Anyone having issues with tires feathering outside and noise
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Anyone having issues with tires feathering outside and noise
I finally have 29k miles on my Michelin Latitude Tour since last year summer and the tires are very noisy despite rotations and good balancing. The tires are feathering with increase wear on the outside shoulders.
I did do a properly alignment last year at my Mercedes dealership when mounting these tires after burning through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 19k miles that led to feathering and noisy ride.
I went to my independent mechanic to re-do the 4WD alignment and they found that all 4 of my toe-in were excessive end of the Mercedes alignment spec. Front left and right were around 2mm toe-in and the rears were around 4 mm toe in each.
That's a lot of toe-in especially for factory setting that could of caused the feathering outside of the tires.
I had them readjust it to .5 mm toe in each front wheels and 1 mm toe-in each rear wheels so that my tires don't feather more and my new set of Michelins will not wear like this when I put them on next month. I also had them decrease my camber a bit at each wheel within Mercedes spec.
Does anyone have any issues with fast tire wear and noisy ride due to tires wearing unevenly?
I did do a properly alignment last year at my Mercedes dealership when mounting these tires after burning through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 19k miles that led to feathering and noisy ride.
I went to my independent mechanic to re-do the 4WD alignment and they found that all 4 of my toe-in were excessive end of the Mercedes alignment spec. Front left and right were around 2mm toe-in and the rears were around 4 mm toe in each.
That's a lot of toe-in especially for factory setting that could of caused the feathering outside of the tires. I had them readjust it to .5 mm toe in each front wheels and 1 mm toe-in each rear wheels so that my tires don't feather more and my new set of Michelins will not wear like this when I put them on next month. I also had them decrease my camber a bit at each wheel within Mercedes spec.
Does anyone have any issues with fast tire wear and noisy ride due to tires wearing unevenly?
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At near 10k my Scorpions and wearing pretty even. Wanted to rotate at 5k but dealer said wait till 10k.
If I were you, I would be going after the dealer for compensation if your tires feathered like that, it is a sign that the alignment is not correct.
After all I have heard, I am getting apprehensive about taking my ML350 BT in for its Service A!
If I were you, I would be going after the dealer for compensation if your tires feathered like that, it is a sign that the alignment is not correct.
After all I have heard, I am getting apprehensive about taking my ML350 BT in for its Service A!
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15k on the factory Continentals. Did a 5 tire cross rotation (SP->RF->RR->LF->LR->SP) at 5k miles and again just now at 15k miles. Nice even and uniform wear.
PS - If I didn't have the full sized spare, the cross rotation pattern would have been the same without the SP position.
PS - If I didn't have the full sized spare, the cross rotation pattern would have been the same without the SP position.
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15k on the factory Continentals. Did a 5 tire cross rotation (SP->RF->RR->LF->LR->SP) at 5k miles and again just now at 15k miles. Nice even and uniform wear.
PS - If I didn't have the full sized spare, the cross rotation pattern would have been the same without the SP position.
PS - If I didn't have the full sized spare, the cross rotation pattern would have been the same without the SP position.
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I finally have 29k miles on my Michelin Latitude Tour since last year summer and the tires are very noisy despite rotations and good balancing. The tires are feathering with increase wear on the outside shoulders.
I did do a properly alignment last year at my Mercedes dealership when mounting these tires after burning through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 19k miles that led to feathering and noisy ride.
I went to my independent mechanic to re-do the 4WD alignment and they found that all 4 of my toe-in were excessive end of the Mercedes alignment spec. Front left and right were around 2mm toe-in and the rears were around 4 mm toe in each. That's a lot of toe-in especially for factory setting that could of caused the feathering outside of the tires.
I had them readjust it to .5 mm toe in each front wheels and 1 mm toe-in each rear wheels so that my tires don't feather more and my new set of Michelins will not wear like this when I put them on next month. I also had them decrease my camber a bit at each wheel within Mercedes spec.
Does anyone have any issues with fast tire wear and noisy ride due to tires wearing unevenly?
I did do a properly alignment last year at my Mercedes dealership when mounting these tires after burning through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 19k miles that led to feathering and noisy ride.
I went to my independent mechanic to re-do the 4WD alignment and they found that all 4 of my toe-in were excessive end of the Mercedes alignment spec. Front left and right were around 2mm toe-in and the rears were around 4 mm toe in each.
That's a lot of toe-in especially for factory setting that could of caused the feathering outside of the tires. I had them readjust it to .5 mm toe in each front wheels and 1 mm toe-in each rear wheels so that my tires don't feather more and my new set of Michelins will not wear like this when I put them on next month. I also had them decrease my camber a bit at each wheel within Mercedes spec.
