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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Help me to choose guys

Hi Folks here,
This is my first post on this forum, I was a serious Bimmer fans.
Nowadays, I am thinking to trade in my 2012 x6 to the 2014 ml63 amg. I have done the test drive of it, and was satisfied by the performance of it.
However, I can not decide which one shall I take between Ml 63 and E63. 2014, both of them will be awd. I live in Toronto Canada, so based on the reliability and daily comfort issues, which one shall I take?
I will use the car as dd. Thanks a lot.
Any opinion will be kindly accepted.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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I recently faced a similar decision - albeit at the 350 end of the spectrum - and decided to go with the ML over the E.

I found the ML more comfortable and quieter driving than the E (vs my parent's E550 sport, at least).

I haven't been to Toronto in a few years, but the commute traffic up there is as bad as most major metros, and I find that the higher vantage point of an SUV makes being stuck in traffic just a little more bearable.

You don't get much terribly deep snow, but during those few storms, a little extra ground clearance is nice to have (vs worrying about taking the front of your bumper out on some hardpack or ice).

And...a trailer hitch can come in handy...when you need to bring some supplies up to the cottage...

Either way - you've got two fantastic choices, and whatever decision you make is going to be a great driver...enjoy...

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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 340z
I recently faced a similar decision - albeit at the 350 end of the spectrum - and decided to go with the ML over the E.

I found the ML more comfortable and quieter driving than the E (vs my parent's E550 sport, at least).

I haven't been to Toronto in a few years, but the commute traffic up there is as bad as most major metros, and I find that the higher vantage point of an SUV makes being stuck in traffic just a little more bearable.

You don't get much terribly deep snow, but during those few storms, a little extra ground clearance is nice to have (vs worrying about taking the front of your bumper out on some hardpack or ice).

And...a trailer hitch can come in handy...when you need to bring some supplies up to the cottage...



Either way - you've got two fantastic choices, and whatever decision you make is going to be a great driver...enjoy...
Thanks a lot. Yep, personally I also prefer ML over E based on the advantages you have mentioned for ML. However, I just read some post and all of them said ML is less reliable than E. How is the reliability of your ML so far? Is it a good dd?
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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jlx6 - If you are looking for "performance" from a pure driving stand point, I don't think there's any question that the E63 will do almost everything better. If you are concerned about the utilitarian aspects of the vehicles, there are things like ride height and luggage space that may favor the ML63 for you. I also agree with 340z about the trailer hitch option on the ML.
So that you can get even more confused, have you considered the E63S Estate? Very exclusive, very utilitarian and although I have not been in a MY14, all indication is that it is really awesome with the addition of the 4Matic. If you order one, there is the added benefit that I think you will be able to get one this year but delivery time may be questionable for E63 sedan. I am in the process of ordering E63S Estate to change from our E350 Estate. Our current Estate is our 4th one. We love it! It's much easier to put things on the roof compared to the ML and the emergency jump seats get used more often than we ever think it would. Drives like a luxury sedan should with all the benefits of a wagon.
We also have had an ML and about to take delivery on a Bluetec. We will use the ML to tow a couple of jet skis and the occasional small trailer. We also cycle quite a bit and enjoy the ability to attach a hitch mounted platform bike rack. We have the MB Bike racks that attach to the basic carrier on our wagon. I have attempted to load our bikes on the wagon by myself and I always think it is too difficult to do alone, even with a very light road bike. No such problems when using the hitch mounted rack!
I'm sure I just confused you more but isn't the process of choosing the car you want to drive part of the fun? Good luck!
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jnejah
jlx6 - If you are looking for "performance" from a pure driving stand point, I don't think there's any question that the E63 will do almost everything better. If you are concerned about the utilitarian aspects of the vehicles, there are things like ride height and luggage space that may favor the ML63 for you. I also agree with 340z about the trailer hitch option on the ML.
So that you can get even more confused, have you considered the E63S Estate? Very exclusive, very utilitarian and although I have not been in a MY14, all indication is that it is really awesome with the addition of the 4Matic. If you order one, there is the added benefit that I think you will be able to get one this year but delivery time may be questionable for E63 sedan. I am in the process of ordering E63S Estate to change from our E350 Estate. Our current Estate is our 4th one. We love it! It's much easier to put things on the roof compared to the ML and the emergency jump seats get used more often than we ever think it would. Drives like a luxury sedan should with all the benefits of a wagon.
We also have had an ML and about to take delivery on a Bluetec. We will use the ML to tow a couple of jet skis and the occasional small trailer. We also cycle quite a bit and enjoy the ability to attach a hitch mounted platform bike rack. We have the MB Bike racks that attach to the basic carrier on our wagon. I have attempted to load our bikes on the wagon by myself and I always think it is too difficult to do alone, even with a very light road bike. No such problems when using the hitch mounted rack!
I'm sure I just confused you more but isn't the process of choosing the car you want to drive part of the fun? Good luck!
Thanks for reply. Personally I have owned 3 suvs till now range rover sport x5 x6, but I have never tried a mb ml. I testdrove it, and I really love it. Actually, the only question I am wondering is the reliability of ml63 similar the e63. My 3 buddies all have c63s. All of the 3 63s are all very reliable. If anyone can make sure the reliability of ml63 is not bad, I woild like to choose ml 63 over the rocket e63.
Thanks. I saw you have the ml63, how is the reliability so far?
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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jlx6 - never had a problem with our ML63. About a yr old with 10k miles on it! Use it to go mostly highway and never towed anything with it. MB dealer always treats us well so never really worried about our cars that are under warranty.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jlx6
Thanks a lot. Yep, personally I also prefer ML over E based on the advantages you have mentioned for ML. However, I just read some post and all of them said ML is less reliable than E. How is the reliability of your ML so far? Is it a good dd?
I only have 2500 miles on mine, so it's probably too early to give you a very useful reliability report.

