Maybach 57S or S65 AMG? Which would you prefer and why?
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Maybach 57S or S65 AMG? Which would you prefer and why?
Assuming one would not want to utilize air transportation on a several-month roadtrip throughout the U.S., which car would you rather travel in?
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I am definately going to get an S65. And I'll prbably go ahead and get a 57S when I am in Germany this next month. The car is fantastic. Gotta try one.
And I'll be driving - but whomever is in the back seat is going to enjoy the ride I'd bet!
And I'll be driving - but whomever is in the back seat is going to enjoy the ride I'd bet!
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Standard appointment is solid color silver or black exterior. CF interior trim. I am not sure about this part, but I believe that you have two or three interior color choices standard, as well.
I have gotten AMG to agree to build a customer spec (my exterior and interior color choices and wood trim) Myabach 57 and then take it to AMG to do the 57S conversion. This has taken a year, off and on....
So my answer would be yes, standard trim is CF; but it is possible for one to get the car optioned/spec'd as desired if one asks (or asks for long enough!)....
I want the wood; and my own interior and exterior color choices.... These aren't of my wood or interior color choice -- but you can see the difference between the use of wood and CF in these....
I have gotten AMG to agree to build a customer spec (my exterior and interior color choices and wood trim) Myabach 57 and then take it to AMG to do the 57S conversion. This has taken a year, off and on....
So my answer would be yes, standard trim is CF; but it is possible for one to get the car optioned/spec'd as desired if one asks (or asks for long enough!)....
I want the wood; and my own interior and exterior color choices.... These aren't of my wood or interior color choice -- but you can see the difference between the use of wood and CF in these....
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Interesting that CF comes as standard on the 57S. What are the colors for the interior choices?
I drove a 62 a couple years ago with another MBWorld member down in Florida on Amelia Island....nice little video clip he shot of us us tooling along from his reclined position in the back seat. Good times!
Personally, I like the heft of the W140 platform on which the Maybach is based. It drives beautifully and actually handles pretty decent, even for a 6,000 pound luxo-cruiser.
I drove a 62 a couple years ago with another MBWorld member down in Florida on Amelia Island....nice little video clip he shot of us us tooling along from his reclined position in the back seat. Good times!
Personally, I like the heft of the W140 platform on which the Maybach is based. It drives beautifully and actually handles pretty decent, even for a 6,000 pound luxo-cruiser.
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The very first year it was the silver and the black, both monochromatic - no two-tone - only for the exterior colors. Interior choices were CF with some Piano black lacquer wood trim only; and I believe just Galapagos Grey and Labrador Anthracite (black) for the leather and carpet. They may have offered Maui Pearl, which is an ivory color - but I am not positive about that.
In the second year you again had only the two exterior color treatments. But I do believe that they added the option of going all Piano Black Lacquer wood, or Piano Black with the CF trim. I think that they also expanded interior colors for leather and carpet to include the Maui Pearl and the California Beige (the tan or coffee colored interior you see in one set of my earlier-posted pics. The other, lighter, interior I earlier posted is of the Maui Pearl.)
There are two other interior colors: Maldives Blue (dark blue), and Barrier Reef Red (maroon or burgundy); and there are three other wood trim options: Burl Walnut, Cherry, and Amboyna. The Amboyna looks like walnut in its grain-pattern but is medium in tone (like the laurel in an S550), and is the wood in the earlier post of mine with the grey interior.
It is still my understanding that the other wood choices, the other two interior choices, and the two-tone treatment and other paint choices for the exterior are not standard-order options.
Which raises the question - what is standard about ordering a Maybach? The whole ordering process involves deciding on about 30 different 'standard' color options, plus another 20 interior options! It is a custom order car. They had set the AMG model 57S apart, and did not give the breadth of options available on a 'regular' Maybach 57. Perhaps that has now changed?
