here's something a bit depressing for 2011 buyers
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here's something a bit depressing for 2011 buyers
looked at trading my ML in on another car. i got an offer for 41K. for a 58K mrsp car.
i don't think that's accurate, but was told that was mannheim auction numbers.
i'm used to trading cars and am well adjusted to price drop especially first year, but this seems excessive.
i don't think that's accurate, but was told that was mannheim auction numbers.
i'm used to trading cars and am well adjusted to price drop especially first year, but this seems excessive.
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It must depend on where you are and what you are trading it on. Here in western Canada, virtually all 2011 Mercedes vehicles are on sale at my two local dealers, except for MLs, which have been selling very well -- particularly the diesels. Anything with a V8 tends to lose value faster.
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looked at trading my ML in on another car. i got an offer for 41K. for a 58K mrsp car.
i don't think that's accurate, but was told that was mannheim auction numbers.
i'm used to trading cars and am well adjusted to price drop especially first year, but this seems excessive.
i don't think that's accurate, but was told that was mannheim auction numbers.
i'm used to trading cars and am well adjusted to price drop especially first year, but this seems excessive.
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It must depend on where you are and what you are trading it on. Here in western Canada, virtually all 2011 Mercedes vehicles are on sale at my two local dealers, except for MLs, which have been selling very well -- particularly the diesels. Anything with a V8 tends to lose value faster.
I agree with you that the V8 may become an outlaw soon, due to the gas prices. Personally I am very happy with, and enjoy, my option to buy a V8.
And when the cars will run on AA batteries, a V8 may gain an added vintage value...
Also dealers are very skillful to use every bargaining reason available to lower the trade-in value for a model like ours, based on promotional stereotypes. But I am sure that if you'll go to inquire about buying a used V8 ML, they will serve same reversed reasons to ask for a higher price than for a comparable similar V6.
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roadrutz,
I agree with you that the V8 may become an outlaw soon, due to the gas prices. Personally I am very happy with, and enjoy, my option to buy a V8.
And when the cars will run on AA batteries, a V8 may gain an added vintage value...
Also dealers are very skillful to use every bargaining reason available to lower the trade-in value for a model like ours, based on promotional stereotypes. But I am sure that if you'll go to inquire about buying a used V8 ML, they will serve same reversed reasons to ask for a higher price than for a comparable similar V6.
I agree with you that the V8 may become an outlaw soon, due to the gas prices. Personally I am very happy with, and enjoy, my option to buy a V8.
And when the cars will run on AA batteries, a V8 may gain an added vintage value...
Also dealers are very skillful to use every bargaining reason available to lower the trade-in value for a model like ours, based on promotional stereotypes. But I am sure that if you'll go to inquire about buying a used V8 ML, they will serve same reversed reasons to ask for a higher price than for a comparable similar V6.
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This is the reason why we got '11 model as I'm not feeling the new ML. I'm sure technology is much better but that's it. I've seen several new ML's on the road and the rear end makes me puke. We paid $51K for our new '11 ML with P2 package, tow hitch, many extras with $59K msrp.
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I guess I'm old school because I really like my current 09 ML550 V8 (now with 410 hp) and will trade/sell it in 2013 for a new ML63. I really don't care or give a ---- about gas mileage.
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It is interesting..............
This is the reason why we got '11 model as I'm not feeling the new ML. I'm sure technology is much better but that's it. I've seen several new ML's on the road and the rear end makes me puke. We paid $51K for our new '11 ML with P2 package, tow hitch, many extras with $59K msrp.
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2012 looks
That you say this..I feel the same way..the rear of the W166 is a disaster, enough for the 63 model to look different than the 350 and 550, the rear exhaust pipes is what I am talking about...The overhangs of this vehicle are too short and make this vehicle look terribly "stubby"....It will be interesting to see at mid-model what changes they incorporate into this vehicle..."please change those tail-lights and make the exhaust pipes exposed..it is a Mercedes for peeps sake, not a Lexus !!!!!!
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Greg, my friend.........
I agree with the hidden tailpipe fiasco. Looks like they are trying to make it look green or luxury, but it's a truck and should not be ashamed of it's propulsion system. I diasagree on the overhangs; SUVs traditionally strive for short overhangs for offroad clearance, and I prefer this look. Taillights are just okay, but will probably grow on me.
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From: N.Jersey and New York, stationed in Germany
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I have mixed emotions with the new ML, I saw a silver one at the dealership several weeks ago and it did nothing for me, then a week later I saw a white one in Trier, Germany which looked fully loaded with 21 AMG wheels and it looked awesome, it also had I would say the designo leather package, sorry I have no pics.
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I have mixed emotions with the new ML, I saw a silver one at the dealership several weeks ago and it did nothing for me, then a week later I saw a white one in Trier, Germany which looked fully loaded with 21 AMG wheels and it looked awesome, it also had I would say the designo leather package, sorry I have no pics.
Did you like anything in particular on the new German ML? The ML sold in Germany is manufactured also in Alabama, or in Europe?
Thank you
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No, the ML is built in the states that I know of and thats why I guess it just came out over here, the AMG wheels did wonders for it and I think they were 21s. If I see it again when I go to Trier I will take some cell phone pics. The silver one I saw at the dealership was a plain Jane model but the White one looked pretty much optioned out.
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All W166s are built in Alabama. What Ive seen mostly come through the line are for America, China and Germany in that order of amount built. I would say that at the moment 85% of the W166s that come through are American spec.
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So you've seen some Designo interiors? What major parts come from Germany?
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2011 ML550 Blk/blk, P02, Ltr Pkg, Lght Pkg
No, the ML is built in the states that I know of and thats why I guess it just came out over here, the AMG wheels did wonders for it and I think they were 21s. If I see it again when I go to Trier I will take some cell phone pics. The silver one I saw at the dealership was a plain Jane model but the White one looked pretty much optioned out.
