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Old May 5, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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Valentine One Radar Detector V1 1.8 w/POP-2 and Euro Mode

Selling the v1 radar with suction cups, the v1 power cord and windshield mount. Have an extra cord and cups as well. Latest software with Pop2 and Euro mode, can provide serial # upon request, its in the car now.
Looking to get 330 shipped obo.
I have two of these so need to let one go to fund the laser jammer.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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What kind of jammer are you looking at? We have put all of the main ones on the market through testing and only two really shine. So curious what you came up with?
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I went with a Blinder M27 soon to be 47. I know I could've done better, shopped around for a very long time and did my research, wanted to go with the LPP or the LI but got this in a local fast sale. Soo, what 2 really shine?
Anyway, I can easily get asking price on ebay but figured I'd offer it to forum members first. 320shipped guys!
Old May 6, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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I have a Blinder M27 in one of my cars (used to be a Blinder dealer). It works ok, but has failed a few times on the newest guns. But if you are not in a progressive Lidar area like Atlanta, you will probably be fine (they upgrade the guns here like changing underwear) - Once I stop working on clients cars and have time to do my own, I will take out the Blinder and put in the LDP mentioned below.

The two that work the best are the Laser Defense Pro (LDP) and the Laser Intercepter (LI). The LPP is no longer being made. LDP took over the base product and improved it a lot. Blinder came in 3rd, so still a solid choice.
Old May 6, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Lidar is my primary concern as I have a couple citations from the wonderful unit. You're saying M27 isnt good with it? That can be really not good..
Old May 6, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Lidar is the name for any form of laser speed detection. The Blinder works pretty good... don't get me wrong. It just did not perform like the LI or LDP.
The new Stalker gun it does not do well at all against. But all the others it works pretty decent. It is kind of like poor, good, better, best
I would rank them like this:
K40 = Poor
Escort Passport 9500 = Good (radar is one of the best though, laser stinks)
Blinder = Better
LI and LDP = Best
Old May 6, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Thanks for your input! Now I just needa roll up to a state trooper and ask if theyre using the Stalker gun yet. What are the odds of that..?
I get shot with laser regularly so would hate to do this and get nailed again on a huge road for going 50 in a 35.
The LI and LDP also cost double what I paid for the M27.
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The two that work the best are the Laser Defense Pro (LDP) and the Laser Intercepter (LI). The LPP is no longer being made. LDP took over the base product and improved it a lot. Blinder came in 3rd, so still a solid choice.
Does the LDP have multiple front and rear hidden sensors? Authorities here look at the license plate(s) for sensors and covers of any type. Any object or cover that the authority judges an "obstruction" is considered a violation. This is based personal and friends' experience ad nauseum.

Can I keep my Valentine and still use the LDP? Do they interfere with each other? (Your video has an Escort mentioned - what does this do?)

Radar is still the main technology in the Northeast. We have lots of radar sneakies in the Northeast that only the V1 uncovers so I will not switch to another brand.

Oh yes the authorities "pool" the Lidar units since there are only a few Lidars to go around. They will have one or two units per shift/regions only but many times the authorities in the field. Consider that that they all "sign out" the same Lidar unit but have instant on radar in the car only. Sometimes they stand outside the car so it appears that they have a "gun." You get zapped and the V 1 (substitute the detector of your choice) indicates radar only, not Lidar. However, they write "Lidar Gun Brand Q #1243 at 927 feet" on the ticket so one can't beat it. That actual gun is miles away with a different individual. How do you fight this?

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How about a group buy for the units? Usually electronics are 40 point lines.

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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Radar is quickly being replaced with Laser around the country for many reasons, but will never be fully replaced. The bottom line is there is basically ZERO defense on a Laser ticket. They are targeting your specific vehicle through what amounts to a gun sight.
The LDP does not use license plate sensors at all. They are small transponders about the size of a box of wooden matches. They are normally mounted in recessed areas of the grill/intakes/etc.
If you are pulled over for some reason, it also comes with a manual that discusses their use as parking sensors and never mentions speed avoidance. This can be shown to the officer and simply apologize that it interfered with his attempt at getting a reading. Or slow down and hit the reset button and let him get a reading. Either way, it has not been a problem for our clients. Mounting location (hidden from obvious view), and the fact that they don't look like the obvious Escort style transponders has not resulted in any problems so far.
The V1 is a great detector, but getting long in the tooth. I am disappointed that Valentine has not integrated any new features in over 15 years. The V1 and the Escort 9500ix perform exactly the same on side by side tests. I have both personally. I have started to prefer the 9500ix due to its GPS abilities to knock out false signals without having to press the mute all the time. But they perform exactly the same otherwise.