BTW, if you ever get a chance, go into a Maybach Studio at a MBZ dealership which has one -- it is quite an experience! The way car ordering should be; and just like ordering in the USA with Maserati, Aston Martin, and Morgan in my experience. If you're going to pay that much for a car, you really should be able to get exactly what you want - and you should be informed of all your options.... They just don't do that here in the States - except in the rare exceptions like with the Maybach, Maserati, Morgan, and Aston Martin. Overseas (at least in Europe in my experience) all of the high-end cars are considered custom order, and you pick out everything - from the colors, to the options, to the engine.
Here are more pics, showing Piano Black Lacquer-only, Maui Pearl, and Galapagos Grey.
In the second year you again had only the two exterior color treatments. But I do believe that they added the option of going all Piano Black Lacquer wood, or Piano Black with the CF trim. I think that they also expanded interior colors for leather and carpet to include the Maui Pearl and the California Beige (the tan or coffee colored interior you see in one set of my earlier-posted pics. The other, lighter, interior I earlier posted is of the Maui Pearl.)
There are two other interior colors: Maldives Blue (dark blue), and Barrier Reef Red (maroon or burgundy); and there are three other wood trim options: Burl Walnut, Cherry, and Amboyna. The Amboyna looks like walnut in its grain-pattern but is medium in tone (like the laurel in an S550), and is the wood in the earlier post of mine with the grey interior.
It is still my understanding that the other wood choices, the other two interior choices, and the two-tone treatment and other paint choices for the exterior are not standard-order options.
Which raises the question - what is standard about ordering a Maybach? The whole ordering process involves deciding on about 30 different 'standard' color options, plus another 20 interior options! It is a custom order car. They had set the AMG model 57S apart, and did not give the breadth of options available on a 'regular' Maybach 57. Perhaps that has now changed?
BTW, if you ever get a chance, go into a Maybach Studio at a MBZ dealership which has one -- it is quite an experience! The way car ordering should be; and just like ordering in the USA with Maserati, Aston Martin, and Morgan in my experience. If you're going to pay that much for a car, you really should be able to get exactly what you want - and you should be informed of all your options.... They just don't do that here in the States - except in the rare exceptions like with the Maybach, Maserati, Morgan, and Aston Martin. Overseas (at least in Europe in my experience) all of the high-end cars are considered custom order, and you pick out everything - from the colors, to the options, to the engine.
Here are more pics, showing Piano Black Lacquer-only, Maui Pearl, and Galapagos Grey.
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Great info, thanks.
Strange, but the color options seem to have a tropical destination / scuba diving ring to them, no?
Barrier Reef Red
Maldives Blue
Galapagos Grey
Maui Pearl
California Beige
My dream 57S would be Black and Silver 2-tone exterior with California beige interior and Piano Wood.......mmmmm.......sounds like a similar color combo on my 300CE (040 Black with silver cladding and Palomino interior with burled walnut).
I'll mull over my dream Maybach while chillin' in the Cayman's.....very soon. Fortunately, my office is about ten minutes from the Maybach dealer.
Strange, but the color options seem to have a tropical destination / scuba diving ring to them, no?
Barrier Reef Red
Maldives Blue
Galapagos Grey
Maui Pearl
California Beige
My dream 57S would be Black and Silver 2-tone exterior with California beige interior and Piano Wood.......mmmmm.......sounds like a similar color combo on my 300CE (040 Black with silver cladding and Palomino interior with burled walnut).
I'll mull over my dream Maybach while chillin' in the Cayman's.....very soon. Fortunately, my office is about ten minutes from the Maybach dealer.
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I'm thinking at this point monochromatic in the new S's Andorite Grey, or two tone in Tectite Grey and Crystal Laurite Silver, with the California Beige or Maui Pearl, and the Burl Walnut.... The last time I did one up I was going with the two-tone Himalaya Greys with the Charcoal or dark grey interior; I've decided now that there's not enough contrast there between the interior and exterior colors.....