As I was reading the forums to make my decision, it looked like most of the ML issues were with older platforms or the 2012 (first year for the 166). One of my co-workers has a 2012 ML350 BlueTec and has had no issues in 15k miles.

I've only just brought mine in for service today for the first time for two minor issues.

1. seat cushion material was a little puckered in one corner. 2. very minor hum from the rear at around 32 mph.

I'm guessing that that the seat cover was either not sewn well or not installed well and will be an easy fix. The hum appears to just be a bad tire.

My first impression of the ML during several test drives was that it was easy to drive, quiet and comfortable.

That has not changed since mine came in. As a daily driver, I love it! It rides very smoothly (at least on the standard spring suspension - I have a diesel and could not get the adjustable suspension).

I actually have found myself finding reasons to drive it and taking backroads around the SF Bay Area just to chill out in it a bit.

I was really reminded today just how nice it is to drive, as I had the loaner C-Class Sport on this morning's drive and could barely tolerate the C'a rough ride and road and engine noise.

The ML is also extremely quiet for an SUV - very little wind or road noise in the cabin, so long drives are not fatiguing.

We took two friends to a party about about 2 hours east of us recently, and both commented how comfortable the ride was. My wife even sat with in the back to chat with her friend, and commented that it was just as comfortable as the front seat. After driving 2 hours, partying outside in 90 degree heat for 7 hours, stopping to shop at the outlets on the way back, and driving 2 hours back, we all felt rested and had no road fatigue. So we all went out for dinner at 10pm...in the past, I would have left the party earlier, gotten home as soon as possible and just called it a day without going out to dinner...probably would not have let them stop to shop either...;-)
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jnejah
jlx6 - never had a problem with our ML63. About a yr old with 10k miles on it! Use it to go mostly highway and never towed anything with it. MB dealer always treats us well so never really worried about our cars that are under warranty.
Yep. I think I can believe the reliability of ml now. However, for the dealer service, it is another story in Canada.
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Thanks so much. Hah I am 95% sure to go with ml now. Just waiting for two more weeks and then go to dealer to put down my order. Hah. Thanks again 340z and jnejah. Both of you are nicest guys on car forum I have ever met. Thanks again. See you bimmer, I am coming MB.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Had an e63 for a few months.

A great ride but severely limiting size wise. Just got into an ml63 and all I have to say is woo hoo! It's the best of both worlds. The ride height of our old ml350 bt and the fast AMG motor of the e. go for the ML. YOU'LL LOVE IT!!! I'm in Toronto too btw.
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