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First Bluetec to run out of exhaust fluid ?

Old Nov 10, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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First Bluetec to run out of exhaust fluid ?

Hello Mbworld I would like to introduce myself, my name is Pete and Im a vw guy however I run an indy euro shop that recently got in a 2010 ML350 Bluetec (blue efficiency badges) and the guy drove it all the way through the warnings and the 20 restart warning and as warned the vehicle is locked up. He then unhooked the negative battery cable under the seat and had it towed into my shop.


I cleared all the codes in every module. The car is aparently disabled from starting by the SCR (Selective catalyst) module, I successfully cleared all faults including this module but still no response from the key.

the car is obviously filled to the brim now with the exhaust fluid

Any input would be appreciated other than tow it to the dealer

cheers , Pete
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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If Startekinfo.com doesn't offer some guidance, then it's a trip to the dealer for their star diagnostics computer.
I have also heard of this when the fluid freezes, and the sensor thinks it's empty. Also make sure no fluid spills in the cargo area. That can become a electrical nightmare.
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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Wish I could offer a solution..but if that guy treats his vehicle like that, he honestly deserves what he got..let us know when he runs it out of oil
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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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I've always assumed that once a certain amount of DEF is placed into the tank a sensor detects it and allows the car to start again.However,if I'm only partially correct and the sensor resets everything when DEF is added to a tank that's *not* empty then it might be more complicated than that.I've read that some detectors will not react to small quantities being added.

I,myself,have never received a "low DEF" warning so I can't claim any special expertise or experience.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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I came across this article from MB's Owners Manual website.

"AdBlue®
Important notes on use

To function properly, BlueTEC exhaust gas aftertreatment must be operated with the reducing agent AdBlue®.

When the supply of AdBlue® is almost used up, the Refill AdBlue See Owner's Manual message is shown in the multifunction display.

When the AdBlue® supply drops to a minimum, the Refill AdBlue No start in XXXX km message is shown in the multifunction display.

If the Refill AdBlue No start in XXXX km message is shown in the multifunction display, you can still drive the vehicle over the distance shown. If the AdBlue® is not topped up, you will subsequently be unable to start the engine. Refill the AdBlue® tank or have the AdBlue® tank refilled at a qualified specialist workshop. If the Refill AdBlue Eng. start not possible message appears in the multifunction display and the engine does not start, you must top up with at least 3.8 l AdBlue® (approximately 2 AdBlue® refill bottles). "
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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I'm a soon to be owner of 2010 ML350 Bluetec (picking it up next Wednesday), how much AdBlue is filled at each oil change? and to void being ripped off by MB dealer, I plan to add the DEF myself, how easy/difficult is it to add? is there some sort of senor I need to reset after? thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dgiturbo
If Startekinfo.com doesn't offer some guidance, then it's a trip to the dealer for their star diagnostics computer.
I have also heard of this when the fluid freezes, and the sensor thinks it's empty. Also make sure no fluid spills in the cargo area. That can become a electrical nightmare.
+1
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by zesster
I'm a soon to be owner of 2010 ML350 Bluetec (picking it up next Wednesday), how much AdBlue is filled at each oil change? and to void being ripped off by MB dealer, I plan to add the DEF myself, how easy/difficult is it to add? is there some sort of senor I need to reset after? thanks in advance.
probably 6 to 7 gallons for every oil change.
you install it under the rear hatch floor board
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Originally Posted by zesster
I'm a soon to be owner of 2010 ML350 Bluetec (picking it up next Wednesday), how much AdBlue is filled at each oil change? and to void being ripped off by MB dealer, I plan to add the DEF myself, how easy/difficult is it to add? is there some sort of senor I need to reset after? thanks in advance.
Not that difficult.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezUPuUHGa04
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Old May 2, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Is there a solution to this problem yet?

I have heard engine ECU replacement is needed after you ran the Adblue tank dry?! Is that true?

$1600 seems like a very expensive lesson thanks to MB.
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Old May 6, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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