M-Class (W166) Produced 2012-2015

ML300 Gas/Petrol 2013-2015 Mystery

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Oct 30, 2020 | 02:00 PM
  #1  
Travis Katz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 2
None yet
ML300 Gas/Petrol 2013-2015 Mystery

Greetings from this newbie, from The Republic of Panama. I am currently very interested in purchasing a petrol V6 4Matic W166. I'm running across ML350's and ML300's, all Petrol. I am having trouble finding definitive information on the ML300. It seems like it could be a non-U.S. market offering from MB. I've read about how the ML400 had a bi-turbo 3.0 liter engine. I don't believe these ML300's I'm seeing here in Panama in online listings have that motor. I'm confused. I don't have any VIN's right now to decode. Online ads here don't have VIN's in them. I'm about an hour drive away from Panama City, where these vehicles all are. I plan to go there sometime next week to see them and certainly I can personally unravel the mystery then. In the interim, do any of you have knowledge of these models and their powertrains? Much appreciated.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2020 | 05:40 PM
  #2  
peter2772000's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,234
Likes: 155
From: Montreal/Cape Coral FL
2012 X6 35i Sport, 2013 ML 350 BT, 2019 4Runner TRD Pro, 2020 CRV-AWD
Generally speaking, the gasoline versions are seen to be reliable. Stay away from diesel
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2020 | 08:27 PM
  #3  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,666
Likes: 4,569
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
Originally Posted by Travis Katz
Greetings from this newbie, from The Republic of Panama. I am currently very interested in purchasing a petrol V6 4Matic W166. I'm running across ML350's and ML300's, all Petrol. I am having trouble finding definitive information on the ML300. It seems like it could be a non-U.S. market offering from MB. I've read about how the ML400 had a bi-turbo 3.0 liter engine. I don't believe these ML300's I'm seeing here in Panama in online listings have that motor. I'm confused. I don't have any VIN's right now to decode. Online ads here don't have VIN's in them. I'm about an hour drive away from Panama City, where these vehicles all are. I plan to go there sometime next week to see them and certainly I can personally unravel the mystery then. In the interim, do any of you have knowledge of these models and their powertrains? Much appreciated.
@Travis Katz I don't think you are comparing apples with apples. ML300 is a W164 diesel. ML350 is a W166 in both gasoline and diesel versions. You need to be very careful which vehicle you are looking at. The diesels have horrendously bad reliability. The gasoline engines are better. Stay away from the diesel engine in the ML300 and ML350 (diesel).
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2020 | 09:48 PM
  #4  
Travis Katz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 2
None yet
Originally Posted by chassis
@Travis Katz I don't think you are comparing apples with apples. ML300 is a W164 diesel. ML350 is a W166 in both gasoline and diesel versions. You need to be very careful which vehicle you are looking at. The diesels have horrendously bad reliability. The gasoline engines are better. Stay away from the diesel engine in the ML300 and ML350 (diesel).
Here's an ad, you be the judge: https://m.encuentra24.com/panama-en/...rucks-used-car
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2020 | 10:50 PM
  #5  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,666
Likes: 4,569
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
Is there a VIN for this vehicle? This is the definitive identifier. WIS shows an ML 300 with M276 3.5L V6. The VIN will answer the question conclusively.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 03:21 AM
  #6  
Travis Katz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 2
None yet
Did you read my original post?

". I don't have any VIN's right now to decode. Online ads here don't have VIN's in them. I'm about an hour drive away from Panama City, where these vehicles all are. I plan to go there sometime next week to see them and certainly I can personally unravel the mystery then. In the interim, do any of you have knowledge of these models and their powertrains? Much appreciated."
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 10:32 AM
  #7  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,666
Likes: 4,569
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
@Travis Katz The diesel powertrains are to be strongly avoided. Strong avoid.

The gasoline engines I am familiar with, in the US market, are the M276 3.5L naturally aspirated V6 and the M276 3.0L twin turbo V6. These are more reliable than the average Mercedes engine. The average Mercedes engine has poor reliability, compared with Toyota or Honda. This means the M276 3.5L and 3.0L will have roughly "average" reliability compared to all vehicle brands. Not the best, but not the worst.

Four cylinder gasoline engines were not available in the US market for W166, to my knowledge.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 02:31 PM
  #8  
we47b1me's Avatar
Super Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 706
Likes: 114
From: Los Angeles, CA
'22 GLE 350 | '15 ML250 | '87 560SL | '19 GLC 300 | '12 C250 (sold) | '02 ML500 | '98 C230
Originally Posted by chassis
Is there a VIN for this vehicle? This is the definitive identifier. WIS shows an ML 300 with M276 3.5L V6. The VIN will answer the question conclusively.
look at the tach in the picture. Easiest way to tell if it's gas or diesel. This is clearly gas.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 02:41 PM
  #9  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,666
Likes: 4,569
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
There are either more photos loaded on the ad listing, or I was too lazy last night to look beyond the first photo.

Good point @we47b1me about the tachometer. Redline is different between the engines, correct?

The underhood photos in the ad clearly show the M276 naturally aspirated V6. What is throwing me is the "300" model designation.

@Travis Katz This vehicle has an above-average reliability engine in it, which is preferred. If the miles/kms, condition and price are acceptable for you, it seems like it might be an OK vehicle.
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 02:44 PM
  #10  
we47b1me's Avatar
Super Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 706
Likes: 114
From: Los Angeles, CA
'22 GLE 350 | '15 ML250 | '87 560SL | '19 GLC 300 | '12 C250 (sold) | '02 ML500 | '98 C230
Originally Posted by chassis
There are either more photos loaded on the ad listing, or I was too lazy last night to look beyond the first photo.

Good point @we47b1me about the tachometer. Redline is different between the engines, correct?

The underhood photos in the ad clearly show the M276 naturally aspirated V6. What is throwing me is the "300" model designation.

@Travis Katz This vehicle has an above-average reliability engine in it, which is preferred. If the miles/kms, condition and price are acceptable for you, it seems like it might be an OK vehicle.
yep -- tach on the diesels on the w166's goes to 6000 and 8000 on the gas. I think 5000 on the diesel w163's.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:54 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE