Frank gets new winter boots (pics)
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Frank gets new winter boots (pics)
Ordered new 20" original MB wheels and Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow booties..Mr Winter...bring it !
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I got from dealer..David Morris but here is some interesting info..
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2014 ML63, PORSCHE 997 Turbo Cabriolet, Ferrari F430, Durango HEMI, 93 HD FLSTN, 04 HD FLHTCSE
They look great.
I'm in the process of ordering the same set-up. Im picking up my ML63 tomorrow w/ the optional 21"'s. I had the dealer order the 20" AMG wheels for winter as a 2nd full set (I change out my Porsches myself each December-nokians)
Im looking into tires now. Questions about the tires - What size Scorpion Ice & Snow are those?
So far I asked the dealer about getting the Scorpion "Winter" because I see on Pirellis website they rate the Scorpion "Winter" higher for comfort, dry & snow than their "ice & snow" tire & the "winter" comes in the same size that MB fits normally on the 20" AMG wheels; 265/45.
Is there something about the load, speed rating, etc. that made you get the "ice & snow" over the "winter"? I haven't compared everything yet. Thanks in advance for the help.
Your Truck looks great.
I'm in the process of ordering the same set-up. Im picking up my ML63 tomorrow w/ the optional 21"'s. I had the dealer order the 20" AMG wheels for winter as a 2nd full set (I change out my Porsches myself each December-nokians)
Im looking into tires now. Questions about the tires - What size Scorpion Ice & Snow are those?
So far I asked the dealer about getting the Scorpion "Winter" because I see on Pirellis website they rate the Scorpion "Winter" higher for comfort, dry & snow than their "ice & snow" tire & the "winter" comes in the same size that MB fits normally on the 20" AMG wheels; 265/45.
Is there something about the load, speed rating, etc. that made you get the "ice & snow" over the "winter"? I haven't compared everything yet. Thanks in advance for the help.
Your Truck looks great.
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They look great.
I'm in the process of ordering the same set-up. Im picking up my ML63 tomorrow w/ the optional 21"'s. I had the dealer order the 20" AMG wheels for winter as a 2nd full set (I change out my Porsches myself each December-nokians)
Im looking into tires now. Questions about the tires - What size Scorpion Ice & Snow are those?
So far I asked the dealer about getting the Scorpion "Winter" because I see on Pirellis website they rate the Scorpion "Winter" higher for comfort, dry & snow than their "ice & snow" tire & the "winter" comes in the same size that MB fits normally on the 20" AMG wheels; 265/45.
Is there something about the load, speed rating, etc. that made you get the "ice & snow" over the "winter"? I haven't compared everything yet. Thanks in advance for the help.
Your Truck looks great.
I'm in the process of ordering the same set-up. Im picking up my ML63 tomorrow w/ the optional 21"'s. I had the dealer order the 20" AMG wheels for winter as a 2nd full set (I change out my Porsches myself each December-nokians)
Im looking into tires now. Questions about the tires - What size Scorpion Ice & Snow are those?
So far I asked the dealer about getting the Scorpion "Winter" because I see on Pirellis website they rate the Scorpion "Winter" higher for comfort, dry & snow than their "ice & snow" tire & the "winter" comes in the same size that MB fits normally on the 20" AMG wheels; 265/45.
Is there something about the load, speed rating, etc. that made you get the "ice & snow" over the "winter"? I haven't compared everything yet. Thanks in advance for the help.
Your Truck looks great.
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Re: The 21" winters - I saw the scorpion 21's available for for the ML63 wheel so considered it, read positive comments but whatever a 21" 295/35 tire will do in the snow, ice a 20" 265/45 will do better. Plus in this case MB uses both wheels/ tire sizes from the factory on the ML63 so no concern there about fitment or funny looks. Plan is to use the 21"'AMG wheels w/ factory summer tires for Spring through late Fall. 20" AMG wheels, sensors w/ 265/45 R20 V 108 XL winter tires in winter.
