Glc63 engine temp issue
got a weird issue with my new glc63s. Getting a cel and dealer tells me it’s a p012880 code. Engine not getting up to temp. Dealer says car is running fine. No temp issue at all. Mercedes says I will meet a software patch to fix it. I was told I wasn’t the only one with this issue. Tried googling this issue but found nothing. Anyone hear anything about this issue? Looks like it may be a while till I get my software patch according to my dealer.




https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...ode-p0128.html
I know it’s been a while but do you remember what fixed your CEL back then. I’m also dealing with the situation. I got a 2021 GLC63s with 42k km.
Thanks




The fault is thrown because its winter and the ECU mapped Tstat is over cooling in Winter and under cooling in Summer.
Over cooling water is the best thing that can happen to help lessen dry-pistons heat soaks. That's a sweet problem to have now... sit on that until summer heat show up.
Overall, consider this "false positive" in Winter as an examplication of poor temp control.
Only if you get this fault in Summer, you'll want to find out why your engine is reported as being "over cooled" AND STILL accumulate extreme heat at the same time.... MOD-0.
Both conditions should be mutually exclusive: either heat or cool not both.
Long story short: this is a "Nervous-Nelly" false service call for a
Stay put until summer.
> Normalizing Heat Mgt:
Instead get interested in cancelling heat soaks so engine no longer run fan to remove heat in winter... duh!
> PARADOXICAL Question:
-- Considering the large size of the engine coolant radiator,
-- How is radiator alone not capable of dropping engine heat in winter ???
> PREMATURE AGING:
-- The topic of heat Mgt is essential to LONGEVITY vs. premature powertrain failures.
-- Extreme heat effectively waste all the engine/tranny seals that become useless at holding pressure.... super leaker.
> INCENTIVES... WHY ???
-- Once you Get Serious Heat Mgt working normally you can give the TT powertrain a great workout without endless repairs or shortlife.
Don't ignore burning oil into rings with EXTREME HEAT.

Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Mar 9, 2025 at 01:07 AM.
My vehicle still has comprehensive warranty till mid April 2025 and another 2 years of limited star warranty. So I will be taking it back tomorrow to deal with it before it’s too late.
I wouldn’t want to drive it with a check engine light anyway because how would you know if another issue that came up and now there are 2 codes?
Also, after paying a prime price for a certified vehicle with low KM, I expect it to be trouble free for some time. That issue came up after 3-4 days of taking delivery!
They changed a thermostat on Thursday and a radiator because they broke the fan mounts. A day later light is back on and same code. I will mention the ECU issue to them tomorrow.
I will keep you posted.
Thanks again
The fault is thrown because its winter and the ECU mapped Tstat is over cooling in Winter and under cooling in Summer.
Over cooling water is the best thing that can happen to help lessen dry-pistons heat soaks. That's a sweet problem to have now... sit on that until summer heat show up.
Overall, consider this "false positive" in Winter as an examplication of poor temp control.
Only if you get this fault in Summer, you'll want to find out why your engine is reported as being "over cooled" AND STILL accumulate extreme heat at the same time.... MOD-0.
Both conditions should be mutually exclusive: either heat or cool not both.
Long story short: this is a "Nervous-Nelly" false service call for a
Stay put until summer.
> Normalizing Heat Mgt:
Instead get interested in cancelling heat soaks so engine no longer run fan to remove heat in winter... duh!
> PARADOXICAL Question:
-- Considering the large size of the engine coolant radiator,
-- How is radiator alone not capable of dropping engine heat in winter ???
> PREMATURE AGING:
-- The topic of heat Mgt is essential to LONGEVITY vs. premature powertrain failures.
-- Extreme heat effectively waste all the engine/tranny seals that become useless at holding pressure.... super leaker.
> INCENTIVES... WHY ???
-- Once you Get Serious Heat Mgt working normally you can give the TT powertrain a great workout without endless repairs or shortlife.
Don't ignore burning oil into rings with EXTREME HEAT.





My vehicle still has comprehensive warranty till mid April 2025 and another 2 years of limited star warranty. So I will be taking it back tomorrow to deal with it before it’s too late.
I wouldn’t want to drive it with a check engine light anyway because how would you know if another issue that came up and now there are 2 codes?
Also, after paying a prime price for a certified vehicle with low KM, I expect it to be trouble free for some time. That issue came up after 3-4 days of taking delivery!
They changed a thermostat on Thursday and a radiator because they broke the fan mounts. A day later light is back on and same code. I will mention the ECU issue to them tomorrow.
I will keep you posted.
Thanks again
Can you inquire about the service record?
Revent change of hand the selling dealer can not fix... what I explained about heat Mgt is beginning to make good sense.
The ECU learns to over cool in anticipation for storred heat getting circulated only above 3500.Rpm.
In winter this scheme sets a code!
Year round it's inefficient at normal driving Rpm.
Lets say dealer gets wise to keep you from trading... they reset the learned Tstat map.
It will stay fixed for 2 Mo then return - Then dealer can claim its normal in summer...
The only way I know how to fix this genuine fault is by circulating piston heat at normal driving Rpm... BUT that's a non-stock experimental setup. A case of warranty exclusion.

Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Mar 9, 2025 at 10:45 PM.
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just a quick update about the P0128 issue. After multiple visits and the replacement of thermostat, radiator (due to tabs breaking), a second system bleed recommended by Benz Germany, coolant shut off valve and both oil separators seals (due to sweating), I picked it up today and drove back to work. On my way home, light came back on. I didn’t scan it yet but I assume same one is back. I will confirm tomorrow.
I am going to push for an ECU replacement if same code is back on.
I'm not sure what else to do other than trying to return it as being a “lemon”. I’ve had it for 3 months and they drove it more than I did lol.
It’s unfortunate that this is happening. Such a good looking SUV, low KM and fully loaded.
Can you inquire about the service record?
Revent change of hand the selling dealer can not fix... what I explained about heat Mgt is beginning to make good sense.
The ECU learns to over cool in anticipation for storred heat getting circulated only above 3500.Rpm.
In winter this scheme sets a code!
Year round it's inefficient at normal driving Rpm.
Lets say dealer gets wise to keep you from trading... they reset the learned Tstat map.
It will stay fixed for 2 Mo then return - Then dealer can claim its normal in summer...
The only way I know how to fix this genuine fault is by circulating piston heat at normal driving Rpm... BUT that's a non-stock experimental setup. A case of warranty exclusion.

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just a quick update about the P0128 issue. After multiple visits and the replacement of thermostat, radiator (due to tabs breaking), a second system bleed recommended by Benz Germany, coolant shut off valve and both oil separators seals (due to sweating), I picked it up today and drove back to work. On my way home, light came back on. I didn’t scan it yet but I assume same one is back. I will confirm tomorrow.
I am going to push for an ECU replacement if same code is back on.
I'm not sure what else to do other than trying to return it as being a “lemon”. I’ve had it for 3 months and they drove it more than I did lol.
It’s unfortunate that this is happening. Such a good looking SUV, low KM and fully loaded.
Returning it is a good way to prevent the nightmare to continue on your dime with no recourse.
MB personnel are forced to strictly follow procedure. It can be fixed but not by standard MB procedure.
Eventually the lemon will be sold as-is at auction and a good mechanic will pin point the issue and a fix to turn up a profit.
+++ At that stage I'd look at ECU data for something out of range related to dault code.
Just about all related parts have been replaced.
On the other hand these engines accumulate extreme heat in dry pistons to "save gas" - Can fault be related to poor heat circulation?
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; May 9, 2025 at 02:19 AM.
Returning it is a good way to prevent the nightmare to continue on your dime with no recourse.
MB personnel are forced to strictly follow procedure. It can be fixed but not by standard MB procedure.
Eventually the lemon will be sold as-is at auction and a good mechanic will pin point the issue and a fix to turn up a profit.
+++ At that stage I'd look at ECU data for something out of range related to dault code.
Just about all related parts have been replaced.
On the other hand these engines accumulate extreme heat in dry pistons to "save gas" - Can fault be related to poor heat circulation?

Forum member Frenetic's GLE 53 was an example.
just a quick update about the P0128 issue. After multiple visits and the replacement of thermostat, radiator (due to tabs breaking), a second system bleed recommended by Benz Germany, coolant shut off valve and both oil separators seals (due to sweating), I picked it up today and drove back to work. On my way home, light came back on. I didn’t scan it yet but I assume same one is back. I will confirm tomorrow.
I am going to push for an ECU replacement if same code is back on.
I'm not sure what else to do other than trying to return it as being a “lemon”. I’ve had it for 3 months and they drove it more than I did lol.
It’s unfortunate that this is happening. Such a good looking SUV, low KM and fully loaded.




-- wrench yourself to fix it. We can help.
-- or pay a shop out of pocket to fix it not using failed MB procedures!
-- else it's a genuine money pit.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; May 10, 2025 at 03:37 PM.




Case in point the marginal engine timings causing poor driveability.
The No1 deal braker is how bottkenecked CAN are able to disfuntion quietly.
Bosch invented CAN Networking, you'd think they could do better to expose much needed troubleshooting metrics in Bosch computers.
Lemons are a by-product.

Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; May 11, 2025 at 01:25 PM.
Case in point the clunky engine causing poor driveability.
The No1 deal braker is how bottkenecked CAN suck quietly.
Bosch invented CAN Networking, you'd think they could do better to expose much needed troubleshooting metrix!





Computers are purpose built systems, not sci-fi machines.
When factory engineers can not troubleshoot disfunctional systems, that's a call for action.
System Mgt computers need system mgt tools.
Xentry coverage fails to help MB support experts...

Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; May 11, 2025 at 02:16 PM.
Computers are purpose built systems, not mystery machines.
When factory engineers can not troubleshoot disfunctional systems, that's a call for action.
System Mgt computers need system mgt tools.
Xentry coverage fail to help MB support specialists.





I keep harassing them every couple of weeks.
Where are you located?
Im in Charlotte NC, I have been harassing them for the last 11 months. I have gotten free service when I needed new tires put on my car though. And I contacted MB Germany who reached out to MB USA and they contacted the dealership for me and also have given me extra shop credits for the inconvenience.
I got 2 prepaid service for free. The warranty left on it was 2 years star warranty, so they upgraded it to 2 years limited warranty and 1 year of star warranty.
I know that at the store level they are trying their best but it’s so inconvenient to deal with this and unfortunately they had to take the front end apart twice when they were trying different parts.
Is your triggering a P0128 code (active, pending and permanent) but vehicle is completely fine?
I got 2 prepaid service for free. The warranty left on it was 2 years star warranty, so they upgraded it to 2 years limited warranty and 1 year of star warranty.
I know that at the store level they are trying their best but it’s so inconvenient to deal with this and unfortunately they had to take the front end apart twice when they were trying different parts.
Is your triggering a P0128 code (active, pending and permanent) but vehicle is completely fine?
Step 1 — Ask for a TAC / Engineering Case
Since this concern has been present long-term and no VIN-released software update is available, I am requesting that this case be escalated to Mercedes-Benz Technical Assistance (TAC) / Engineering for review.
The vehicle repeatedly sets P0128 despite no confirmed mechanical fault, and other owners with the same model/engine have documented the same condition while waiting for a calibration update.
Please open a TAC case and document the findings and guidance provided by engineering.
Dealers cannot ignore a TAC request once stated this way.


