asg

How long should I wait before getting an ECU Upgrade on a new S600??

Also can't decide between Renntech or Brabus

Cops_h8_me!

Go for Powerchip www.powerchipgroup.com its much better value and works just as good as the others.

Fast install as well and you can buy it from www.evosport.com as well.

Hope this helps.

Andrew-NY

I really disagree with you. The Renntech and kleeman upgrade is much better than the others because they also upgrade the TCU, which makes a big difference. If the price is unimportant, then go with Renntech.

I did the Renntech ECU/TCU upgrade on my CL600 and the difference is very noticeable. I looked into Powerchip and decided it was worth it to spend the extra money for Renntech.

asg

I am tying to see the difference between the Renntech and Brabus ones. Both have a location down here and that is important to me, since there is bound to be an issue at some point and they both have a good relationship with the dealers here.

Acez

screw the brabus. their performance figures aint worth the money. go for renntech bro!!

Easy $

Renntech....period. Brabus makes great parts, and there ECU flash is great. It is also about $10-12,000. For all out power, transmission upgrade with shorter shift times and tire shreading speed.....renntech all the way. Helmut was the man for AMG for many years, and continues to send out very fast yet drivable high horsepower cars.

Chris

asg

CEC told me that the Brabus HP numbers are quoted at the rear wheels.

vraa

They sell Brabus -- psh.
Go RENNtech buddy, you'll find so many RENNtech users on this forum.

OCKlasse

http://speedinnovation.com/


My car is a 98 C230 non kompressor with roughly ~155hp stock. All I had was a custom built cold air intake, and SI was able to extract 16 lb ft. of torque to the wheels! Imagine what he could do you for with eight more cylinders and two turbos

sdunham

The ECU upgrade I just looked at for the W209 CLK on the Renntech website says "10 horsepower gain for $1795...! " ... If that's accurate, I'd really find that hard to rave about...

rays cl55

I would agree with OCKlasse, go with the Speed Innovation. Best bang for the buck on the market!

I have used them on a few of my cars.

StealthAuto

ASG, if you have any questions in regards to Powerchip don't hestitate to ask, I'll be glad to help.

Of the 2 companies you mentioned, both are excellent tuners and have an excellent product, though a little pricey.


Now I see why you're coming in to each Powerchip thread and talking bad about them. I just want to say don't knock something you haven't tried yourself. It spreads false information.

I myself would stick with Powerchip software as they've been around for 15+ years and are veterans in the tuning world. A company that has been around no-longer than 2 years and has no contact (I now found a contact, sorry) info will not be touching my $100,000 car; sorry.

There's a reason why Powerchip has been tested in Road & Track magazine and European Car to name a few. Simply said, they're good at what they do.

mig888

Funny you should spread some false information yourself - I wonder how JLevi knows where to get SpeedInnovation software?

Why dont you sit back and realize there is an alternative to Powerchip instead of badmouthing a legitimate product YOU haven't tried yourself? There could be things out there as good or better (gasp!) - kind of like "prodigy child" companies rising to the challenge.

Please don't fear competition - this is good for the consumer. You think we don't notice?

Let it be.

StealthAuto

I am well aware of alternatives to Powerchip software and give credit to reputable companies that provide safe tunes. See my post above.

Additionally, my only objection to Rays CL55 is that he came into a Powerchip thread I created, knowing he wasn't interested in their software given the fact that he "already has SI software in a few of his vehicles and is very satisfied", then attempted to degrade me and prove me wrong. If you're not interested in a product, there's no reason to enter a thread which is solely on THAT product. There are obviously some hidden intentions there.

I have no fear for the competition, trust me.

I will let it be though.

rays cl55

Keep in mind that the data on that post didn't match up. So all I was pointing out to you was that.

I dont like Powerchip as much as some of MBworld members dont like SI. We all have our own reasons. But isn't this a place where we can express our own opinions?

benzosnenzos

i myself have an slk350 and am looking for an ecu upgrade on another thread, i looked into mkb..i was explained that the company may be pulling my chain...however another post in the thread told me to check speed innovation and i couldnt find any performance specs or prices.........any help?

Nick@JleviSW

Pricing for your SLK350 is normally $600 even installed. We are offering an introductory special for $570. You should expect an 18HP/24TQ gain on 91OCT and a 21HP/29TQ gain on 93OCT.

Feel free to contact us with any questions!

sales@jlevisw.com
1.888.JLEVISW
AIM: Nick at JSW or Jlevi SW

Cops_h8_me!

It looks like MIG888 is the owner of Speed Innovation. He got called out in another thread...

Although its not very typical of a 'prodigy child' company that is rising to the challenge!?! (whatever that means!)

Tommy_s4

Look, powerchip is awsum. Its great if you dont want to drive you car. I had it done to my car and it was perfect. I couldn't drive for a week i sent it back twice, and when i got it back they told me to undue everything they did to get my car to run. It was great! Then after i got my car to start I had to take it to the dear because everything was F'd up. After that i got my car back 3 days latter with a 300+ bill in repairs to everything powerchip F'd up

Look, powerchip is the generic answer to car tuning. But honestly, if your going to get surgery do you go to a random docter or a specilist. You go to a specilist. So why cheap out on your car, go renntech. They know what their doing, they do 1000's of benz's. So dont bother with powerchip. It f"d up my car and i'm sure you dont wana go through that.

StealthAuto

Thanks for your input, however, I do not see how "Powerchip", an engine software developer can be held accountable for mechanical parts that break on your older vehicle; problems that are completely unrelated to any tuning parameters.

Also, you're absolutely correct in your above statement which reads "if you're going to surgery do you go to a random doctor or a specialist, you go to a specialist". Powerchip has been only tuning European vehicles for the past 15 years, which qualifies them as a specialist in every sense of the word. Any company that spreads all of their resources out into numerous areas will not be as good as a company that focuses on one thing, and only one thing, for 15+ years.

Pertaining to your own analogy, when you need brain surgery do you go see your general physician or your brain specialist? You see the brain specialist. When it comes to vehicles and their brains (ECU's), Powerchip is the specialist.

PS.. Mig888 (Jessie) Glad to see you chimed in!

OCKlasse

When you give the analogy of Specialists, and sticking to one particular vehicle, wouldn't Renntech be the quintessential "Specialist" considering they do modifications on Mercedes alone? Wouldn't their knowledge of the brand make them the best?

StealthAuto

The knowledge is not of the vehicle brand it's of the ECUs. Since almost all European vehicles use either a Bosch or Siemens ECU, that's what's important to know about for tuning, not the vehicle make itself including how the aerodynamics work, the brakes, exhaust, etc..

By understanding the dynamics of those 2 ECUs and being able to work with them you can in essence tune any vehicle that uses those ECUs, given you have the proper equipment, which we of course do.