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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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Check coolant level light on cold starts.

Check coolant level light on cold starts.

The level is factory perfect normal. Is there anything I am missing.

The light comes on if I turn the car to ON without starting the engine or right when I first start the engine.
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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All the lights usually come on when starting the car so you can see if the bulbs are working. They go off in a few seconds. If it stays on then you have a problem.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by katiesdad7
All the lights usually come on when starting the car so you can see if the bulbs are working. They go off in a few seconds. If it stays on then you have a problem.
Thank you dear Watson, I am well aware. Please review below.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Thank you dear Watson, I am well aware.
Could be a bad sensor or sensor connection.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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this happened to me yesterday also. 44 degrees out and parked on a slight incline

was anything added to your vehicle lately or modified? been to the dealership and they changed something?
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jbondox
this happened to me yesterday also. 44 degrees out and parked on a slight incline

was anything added to your vehicle lately or modified? been to the dealership and they changed something?
Just an oil change. Had the vehicle on jackstands in the front for about 30 minutes.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Thank you dear Watson, I am well aware. Please review below.
My bad. I didn't know you also got a message on the dash.
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Old Oct 31, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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I wonder if it had something to do with the tilt. My drive is sloped about 20 degrees. I haven't seen it since and it has been a few days.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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It happened to me a few times on the W164. I opened the lid, visually saw the level was okay, then closed the lid. The warning went away.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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It's history repeating itself.
Common issue when the W164's came out also.
With the diesels, my theory is that the coolant system has several air pockets that do not get filled properly at the factory. As you drive and the engine goes through normal heat cycles, the coolant eventually fills these areas. When the temps start to drop due to winter, and you park the vehicle overnight, the system draws from the reservoir bottle to refill the engine. This triggers the low coolant message as the stupid hyperactive sensor is in the bottle. It will look like a normal level, but it is actually 2-3 oz low.
Add about a half cup of Xerex G-05 or Mercedes brand coolant, and your problem is solved. You will need to do this about 4 or 5 times over the next 2 years at the onset of winter, or if you drive from sea level to the top of the Colorado Rockies. (Ask me how I know that one)
After that the system should be fully "burped".

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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Digiturbo, that sounds like a load of .... But then my problem IIRC occurred when we were in the Victorian Alps. Okay that's still pretty low compared to Colorado.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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It is what it is.
Unless you actually have a coolant leak and seeing a puddle, that is the fix.

The cool, high altitude mountain air would definitely do it. Vehicles I had before had a factory bleed screw or a larger reservoir and a more forgiving sensor. Oh well. Guess the engineers at MB must have some reason.

By the way, depending on your before and after altitude and temperature, the tire pressure warning may have triggered also.

Real fun waking up on a cold crisp mountain vacation in the middle of nowhere, and upon starting your ML to go get breakfast, see see 2 big warnings that say you are low on coolant and may have tire pressure issues...
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Or when you have the breakfast makings with you, and you find the milk bottle has burst and spread it's contents over the potato crisps, whose packets had also burst.

And this is only at 5500 feet. How do you cope in high altitudes?
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Took it in for service !

Service Liason told me that the washer fluid was low and that triggered the check coolant level warning.

So I called "B-S"

Service manager came over pacified the situation said he would do "research" called me back an hour later and told me that COOLANT and WASHERFLUID both run on the same "circuit board."

"The vehicle noticed that SOME fluid level is at a critical low and therefore triggered the most critical warning so that you would come into the stealership and get it checked out." (if this is true I just lost all respect for German engineering)

I am not embellishing but this what he attributed it to.
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 300DTurbo
Service Liason told me that the washer fluid was low and that triggered the check coolant level warning.

So I called "B-S"

Service manager came over pacified the situation said he would do "research" called me back an hour later and told me that COOLANT and WASHERFLUID both run on the same "circuit board."

