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Fifth Gear Season 22 Episode 8

Mercedes ML63 AMG vs Porsche Cayenne Turbo. Vicky visits Pininfarina and drives the Maserati Gran Turismo MC Stradale.Volkswagen UP undergoes team test. Jason finds out what is the best Bluetooth head set for hands free driving. Vicky shows some Pininfarina designed cars you can buy on a budget.Jonny drives the Morgan 3-Wheeler. Vicky sees Pininfarina's new prototype the Cambiano.

EVOII_Racer

Thanks for the link!

Not such a surprise i am afraid bloody annoying esp
I understand much better now the comment of some w166 amg owners when driving it to the limit....
HopefullY my tuner will be able to find a way to really turn off the esp for track use!


On the positive side the ml63 has an incredible potential, specially considering it didn't have the ceramic brakes and is heavier :-)

jerrym

I really despise Fifth Gear, the host looks like a douche and makes ridiculous remarks. The Cayenne turbo has PCCB's and cost well over 117k

GMW

I am surprised that even without the performance package, the ML63 out accelerated the Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

justthebest

Questionable review - cool to see the ML in motion though, as always.

EVOII_Racer

Justthebest,
Regarding the brakes still being applied even with ESP off like in the video...
could explain why the w166 amg is more difficult at the limit than the w164 amg?

I remember reading a post you made about the w166 being harder to drive at the limit i think

MaryMosby

I wonder what was the verdict of the comparison..which one won the merc's or the porsche.

EVOII_Racer

The Cayenne won... Sportier due to the fact that the esp on the Merc is not really off even when turned off the amg doesn't let you do all the fun...according to the review

Rippin'AV

The ESP thing has always been an issue with AMG vehicles. I saw the episode he did a while ago about the 164 and had a similar opinion but then the Mercedes engineers put in some kind of code to disable it 100%. I would love to know what the engineers did to make that happen. Like justhebest says though...still cool to see it doing the motions around the track.

Cheers,
AV

schmick325

Put it in Dyno mode Tiff, just like you did with the W164 review!

Would kill the Cayenne

ML63 AMG

Moral of the story ... If you want a sports car SUV, buy the W164 ML63 AMG with the 6.3L AMG motor and none of the electronic nannies of the newer version. Not to mention the older ML63 had the much bigger rear brakes for improved stopping power.

With my 2piece brake setup and super light weight wheels & tires, it would trounce the Cayenne even with CCBs. Race track tested & verified

You can pick up a mint one for under $50k easy with extended warranty too