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Old May 22, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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I think my coilpack packed it in

I was driving home when the check engine light came on. Pulled up to a re light and the car idled funny and it was running extremely rich with black smoke coming out the exhaust. I was a couple of blocks away from my indie shop so I took it there. They're going to scan it this week. What do you guys think happened. It sounds and feels like it's running on 6cylinders with smoke only coming out one exhaust pipe. The check engine light doesn't reset by cycling the ignition.

The next day The tech scanned it and he's getting misfire codes on both sides. This morning it wouldn't start and he's worried it's hydro locked. He's going to pull the plugs. He finds it weird that both sides packed it in at the same time. Do you guys think it's the transformer or the coil packs or both?

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Old May 22, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Bummer! I'd start with the coil packs before the voltage regulator (that rarely goes out) and also replace all 24 spark plugs while they are off. Mine went out as a pair within a month of each other, as have a few other guys, but I'd say replace one and see what happens first. The misfire may be across both banks, but usually there is a consistent cylinder that is misfiring.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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I got the codes from my Indie:



Let me know what you guys think it is.

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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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I had the same problem, both banks went and ignitor module went aswell . £4k down the road every is fine now, mine started with a simple spark plug change. Good luck , I noticed you have a supra aswell. I have a single 6sp wide body myself, running 700hp with built engine . Great cars, pure raw adrenaline rush for me every time I drive it.
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It's very rare both coil packs should go bad, then it's more likely to be the ignition power supply.

Reset the ECU error codes and start the engine again (if possible), then read codes again. Should indicate which cylinders are really affected.

I don't remember which cylinders are in which coil pack, but can check this if you like?

Changing spark plugs on these cars is a risky business, as If one/shop do it wrong they brake/crack the coil pack which will show up later as a faulty unit.

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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RNSL65
It's very rare both coil packs should go bad, then it's more likely to be the ignition power supply.

Reset the ECU error codes and start the engine again (if possible), then read codes again. Should indicate which cylinders are really affected.

I don't remember which cylinders are in which coil pack, but can check this if you like?

Changing spark plugs on these cars is a risky business, as If one/shop do it wrong they brake/crack the coil pack which will show up later as a faulty unit.

RN

That's my indie tech concluded. I have the ignition transformer on order as we speak.

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That sounds ok to me and also the price of the power supply is much lower than the coil pack.

It's very rear that the coil packs will fail on later models (after 2005) except if the shop cracks the coil packs during removal for service of the engine. My personal opinion is that this is the majority reasons they fail.
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Originally Posted by RNSL65
That sounds ok to me and also the price of the power supply is much lower than the coil pack.

It's very rear that the coil packs will fail on later models (after 2005) except if the shop cracks the coil packs during removal for service of the engine. My personal opinion is that this is the majority reasons they fail.
Even after getting a tune?

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Yes, a tune does not put extra load on the ignition system!
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Originally Posted by RNSL65
Yes, a tune does not put extra load on the ignition system!

Then why do the coil packs crap out as soon as you put a tune on the car?

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It seems like that, doesn't it?

Of course, it could be that with all those extra horses under the hood, its the driver who's putting the extra load on the coil packs

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Here's an update:

The car is fixed now. It was the ignition transformer. $900 including labor and it good to go.

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