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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Anyone put the 20x10 AMG wheels w/ 295/40s on a regular ML? I only wonder if they stick out too far with out the 63's flares. I know this was asked in a previous thread but I did not see a response.

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I'm curious about the opposite .. if I install the flares, and don't get the wider tires, will it look werid and the tires look "sunk" into the body?

There is another thread and SL%% posted a URL to a PDF file. If you look in that, they note that the 20" wheels require the flares I believe.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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I'm curious about the opposite .. if I install the flares, and don't get the wider tires, will it look werid and the tires look "sunk" into the body?

There is another thread and SL%% posted a URL to a PDF file. If you look in that, they note that the 20" wheels require the flares I believe.
My opinion is Yes. The wheels/tires already look too skinny compared to the W163, IMO.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
Anyone put the 20x10 AMG wheels w/ 295/40s on a regular ML? I only wonder if they stick out too far with out the 63's flares. I know this was asked in a previous thread but I did not see a response.
No the stick out only a little bit I have the AMG 9.5*19 with 295/45 and rear it still some milimeters inside, and front it stiks out 1 or 2 mm.

I won't install fender flares.

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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pics of your wheels please....so we can have an idea how a 9.5x20 rim on 295 tires fit on the front fenders.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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I only have this one right now.
Attached Thumbnails ML63 wheels/tires on regular ML-dsc000888.jpg  
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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I have an ML350 with 20" AMG wheels and 295/40 tires. I do also have the full AMG bidy kit with flares. The wheels sit about a few mm's inside the flares, so I would imagine that without them they would stick out just a bit.
I did see another ML350 just like mine with the AMG flares, etc.. but with 18" wheels and they were totally sunk in – looked pretty ungainly.

I think if you do get the 20's you should also opt for the flares – plus they make the whole car look so much meaner!
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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was the ML u saw with flares on 18"s equipped with the standard bumpers of AMG bumpers?

im wondering if the flares can be installed on NON-AMG bumpers.

also, how are the flares fitted???? adhesive? clips? bolts/drilling?
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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was the ML u saw with flares on 18"s equipped with the standard bumpers of AMG bumpers?

im wondering if the flares can be installed on NON-AMG bumpers.

also, how are the flares fitted???? adhesive? clips? bolts/drilling?
The car also had the AMG bumpers and I don't think the flares work with the normal bumpers.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by META
The car also had the AMG bumpers and I don't think the flares work with the normal bumpers.
Looks like they're close enough to be adapted.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by META
I have an ML350 with 20" AMG wheels and 295/40 tires. I do also have the full AMG bidy kit with flares. The wheels sit about a few mm's inside the flares, so I would imagine that without them they would stick out just a bit.
I did see another ML350 just like mine with the AMG flares, etc.. but with 18" wheels and they were totally sunk in – looked pretty ungainly.

I think if you do get the 20's you should also opt for the flares – plus they make the whole car look so much meaner!
Well, I've got the 20x10s (295/40) on the way. I'll try them without the flares and post pics.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 04:30 AM
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For your information:

The part number of the Fender Flares for the AMG bumpers is B6 603 6229.

I think there is another part number for the normal bumpers but I don't have it.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
Well, I've got the 20x10s (295/40) on the way. I'll try them without the flares and post pics.
Hey Greg, I also have the regular body style and am interested in the AMG rims. Please post pics as soon as you get em, I'm anxious to see how it will look.

Also, where did you order them from and how much?
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Hey Greg, I also have the regular body style and am interested in the AMG rims. Please post pics as soon as you get em, I'm anxious to see how it will look.

Also, where did you order them from and how much?
I bought them from a guy on the b*world forum who replaced the wheels on his ML63 with HREs. Price new (#B6 603 0075) is $1,160 each + tires (Continental Cross Contacts 295/40-20) at $288 each (Tire Rack).

Much better deal to find some take-offs. Those who can afford the 63 often want to go the next step and further personalize it. I will post pics when I mount them.
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Price new (#B6 603 0075) is $1,160 each
WOW!!! no thanks, but expected. I was hoping to find replicas of them. Their are a ton of other MB, Brabus, and lorinser style knock offs. They look the same and are MUCH cheaper. But haven't found any AMG style ones.
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WOW!!! no thanks, but expected. I was hoping to find replicas of them. Their are a ton of other MB, Brabus, and lorinser style knock offs. They look the same and are MUCH cheaper. But haven't found any AMG style ones.
You pretty much get what you pay for. Personally, I don't like to use knock-off products on a vehicle of this quality. Doesn't make sense to buy a top quality truck and skimp on the parts, IMO. I'd rather wait and save up if I have to.
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have u got the ML63 wheels on? pics pics...
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have u got the ML63 wheels on? pics pics...
Nope, they will arrive Tuesday. I'll have mounted pics by next weekend. Here's a pic the seller sent me:


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have u got the ML63 wheels on? pics pics...
Here are some pics as they arrived today; won't have time to mount on the truck until this weekend.

4' of traction (well, 3'-11"):






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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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looks good,maybe i missed it but what was your total greg. thanks
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have u got the ML63 wheels on? pics pics...
I put on the ML63 wheels today. First some data.

19x8.5 OEM wheel w/ 255/50 Pirelli I&S (~6k mi.) - 69.5 lb.
20x10 AMG wheel w/ 295/40 Continental CrossTerrains UHP (~4k mi.) - 74.1 lb.

Tires on AMG stick out about 35mm further than OEM. They are 10mm beyhond the top of the wheel arch in front, and flush with the top in the rear. As the wheel well wraps down front and rear it tapers in so they are out further.

The second photo is of the 19s, the rest are of the 20s. Photos of the AMGs are with Airmatic on Sport setting. I'm thinking I may want to add the flares.









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i dont see mounted wheel pics, only the earlier post with stacked up wheels/tires
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