I am planning on going to the factory in Germany to take a gander, make the decisions, and order the puppy here within the next month, Chappy.
I will share the car here when it's done.
Go in to the design studio and give me your opinions, Chappy -- I do welcome them....
Yeah, and don't you wish that you had a marketing team with such imaginative ideas? LOL
I am planning on going to the factory in Germany to take a gander, make the decisions, and order the puppy here within the next month, Chappy.
I will share the car here when it's done.
Go in to the design studio and give me your opinions, Chappy -- I do welcome them....
Yeah, and don't you wish that you had a marketing team with such imaginative ideas? LOL
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Yeah, and don't you wish that you had a marketing team with such imaginative ideas? LOL
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=amg+rap
or this one, adapted for DerekFSUs 10.95 quarter-mile record breaker!
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...hlight=amg+rap
Clearly, Mercedes-AMG or Maybach Manufaktur would benefit from my creative genius!
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I'm leaving now to go check them out Chappy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's the Shiznit, Fo' Sho.
Send 'em a demo tape, Chappy -- they have said they want to garner some urban market-share on the two coasts with the new ML and GL......
I think that they were targeting a slightly different market for the Maybach with the tropical islands theme....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's the Shiznit, Fo' Sho.
Send 'em a demo tape, Chappy -- they have said they want to garner some urban market-share on the two coasts with the new ML and GL......
I think that they were targeting a slightly different market for the Maybach with the tropical islands theme....
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Originally Posted by AsianML
Depends if I'm driving or being driven.
If I'm being driven, then definitely the Maybach. It seems more comfortable in the back.
But, if I'm driving, then I'd take the S65.
If I'm being driven, then definitely the Maybach. It seems more comfortable in the back.
But, if I'm driving, then I'd take the S65.
That's exactly what i was thinking.
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Originally Posted by AsianML
Depends if I'm driving or being driven.
If I'm being driven, then definitely the Maybach. It seems more comfortable in the back.
But, if I'm driving, then I'd take the S65.
If I'm being driven, then definitely the Maybach. It seems more comfortable in the back.
But, if I'm driving, then I'd take the S65.
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If I were driving, I'd prefer to take the Rolls Royce Phantom.
If I were riding, I'd prefer to take the Rolls Royce Phantom.
If I were riding, I'd prefer to take the Rolls Royce Phantom.
Am I the only one who dislike the Maybach? It just looks too boring. Havent seen 57s though....
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Am I the only one who dislike the Maybach? It just looks too boring. Havent seen 57s though....
Am I the only one who dislike the Maybach? It just looks too boring. Havent seen 57s though....
If I ever get a Phantom, I'll take Euro delivery around the time of the Gumball Rally. You can be my copilot. Then again, I don't see myself getting a Phantom, since it's about $370k USD.
The Gumball rally is expensive, who would pay for that? Millionaire playboy racers?
I've seen the 57S in person at Pebble Beach in August. Not very impressed. I think that car is too paradoxial, it wants to be a sports car and a limousine at the same time. It needs to make up its mind. No way an almost 6 meter long car can be a sports car anyways.
I also think that the 57S will not necessarily help Maybach sales. It will probably only divert Maybach 57 clients to the 57S. However, if you're looking for a $300k USD limousine, you normally look at Rolls Royce, if you're looking at the Maybach 57S, you've already ruled out the Rolls Royce, the Maybach 57S competitor is the Maybach 57.
The Rolls Royce compeitor does not exist. People who look at these cars don't consider the Maybach as an option.
I'm talking theoretically, of course, there's always an exception.
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I like this guy.
If I ever get a Phantom, I'll take Euro delivery around the time of the Gumball Rally. You can be my copilot. Then again, I don't see myself getting a Phantom, since it's about $370k USD.
The Gumball rally is expensive, who would pay for that? Millionaire playboy racers?