Laser defense systems and detectors like the V1 do not interfere in any way.

We can set up a group buy, but most automotive electronics are not anywhere near 40 point items. They are pretty low margin actually, but if we approach manufacturing with a larger order we can probably get a little more wiggle room. I bet we can get 12-15 points off with 20 plus units at one time.
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Yeah V1 is the way to go, I had a 9500i and 9500ix too but ended up with the 2 V1's.

Cartronics, bottom line...is the Blinder a good decision? I already have it and appointment for install on Monday at a reputable shop.
Old May 6, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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E55Dimon - If you already have it, and returning it is a big issue, I would go ahead and install it myself. With this basic assumption, that the unit is currently updated to the latest software release!!! VERY important

For you guys that are REALLY into is - you can combine a GPS detector (like the 9500ix) with a Tricplate for the ULTIMATE in red light/ speed camera protection. It can add, up... but it has saved me at least that much in the last year in tickets. (I am not what you consider a conservative driver)
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E55Dimon - If you already have it, and returning it is a big issue, I would go ahead and install it myself. With this basic assumption, that the unit is currently updated to the latest software release!!! VERY important

For you guys that are REALLY into is - you can combine a GPS detector (like the 9500ix) with a Tricplate for the ULTIMATE in red light/ speed camera protection. It can add, up... but it has saved me at least that much in the last year in tickets. (I am not what you consider a conservative driver)
Cartronics, Don't want to jump this thread, but, I have to ask...... is the 9500CI a good way to go as a combination of all this ? it is more expensive .
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For you guys that are REALLY into is - you can combine a GPS detector (like the 9500ix) with a Tricplate for the ULTIMATE in red light/ speed camera protection. It can add, up... but it has saved me at least that much in the last year in tickets. (I am not what you consider a conservative driver)
Where are red light/speed cameras used and what is their detection technology?

What is a Tricplate? How does it work?

Question that may not make sense: Is there any way to turn on the Parktronic system so it transmits all the time? Is it the correct Lidar frequency?

Thanks for the answers.

When I know there is a fixed radar solar powered unit (ordinary detectors pick it up and it keeps the speed down) that say 1 signal and then a 2 signal appears I know there is a lurker.

Wouldn't a GPS unit ignore this situation since it "learned" there is a bogus signal there? These bogus units are mobile and moved often. Then the real bogie takes its location. Would a GPS unit ignore this?

Just asking.
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Poor Cartronics lol

Someone buy my radar!
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sunpointair - the 9500ci is good for RADAR only. However, NOTHING beats having the detector high on the windshield (put it in the headliner for stealth if you want). The Laser part does not fair well in independent testing by us and others.

grane - red light camera use the magnetic road technology most of the time, or laser/radar for motion detection only - so that they snap a picture. You can see the Tricplate video on our site. It has a lens that turns opaque at the flip of a switch (or signal from a detector..hehe) then goes clear again just as quick.
Parktronic is ultrasonic. Put your ear next to one when the car is on, and you will hear a faint clicking sound. - not good for anything else.
GPS detectors not only learn the location, but also the type of signal. Actual police radar is different than the speed warning signs. So if the signal signature and GPS don't match, they go off. In fact, they use them on my street and they keep moving them and repacing them (new school on the street). When they replace one with another, the signatures don't match and it goes off again.
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I know a couple of old school guys in my group that would want the V1... Send me a PM and I will buy it from you
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Bump. Still got it, 310shipped.
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grane - red light camera use the magnetic road technology most of the time, or laser/radar for motion detection only - so that they snap a picture. You can see the Tricplate video on our site. It has a lens that turns opaque at the flip of a switch (or signal from a detector..hehe) then goes clear again just as quick.
GPS detectors not only learn the location, but also the type of signal. Actual police radar is different than the speed warning signs. street). When they replace one with another, the signatures don't match and it goes off again.[/QUOTE]

The portable radar units I am referring to are not speed signs. Some are constantly moved. Meanies hide behind them and use them to mask their signals. If a Gps unit learns the location of one, ignores it, Officer Pup is there to greet you.

Thanks for the info on the cover.
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grane - they do the same here too ... BUT, the GPS radar detector unit will NOT ignore it, as it will ignore the portable sign unit, but will not ignore the police gun as it has a different signature. Every single radar gun has a different signature, wether it is a sign or handheld unit....all are different. That is why the GPS feature is so useful and cool.

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