I'm familiar w/ the scorpion "Ice & Snow" they've been around a decade and have an excellent reputation. Pirelli came out with the scorpion "Winter" last year & ranks them the same for ice & wet conditions but Pirelli puts the scorpion "Winter" better than the scorpion "ice & snow" for comfort, dry handling & driving in the snow,,,, newer technology, new tread compound. It's interesting to read about the tech on their site. The "Winter" won last years TUV winter tire test. After some research today & speaking w Pirelli, I'm leaning towards the scorpion "Winter". But Both tires sound like they will get the job done very well.
http://www.pirelli.com/tire/us/en/su...lication%3DSUV
http://www.pirelli.com/mediaObject/p...ION_WINTER.PDF
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They look great.
I'm in the process of ordering the same set-up. Im picking up my ML63 tomorrow w/ the optional 21"'s. I had the dealer order the 20" AMG wheels for winter as a 2nd full set (I change out my Porsches myself each December-nokians)
Im looking into tires now. Questions about the tires - What size Scorpion Ice & Snow are those?
So far I asked the dealer about getting the Scorpion "Winter" because I see on Pirellis website they rate the Scorpion "Winter" higher for comfort, dry & snow than their "ice & snow" tire & the "winter" comes in the same size that MB fits normally on the 20" AMG wheels; 265/45.
Is there something about the load, speed rating, etc. that made you get the "ice & snow" over the "winter"? I haven't compared everything yet. Thanks in advance for the help.
Your Truck looks great.
I'm in the process of ordering the same set-up. Im picking up my ML63 tomorrow w/ the optional 21"'s. I had the dealer order the 20" AMG wheels for winter as a 2nd full set (I change out my Porsches myself each December-nokians)
Im looking into tires now. Questions about the tires - What size Scorpion Ice & Snow are those?
So far I asked the dealer about getting the Scorpion "Winter" because I see on Pirellis website they rate the Scorpion "Winter" higher for comfort, dry & snow than their "ice & snow" tire & the "winter" comes in the same size that MB fits normally on the 20" AMG wheels; 265/45.
Is there something about the load, speed rating, etc. that made you get the "ice & snow" over the "winter"? I haven't compared everything yet. Thanks in advance for the help.
Your Truck looks great.
They are both very good tires...mine are 265-45-R20
I just liked the look of the more aggressive tread and think they may perform better in deep snow than the "winter"
see www.mbwheels.ca for more info
BTW I think ice and snow are on the way out..discontinued...if that makes any difference to you
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Thanks, I hadn't heard that- It does make a difference, I'll only use the winter tires 3 months a year and winter mileage for us is much lower then rest of year, I'll probably have the same winter set-up/tires for a # of years so if I need to replace a single tire or 2 availability "down the road" is important.
I can see Pirellis claim that the "mould profile"/ rounded shoulders of the Winter makes for better dry handling. Quieter too. And if the Winter wasn't better in the Snow (as they claim) then why make another same price snow tire for SUVs? I like the lettering better on the Snow & Ice but they claim the winter is a lighter tire by 2lbs partly because of the new sidewall & way the logos are done. The tread depth on both tires are the same but I like the different tread pattern on the Winter on sizes/widths greater than 255, theres 5 sections instead of 3. Dunno which tire I should go w/.
The 45% of 265 makes for such a taller sidewall then the 35% of the 295, it's a good winter look, bet its a slightly softer ride too.
My dealer gave me a price of $5400 for the 20" AMG wheels, scorpion tires, sensors, high speed balanced. Follow up conversation he said he made a mistake on the price but was honoring it... I didn't make much of it till hearing the pricing here... Thanks for the reply & your awesome pictures. 15 hours 44 minutes till I see my truck. Have a great night.
I can see Pirellis claim that the "mould profile"/ rounded shoulders of the Winter makes for better dry handling. Quieter too. And if the Winter wasn't better in the Snow (as they claim) then why make another same price snow tire for SUVs? I like the lettering better on the Snow & Ice but they claim the winter is a lighter tire by 2lbs partly because of the new sidewall & way the logos are done. The tread depth on both tires are the same but I like the different tread pattern on the Winter on sizes/widths greater than 255, theres 5 sections instead of 3. Dunno which tire I should go w/.
The 45% of 265 makes for such a taller sidewall then the 35% of the 295, it's a good winter look, bet its a slightly softer ride too.