"The vehicle noticed that SOME fluid level is at a critical low and therefore triggered the most critical warning so that you would come into the stealership and get it checked out." (if this is true I just lost all respect for German engineering)

I am not embellishing but this what he attributed it to.
Now that's creative.
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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The coolant level is too low.
! Avoid making long journeys with too little coolant in the engine cooling system. The engine will otherwise be damaged.
X Add coolant, observing the warning notes before doing so (Y page 367).
X If coolant needs to be added more often than usual, have the engine coolant system checked at a qualified specialist workshop.

This is right from page 299 of the owners manual. It doesn't mention the washer level at all.

This is from page 314:
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Check Washer Fluid

The washer fluid level in the washer fluid reservoir has dropped below the minimum.
X Add washer fluid (Y page 368).

Seems that, at least according to the owners manual, that each system is separate. You were right to call BS on the dealer.
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Originally Posted by 300DTurbo
Service Liason told me that the washer fluid was low and that triggered the check coolant level warning.
Ha Ha Ha hold on I have to wipe up my coffee I just spewed all over my keyboard.
so please ask them what fluid has to be low to trigger the low washer fluid warning.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 300DTurbo
Check coolant level light on cold starts.

The level is factory perfect normal. Is there anything I am missing.

The light comes on if I turn the car to ON without starting the engine or right when I first start the engine.
Mine started doing the same thing about a month ago! It isn't even cold here and I park on a perfectly level concrete pad. Once I press the "OK" button, all is good

Def a problem which MB is going to have to figure out and issue a software and/or sensor update.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BoatRacer
Mine started doing the same thing about a month ago! It isn't even cold here and I park on a perfectly level concrete pad. Once I press the "OK" button, all is good

Def a problem which MB is going to have to figure out and issue a software and/or sensor update.
add windshield washer fluid (to the washer reservoir ) and let us know if the problem resolves~?!
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dgiturbo
... You will need to do this about 4 or 5 times over the next 2 years at the onset of winter, or if you drive from sea level to the top of the Colorado Rockies. (Ask me how I know that one)
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Hit me, what happened to you in the Rockies? I drove my brand new ML550 from Denver (6000ft) over Loveland Pass (12000ft) as well as Kenosha Pass (10000ft) this weekend with no issues...
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Left the Chicagoland area (800+-ft) in 90F summer and drove to a remote part of the Rocky Mnt Nat Park. (12000+-Ft). After bear proofing the ML (no food, snacks, wife's lipstick etc) and turning in for the night, temps dropped to near freezing. Next morning, started the ML and low coolant and tire pressure warnings are on. (Thanks Boyle for your law.)
The main issue was that we were in such a remote bear roaming area, not where you want warnings of possibly having flat tires or overheating.
Yes in those instances, you think the most extreme.

Other than a quick trip to a well stocked gas station, all was well. The turbo diesel motor loved the hill climbs and pulled excellent.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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Queue sad trombone sound... happened to me too when I started mine up at Denver airport after standing in the parking garage for 24 hours. Am hoping it's just "gas" in the system as a previous poster suggested.

The "hot" level seems to be totally full, while the "cold" level seems to be about an inch from the top of the black plastic. I don't see any "fill to here" marks on the side of the reservoir, but I wouldn't imagine that the level warrants a warning light?

Oh well, warning hasn't come on since - I'm planning to drive for a another week or so to check warning light behaviour before topping her up with additional coolant.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Just happened to me too

My diesel was parked at the airport for 3days. Outside temp in low 40s when I started it and got that warning message as well. As I needed my 10000 oil change I had them check coolant and top off. I don't expect to get that warning again but if I do I'll be sispicious and repost here.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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My car is also at 7500 km, 4 months old. I got a warning saying "Top up the coolant, see owners manual". I did so and filled it completely up to the lid. The warning is gone now. The dealer told me that the reason may be they forgot to top up the fluid when the car arrived from the factory before they delivered to me. Otherwise, if this happens again, there is a leak.
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Originally Posted by Pitazorro
dealer told me that the reason may be they forgot to top up the fluid when the car arrived from the factory
I call BS

On a $12,000 motor I highly doubt that would be "forgotten."
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