I've seen the 57S in person at Pebble Beach in August. Not very impressed. I think that car is too paradoxial, it wants to be a sports car and a limousine at the same time. It needs to make up its mind. No way an almost 6 meter long car can be a sports car anyways.
I also think that the 57S will not necessarily help Maybach sales. It will probably only divert Maybach 57 clients to the 57S. However, if you're looking for a $300k USD limousine, you normally look at Rolls Royce, if you're looking at the Maybach 57S, you've already ruled out the Rolls Royce, the Maybach 57S competitor is the Maybach 57.
The Rolls Royce compeitor does not exist. People who look at these cars don't consider the Maybach as an option.
I'm talking theoretically, of course, there's always an exception.
If I ever get a Phantom, I'll take Euro delivery around the time of the Gumball Rally. You can be my copilot. Then again, I don't see myself getting a Phantom, since it's about $370k USD.
The Gumball rally is expensive, who would pay for that? Millionaire playboy racers?
I've seen the 57S in person at Pebble Beach in August. Not very impressed. I think that car is too paradoxial, it wants to be a sports car and a limousine at the same time. It needs to make up its mind. No way an almost 6 meter long car can be a sports car anyways.
I also think that the 57S will not necessarily help Maybach sales. It will probably only divert Maybach 57 clients to the 57S. However, if you're looking for a $300k USD limousine, you normally look at Rolls Royce, if you're looking at the Maybach 57S, you've already ruled out the Rolls Royce, the Maybach 57S competitor is the Maybach 57.
The Rolls Royce compeitor does not exist. People who look at these cars don't consider the Maybach as an option.
I'm talking theoretically, of course, there's always an exception.
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Exception here. Close family friend. Hates the RR, Maybach all the way. Doesn't even consider the RR a competitor.
Everybody has their own opinion. But there's definitely a reason why the Rolls Royce outsells the Maybach (although it's not by a very large margin).
I'll say this though. I like the Maybach's brochure much more than the Rolls Royce brochure, but that's about it.
When the dealer demoed the Maybach for me, I found some faults regarding the trim on the Maybach. For example, the wood trim on the rear door of the 62 does not completely go flush with the door on the end (the side where you can't see when the door is closed, the width of the door). There's about a 1 cm gap of nothing, a crater, the wood trim is supposed to extend all the way to the metal frame of the door like the leather trim.
I'm an extremely detailed person, however, i could not find any fault with the Rolls Royce.
I also didn't appreciate the Maybach's suede "nubuck" leather trim. I much rather prefer the Rolls Royce's pebbled leather trim.
But I'm not buying either, so I really can't say too much about either of them.
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There was a very funny programme on BBC, Top Gear. And JeremyClarksson was conviencing some guy (i think it was Simon Cowell, who has RR) that Maybach looks boring, he prefers RR and etc etc, and that guy (SC) replied that on the inside, Maybach just kills RR, because it's much more comfortable and has a much better seats, and that is what most important. He says that when you seat in the first class boeing, you don;t care how it looks, you do care what's inside.
BTW, i have a neighbour that has both cars, Maybach is his, and RR is his wifes, both are driven, so there is a competition between them.
BTW, i have a neighbour that has both cars, Maybach is his, and RR is his wifes, both are driven, so there is a competition between them.
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Am I the only one who dislike the Maybach? It just looks too boring. Havent seen 57s though....
Am I the only one who dislike the Maybach? It just looks too boring. Havent seen 57s though....
I can say I've never driven/been driven in either one and only sat in the Maybach 62. IMO, aside from knowing how much the Maybach costs and what it, I don't really care much for it.
Here in NYC, there are several chauffer driven Maybachs and very few people stop and look. The RR on the onther hand, people always stop and stare. The car has a presence that commands attention
Not to compare, my parents have an old RR Silver Shadow LWB at their house in MI that sits in the garage for the most part to match the grand old English tudor. The car drives like crap but its very comfy and quiet in the back seat.