My dealer gave me a price of $5400 for the 20" AMG wheels, scorpion tires, sensors, high speed balanced. Follow up conversation he said he made a mistake on the price but was honoring it... I didn't make much of it till hearing the pricing here... Thanks for the reply & your awesome pictures. 15 hours 44 minutes till I see my truck. Have a great night.
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It's funny/weird to see the differences in what Mb recommends for the same car in two different countries!!
For the ml63 in winter, in 2 countries were it snows a lot:
-in Canada, they say the Pirelli and
-in Switzerland they say Dunlop 3D wtf
What about in Germany lol
For the ml63 in winter, in 2 countries were it snows a lot:
-in Canada, they say the Pirelli and
-in Switzerland they say Dunlop 3D wtf
What about in Germany lol
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Thanks, I hadn't heard that- It does make a difference, I'll only use the winter tires 3 months a year and winter mileage for us is much lower then rest of year, I'll probably have the same winter set-up/tires for a # of years so if I need to replace a single tire or 2 availability "down the road" is important.
I can see Pirellis claim that the "mould profile"/ rounded shoulders of the Winter makes for better dry handling. Quieter too. And if the Winter wasn't better in the Snow (as they claim) then why make another same price snow tire for SUVs? I like the lettering better on the Snow & Ice but they claim the winter is a lighter tire by 2lbs partly because of the new sidewall & way the logos are done. The tread depth on both tires are the same but I like the different tread pattern on the Winter on sizes/widths greater than 255, theres 5 sections instead of 3. Dunno which tire I should go w/.
The 45% of 265 makes for such a taller sidewall then the 35% of the 295, it's a good winter look, bet its a slightly softer ride too.
My dealer gave me a price of $5400 for the 20" AMG wheels, scorpion tires, sensors, high speed balanced. Follow up conversation he said he made a mistake on the price but was honoring it... I didn't make much of it till hearing the pricing here... Thanks for the reply & your awesome pictures. 15 hours 44 minutes till I see my truck. Have a great night.
I can see Pirellis claim that the "mould profile"/ rounded shoulders of the Winter makes for better dry handling. Quieter too. And if the Winter wasn't better in the Snow (as they claim) then why make another same price snow tire for SUVs? I like the lettering better on the Snow & Ice but they claim the winter is a lighter tire by 2lbs partly because of the new sidewall & way the logos are done. The tread depth on both tires are the same but I like the different tread pattern on the Winter on sizes/widths greater than 255, theres 5 sections instead of 3. Dunno which tire I should go w/.
The 45% of 265 makes for such a taller sidewall then the 35% of the 295, it's a good winter look, bet its a slightly softer ride too.
My dealer gave me a price of $5400 for the 20" AMG wheels, scorpion tires, sensors, high speed balanced. Follow up conversation he said he made a mistake on the price but was honoring it... I didn't make much of it till hearing the pricing here... Thanks for the reply & your awesome pictures. 15 hours 44 minutes till I see my truck. Have a great night.
Let me know if I can provide any additional insight
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CL550 & CL55 AMG
I am not a Michelin fan for a number of reasons but based on TireRack bought the XIce Xi3 (noise, comfort, handling) - CL550 - but luv the Bridgestone 970 AS Pole Position for summer.
Tough choices as nowadays most in the same price range are more than adequate and not always discernably different.
Tough choices as nowadays most in the same price range are more than adequate and not always discernably different.
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Very true...many a good tire out there..I have those XIce on my MDX and had Blizzacks on my Caddie..also studded Nokian are good.
But for this truck options are limited because of..1. load / 2. high speed rating / 3. big wheel height
But for this truck options are limited because of..1. load / 2. high speed rating / 3. big wheel height
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True plenty of really good tires out there like you said.
I bought them with the Dunlop 3D... I agree these 20 amg rims look Nice but imo too small on the ml63. Regardless i copied you and i bought the same rims
Your ml with the 21 summer rims look insane specially since you lowered Frank
I bought them with the Dunlop 3D... I agree these 20 amg rims look Nice but imo too small on the ml63. Regardless i copied you and i bought the same rims
Your ml with the 21 summer rims look insane specially since you lowered Frank
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Thanks EVO..
Yes the 20's are too small but the only way to get more sidewall rubber neath Frank for these terribly rough winter roads
Yes the 20's are too small but the only way to get more sidewall rubber neath Frank for these terribly rough winter roads