Does anyone have any issues with fast tire wear and noisy ride due to tires wearing unevenly?
Keep in mind that since the mid 1990’s dealers and alignment shops “full 4 wheel alignment” is now only front and rear Toe adjustment!
There is no front Camber and Caster or rear Camber adjustment facilities.
Excess adjustment of front and rear “Toe” to reduce edge wear only increases the overall wear rate.
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No. It was purchased for a trip to Alaska on the Alaska Highway, where there are long stretches of road with no services; and was carried on a roof rack. Never had to use it, but did not want the possibility of having to drive a long distance on the Alaska Highway on the donut spare pulling a heavy camper trailer. Expensive "insurance", but well worth it.
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Back on topic,
The problem is that the dealership aligned the car too aggressively within the mercedes spec so really I cannot get any reimbursement for that since its "in spec." The alignment was also done more then 1 year ago and with all the potholes and bad winter we had, the alignment is effected more so I cannot go after the dealership. The independent mechanic is so good that I am happy with the new alignment settings and will get the Michelin Latitude tour prorated for premature wear and use it towards a new set this month. Thank guys.
The problem is that the dealership aligned the car too aggressively within the mercedes spec so really I cannot get any reimbursement for that since its "in spec." The alignment was also done more then 1 year ago and with all the potholes and bad winter we had, the alignment is effected more so I cannot go after the dealership. The independent mechanic is so good that I am happy with the new alignment settings and will get the Michelin Latitude tour prorated for premature wear and use it towards a new set this month. Thank guys.
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I have R20 all-season Contentals and airmatic suspension. There is no apparrent excessive wear on either shoulder on the front, however there is outside shoulder wear on the rear tires.
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I wonder if the Airmatic suspension ML class has more aggressive alignment spec compared to the standard suspension ML?? Our 2010 Ml350 with regular suspension had same rim size and same spec Mcihelin tires with even wear on all 4 wheels. I had the dealer do alignment one time on the older Ml350 because of pulling but otherwise not a single set of tire feathered like this 2013 Ml350 with 2 set of tires feathered and ruined. I don't have the alignment spec from the older one for comparisons.
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No. It was purchased for a trip to Alaska on the Alaska Highway, where there are long stretches of road with no services; and was carried on a roof rack. Never had to use it, but did not want the possibility of having to drive a long distance on the Alaska Highway on the donut spare pulling a heavy camper trailer. Expensive "insurance", but well worth it.
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Ml350 bluetec 2014 tire feathering at 25,000 km
Tire feathering at 25,000 km. should start a class action suit
UOTE=Baloo588;6152905]I finally have 29k miles on my Michelin Latitude Tour since last year summer and the tires are very noisy despite rotations and good balancing. The tires are feathering with increase wear on the outside shoulders.
I did do a properly alignment last year at my Mercedes dealership when mounting these tires after burning through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 19k miles that led to feathering and noisy ride.
I went to my independent mechanic to re-do the 4WD alignment and they found that all 4 of my toe-in were excessive end of the Mercedes alignment spec. Front left and right were around 2mm toe-in and the rears were around 4 mm toe in each. That's a lot of toe-in especially for factory setting that could of caused the feathering outside of the tires.
I had them readjust it to .5 mm toe in each front wheels and 1 mm toe-in each rear wheels so that my tires don't feather more and my new set of Michelins will not wear like this when I put them on next month. I also had them decrease my camber a bit at each wheel within Mercedes spec.
Does anyone have any issues with fast tire wear and noisy ride due to tires wearing unevenly?[/QUOTE]
UOTE=Baloo588;6152905]I finally have 29k miles on my Michelin Latitude Tour since last year summer and the tires are very noisy despite rotations and good balancing. The tires are feathering with increase wear on the outside shoulders.
I did do a properly alignment last year at my Mercedes dealership when mounting these tires after burning through a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde in 19k miles that led to feathering and noisy ride.
I went to my independent mechanic to re-do the 4WD alignment and they found that all 4 of my toe-in were excessive end of the Mercedes alignment spec. Front left and right were around 2mm toe-in and the rears were around 4 mm toe in each.
That's a lot of toe-in especially for factory setting that could of caused the feathering outside of the tires. I had them readjust it to .5 mm toe in each front wheels and 1 mm toe-in each rear wheels so that my tires don't feather more and my new set of Michelins will not wear like this when I put them on next month. I also had them decrease my camber a bit at each wheel within Mercedes spec.
Does anyone have any issues with fast tire wear and noisy ride due to tires wearing unevenly?[/QUOTE]
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