Help!! Cls 55 AMG w219 rough idle now won't start
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Help!! Cls 55 AMG w219 rough idle now won't start
Hello everyone I am looking for a little insight here on a problem that has occurred, here is a little bit of info.
2006 cls 55 amg with 135,000 KM's K&n air filters, ASP idler pulleys. No supercharger pulley. It is also fully straight piped (Cats deleted to with a x pipe in)
So i live up in canada and the car is parked in the garage for the winter time. I had aqquired another car so I parked the CLS outside for 2 weeks. Temperatures were not abnormally cold -15 degrees C at the most. The car I would regularly start throughout winter on warm days and it would start fine no problems at all.
I started the car to move it back into the garage and the idle was SUPER rough (Almost leaving the car sounding camm'ed) it then sounded like it was going to stall out so i shut it off. It now will not start. There was a cylinder 8 misfire so i checked my plugs. The cylinder 8 plugs were quite black so I replaced them as well the coil pack looked a little bent the round things that connect to the coil. I checked other plugs and they were not bad so i tried again. No go. I changed the Crank position sensor (CPS) before winter as the car would not start when hot, this problem and sound however is way different !
I have checked my
Fuel pump connection under the seat looks fine no burning
Spark plugs
Air filter
Battery upfront
battery in the back
Maf I cleaned and throttle body
I have replaced the AC compressor as well recently as well as the alternator.
Here is a video of when i try to start it.
I am thinking may be the MAF sensor, Fuel Filter, Coil pack (Would it cause this ?), o2 sensors??, Old fuel ?? could the CPS have gone bad? Before I do all of these things I would like to narrow it down rather then throw another 1500$ at it.
It really stumbles me as it started all winter, the car was parked outside for 2 weeks on a slight incline hill, and it seems to be weird that cylinder 8 misfired as its closest to the firewall.
Thanks a ton appreciate the help!
2006 cls 55 amg with 135,000 KM's K&n air filters, ASP idler pulleys. No supercharger pulley. It is also fully straight piped (Cats deleted to with a x pipe in)
So i live up in canada and the car is parked in the garage for the winter time. I had aqquired another car so I parked the CLS outside for 2 weeks. Temperatures were not abnormally cold -15 degrees C at the most. The car I would regularly start throughout winter on warm days and it would start fine no problems at all.
I started the car to move it back into the garage and the idle was SUPER rough (Almost leaving the car sounding camm'ed) it then sounded like it was going to stall out so i shut it off. It now will not start. There was a cylinder 8 misfire so i checked my plugs. The cylinder 8 plugs were quite black so I replaced them as well the coil pack looked a little bent the round things that connect to the coil. I checked other plugs and they were not bad so i tried again. No go. I changed the Crank position sensor (CPS) before winter as the car would not start when hot, this problem and sound however is way different !
I have checked my
Fuel pump connection under the seat looks fine no burning
Spark plugs
Air filter
Battery upfront
battery in the back
Maf I cleaned and throttle body
I have replaced the AC compressor as well recently as well as the alternator.
Here is a video of when i try to start it.
I am thinking may be the MAF sensor, Fuel Filter, Coil pack (Would it cause this ?), o2 sensors??, Old fuel ?? could the CPS have gone bad? Before I do all of these things I would like to narrow it down rather then throw another 1500$ at it.
It really stumbles me as it started all winter, the car was parked outside for 2 weeks on a slight incline hill, and it seems to be weird that cylinder 8 misfired as its closest to the firewall.
Thanks a ton appreciate the help!
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Removed both rear seats, fuel pumps appear to be okay and no fuel leak at all around the rear driver seats.
Tried boosting no go.
Cleaned Throttle body/MAF no go.
I don't get how it all of a sudden did this after starting fine all winter. It must be some type of fuse or something that easily can blow/break. All fluid levels are still perfect.
Tried boosting no go.
Cleaned Throttle body/MAF no go.
I don't get how it all of a sudden did this after starting fine all winter. It must be some type of fuse or something that easily can blow/break. All fluid levels are still perfect.
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pssible ignition module, or accelerator pedal. did you scan it?
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Yes and there was only the cylinder 8 misfire. Is there anyway to test the things you listed, what really stumps me is it sat all winter never driven always started fine then all of a sudden once it was outside 2 weeks. Something the cold has affected =/ It starts to turnover just won't fully. I am frustrated and after a few more things I just may have to have it towed.
