes are a particularly nice touch!
Originally posted by rjmann
I suppose this is a bit off topic, but as you have experience towing, I'll ask. I presume that your ML is a 430/500/55 variant. Is it reasonable to tow with a 320/50? I will be towing an aluminum trailer and a '73 911 RS Clone. The whole package with an extra set or two of wheels and some spares should conservatively weigh in just north of 3500 lbs.
I suppose this is a bit off topic, but as you have experience towing, I'll ask. I presume that your ML is a 430/500/55 variant. Is it reasonable to tow with a 320/50? I will be towing an aluminum trailer and a '73 911 RS Clone. The whole package with an extra set or two of wheels and some spares should conservatively weigh in just north of 3500 lbs.
I was at around 5500 lbs with the Uhaul and it tracked/cornered very well.
The V8 is pretty torquey so I had no problems with acceleration.
I have heard many good reports from folks towing boats with 320s.
Good luck.
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hehe, thats such a sweet car though. I got the dealer to align them but they were aimed so far down i couldn't see like 20 feet ahead of me. I am taking it back to them tommorow i hope.
hehe, thats such a sweet car though. I got the dealer to align them but they were aimed so far down i couldn't see like 20 feet ahead of me. I am taking it back to them tommorow i hope.
I raised them myself by turning the white adjustment knobs.
