M-Class (W164) Produced 2006-2011: ML280CDI, ML320CDI, ML420CDI, ML350, ML500, ML550

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Will ML get the 420CDI engine in Europe, specifically the UK?

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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isn't it 400CDI for W163?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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isn't it 400CDI for W163?
I'm not sure. It's called the 420 in the GL, but whatever they're calling it, was wondering if they have any plans to offer the V8 dielsel in the current ML in Europe.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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current ML is W164, i'm sure there is/will be V8 diesel in europe...
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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this thread..
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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this thread..
Come on now don't be grouchy just cos you don't get any sunshine.

Thanks mj50. Just planning for a replacement car in GB and weighing up all my options.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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this thread makes no sense. read your initial post pal.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman
this thread makes no sense. read your initial post pal.
Gee you're very angry.

Of course it makes sense. The ML only comes with the 320CDI engine in the UK at the moment as the 420CDI is so far only available on the GL. I was asking if anyone knew if they had plans to fit the V8 diesel too the ML. You do not so don't bother posting, pal.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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this thread makes no sense. read your initial post pal.
Flaming someone because they accidentally posted in the W163 page instead of the W164...

...you are one extremely sad individual.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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accidentally posted in the W163 page instead of the W164...
Oops, so I did. This nomenclature can all be a bit much when half awake.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:24 AM
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Gee you're very angry.

Of course it makes sense. The ML only comes with the 320CDI engine in the UK at the moment as the 420CDI is so far only available on the GL. I was asking if anyone knew if they had plans to fit the V8 diesel too the ML. You do not so don't bother posting, pal.
whos mad? not me.

what was the point in the first post? there was none.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:24 AM
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Flaming someone because they accidentally posted in the W163 page instead of the W164...

...you are one extremely sad individual.
who flamed him? and did i say anything about the vehicle?

your comprehension skills are lacking. making you, a dullard.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Moving to W164.
Come on guys, lets be calm and collected, no need to jump the gun (any of you guys).
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Ricky...

I would be interested in buying an ML if it came with the V8 diesel and was wondering if there were any plans to make one. The main point of this forum is so that people can gain information about Mercedes vehicles. There was, and still is, no point to a certain member's uneducated and inflammatory intervention in this matter. My sympathies are with you for having to try and control such behavior.

By the way, good luck with the car search. I Still think an E39 M5 is the way to go.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Checking the German and Swiss MB websites and downloading the pricelists there is indeed a ML 420 CDI (...probably available last quarter 2006...).

Price approx same as ML 500.

Power exactly as ML 500 but torque 700 Nm/2000 rpm instead of 460/2700 for the ML 500.

Fuel consumption 11.1 l/100 Km instead of 13.4 for the ML 500.

Hope this helps
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Eubios
Checking the German and Swiss MB websites and downloading the pricelists there is indeed a ML 420 CDI (...probably available last quarter 2006...).

Price approx same as ML 500.

Power exactly as ML 500 but torque 700 Nm/2000 rpm instead of 460/2700 for the ML 500.

Fuel consumption 11.1 l/100 Km instead of 13.4 for the ML 500.

Hope this helps
It absolutely helps. That's a great engine and in the relatively light ML should make it usefully quick and the economy is fairly good.

Thank you
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Thanks Carl.
My dad ended up getting a LX470 and I took his SL.
We'll see about an E60M5 perhaps in two years when the LS600lh is also available.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Has anyone noticed the difference with the 5 liter (petrol) engines used in the ML and GL's?
225 KW's for the ML500 and 285 for the GL500. Mmm, doesn't sound very fair as they are the same engines... thats like a 65HP increase for the GL!
Just an observation.
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Thanks Carl.
My dad ended up getting a LX470 and I took his SL.
We'll see about an E60M5 perhaps in two years when the LS600lh is also available.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by META
Has anyone noticed the difference with the 5 liter (petrol) engines used in the ML and GL's?
225 KW's for the ML500 and 285 for the GL500. Mmm, doesn't sound very fair as they are the same engines... thats like a 65HP increase for the GL!
Just an observation.
They're not the same. The engine in the GL is the new V8 which i believe is 5.5 litres. The ML has the old 5 litre V8.
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Correct, the GL500 in Europe uses the new 5.5L V8, but they kept the "500" name. Here in the U.S. everything with the new 5.5L V8 is a "550". The ML500, R500 and G500 all use the old 5L V8 from the W220 S-Class and all other 2006 "500" MB models. Why they haven't made the G/ML/R "550" models yet is beyond me. I certainly wouldn't buy a ML500 right now, because you know the new engine is coming sooner or later. I don't think we'll get the V8 diesel here in the U.S. unless ML320 CDI sales really take off.

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