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So turns out I bought this CPS here http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mercedes-Crank-Position-Sensor-CLK430-CLK500-CLK55-/130344225537?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e591f0b01
I notice its not a mercedes brand, Should I order a OEM one ? Do you think the cps would cause this issue I'm having Maybe that one already went bad ? It was done in July 2014. Camshaft position sensor ? Anyway to tell
I notice its not a mercedes brand, Should I order a OEM one ? Do you think the cps would cause this issue I'm having Maybe that one already went bad ? It was done in July 2014. Camshaft position sensor ? Anyway to tell
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So turns out I bought this CPS here New Mercedes Crank Position Sensor CLK430 CLK500 CLK55 | eBay
I notice its not a mercedes brand, Should I order a OEM one ? Do you think the cps would cause this issue I'm having Maybe that one already went bad ? It was done in July 2014. Camshaft position sensor ? Anyway to tell
I notice its not a mercedes brand, Should I order a OEM one ? Do you think the cps would cause this issue I'm having Maybe that one already went bad ? It was done in July 2014. Camshaft position sensor ? Anyway to tell
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Hello everyone I am looking for a little insight here on a problem that has occurred, here is a little bit of info.
2006 cls 55 amg with 135,000 KM's K&n air filters, ASP idler pulleys. No supercharger pulley. It is also fully straight piped (Cats deleted to with a x pipe in)
So i live up in canada and the car is parked in the garage for the winter time. I had aqquired another car so I parked the CLS outside for 2 weeks. Temperatures were not abnormally cold -15 degrees C at the most. The car I would regularly start throughout winter on warm days and it would start fine no problems at all.
I started the car to move it back into the garage and the idle was SUPER rough (Almost leaving the car sounding camm'ed) it then sounded like it was going to stall out so i shut it off. It now will not start. There was a cylinder 8 misfire so i checked my plugs. The cylinder 8 plugs were quite black so I replaced them as well the coil pack looked a little bent the round things that connect to the coil. I checked other plugs and they were not bad so i tried again. No go. I changed the Crank position sensor (CPS) before winter as the car would not start when hot, this problem and sound however is way different !
I have checked my
Fuel pump connection under the seat looks fine no burning
Spark plugs
Air filter
Battery upfront
battery in the back
Maf I cleaned and throttle body
I have replaced the AC compressor as well recently as well as the alternator.
Here is a video of when i try to start it.
Cls 55 Amg won't start - YouTube
I am thinking may be the MAF sensor, Fuel Filter, Coil pack (Would it cause this ?), o2 sensors??, Old fuel ?? could the CPS have gone bad? Before I do all of these things I would like to narrow it down rather then throw another 1500$ at it.
It really stumbles me as it started all winter, the car was parked outside for 2 weeks on a slight incline hill, and it seems to be weird that cylinder 8 misfired as its closest to the firewall.
Thanks a ton appreciate the help!
2006 cls 55 amg with 135,000 KM's K&n air filters, ASP idler pulleys. No supercharger pulley. It is also fully straight piped (Cats deleted to with a x pipe in)
So i live up in canada and the car is parked in the garage for the winter time. I had aqquired another car so I parked the CLS outside for 2 weeks. Temperatures were not abnormally cold -15 degrees C at the most. The car I would regularly start throughout winter on warm days and it would start fine no problems at all.
I started the car to move it back into the garage and the idle was SUPER rough (Almost leaving the car sounding camm'ed) it then sounded like it was going to stall out so i shut it off. It now will not start. There was a cylinder 8 misfire so i checked my plugs. The cylinder 8 plugs were quite black so I replaced them as well the coil pack looked a little bent the round things that connect to the coil. I checked other plugs and they were not bad so i tried again. No go. I changed the Crank position sensor (CPS) before winter as the car would not start when hot, this problem and sound however is way different !
I have checked my
Fuel pump connection under the seat looks fine no burning
Spark plugs
Air filter
Battery upfront
battery in the back
Maf I cleaned and throttle body
I have replaced the AC compressor as well recently as well as the alternator.
Here is a video of when i try to start it.
Cls 55 Amg won't start - YouTube
I am thinking may be the MAF sensor, Fuel Filter, Coil pack (Would it cause this ?), o2 sensors??, Old fuel ?? could the CPS have gone bad? Before I do all of these things I would like to narrow it down rather then throw another 1500$ at it.
It really stumbles me as it started all winter, the car was parked outside for 2 weeks on a slight incline hill, and it seems to be weird that cylinder 8 misfired as its closest to the firewall.
Thanks a ton appreciate the help!