610 hp kleemann CL 55 S/C.......
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610 hp kleemann CL 55 S/C.......
Ok, well I just got off the phone with Kleeman Headquarters in Colorado Springs. I asked him about upgrading my 2003 CL55 that will be arriving in a few short months and if they were planning any upgrades for the car. Well, they are. Replacing the whole supercharger unit and he says they have a prototype on a SL55 in Denmark right now that has 610h.p.!!! He told me Mercedes' supercharger is very inefficient and the engine is very capable of more power without any risk of harming it.
.!!! He told me Mercedes' supercharger is very inefficient and the engine is very capable of more power without any risk of harming it.
Man !!! The jokes continues................
Mercedes went out and S/C a 5000 pounds car that can do 0-60 in 4.4s and Kleemann said that Mercedes S/C is very inefficient..???!!! LOL..lol..anything to make a sale !!!
the engine is very capable of more power without any risk of harming it.
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Linh,
This is another classic case of you not reading more than a couple lines. I would think with all the time you spend trying to attack Kleemann and myself that you would have been able to read posts in their entirety. I can't count the number of posts that Cory has made in the past month about Kleemann having a warranty by the end of this year.
Inefficient, well yes. Effeciency is easily defined as making the most with what you have. Kleemann is making 640HP out of the new 55k engines by putting their supercharger and intercooler on. If they are making more off the same engine, are they not more efficient?
Give it a rest. Most likely the CL55 and SL55 will have traction problems with 640HP. But again, you fail to realize that not everyone cares about 0-60 numbers. Even more, some people love traction problems! I have a customer who will not drive over 80mph, but being able to spin his tires to 80 is very important to him. He doesn't care about what his quarter-mile on street tires is, because he drives the car. And 640HP in a heavy CL is not the same as 640HP in a CLK. The CL will have more weight to help add traction.
This is another classic case of you not reading more than a couple lines. I would think with all the time you spend trying to attack Kleemann and myself that you would have been able to read posts in their entirety. I can't count the number of posts that Cory has made in the past month about Kleemann having a warranty by the end of this year.
Inefficient, well yes. Effeciency is easily defined as making the most with what you have. Kleemann is making 640HP out of the new 55k engines by putting their supercharger and intercooler on. If they are making more off the same engine, are they not more efficient?
Give it a rest. Most likely the CL55 and SL55 will have traction problems with 640HP. But again, you fail to realize that not everyone cares about 0-60 numbers. Even more, some people love traction problems! I have a customer who will not drive over 80mph, but being able to spin his tires to 80 is very important to him. He doesn't care about what his quarter-mile on street tires is, because he drives the car. And 640HP in a heavy CL is not the same as 640HP in a CLK. The CL will have more weight to help add traction.
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linh,
come on man, i know you are smarter than this, youre a smart guy, but posts like this dont support my theory on your intelligence. you know exactly why the kleemann S/C is more efficient than the AMG one, why argue about it? and lets face it, i dont know if the new 55K engine in the SL and CL has 610hp, ive got no clue, but neither do you! how about we wait until we have facts to criticize huh?
come on man, i know you are smarter than this, youre a smart guy, but posts like this dont support my theory on your intelligence. you know exactly why the kleemann S/C is more efficient than the AMG one, why argue about it? and lets face it, i dont know if the new 55K engine in the SL and CL has 610hp, ive got no clue, but neither do you! how about we wait until we have facts to criticize huh?
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I just don't understand, why play games and upgrade an AMG when you can just get a car that already has 610hp from the factory with a warranty. Linh, should I keep her or trade her in for the new Enzo?
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I just don't understand, why play games and upgrade an AMG when you can just get a car that already has 610hp from the factory with a warranty. Linh, should I keep her or trade her in for the new Enzo?
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Hey Sleestack,
Did i said that it was just my "OPINION" !!! Can you respect that my friend? I said that because it got an F1 nose, just like the new Slk (R171). The F50 is the most AWESOME looking car for me.
Did i said that it was just my "OPINION" !!! Can you respect that my friend? I said that because it got an F1 nose, just like the new Slk (R171). The F50 is the most AWESOME looking car for me.
Buellwinkle, the new Enzo is UGLY in my opinion. Keep her my friend !!! Kleemann, you want to RACE?? lol.....
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Lihn: Did you see Enzo in person? Hmmm.... Probably not. Sorry my friend, but do not make judgement intil you see it live.
My tastes are exactly opposite. I hate F50, looks like riced out Ferrari. Funny, I kind of liked it in pictures and hated in person. Enzo is actually opposite. I hated in pictures and love in person.
My tastes are exactly opposite. I hate F50, looks like riced out Ferrari. Funny, I kind of liked it in pictures and hated in person. Enzo is actually opposite. I hated in pictures and love in person.
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Lihn: Did you see Enzo in person? Hmmm.... Probably not. Sorry my friend, but do not make judgement intil you see it live. My tastes are exactly opposite. I hate F50, looks like riced out Ferrari. Funny, I kind of liked it in pictures and hated in person. Enzo is actually opposite. I hated in pictures and love in person.
I agreed with you about about the F50 look like "rice racer" but that one of the reason why i like it but i respect your opinion. I'm sure alot Lamborginni owner would agreed too. That's problemly why bought Lamborginni instead Ferrari. So my friend, who has better taste in style? Ferrari or Lamborginni owner? You get my points? Why i bought the Clk and not the C32 like you did? I personally like the Clk 430 because it look better then the C32 and it give you that high class look where you don't get it in a C- Class. Just my opinion again.
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Originally posted by linh
Vadim,
I agreed with you about about the F50 look like "rice racer" but that one of the reason why i like it but i respect your opinion. I'm sure alot Lamborginni owner would agreed too. That's problemly why bought Lamborginni instead Ferrari. So my friend, who has better taste in style? Ferrari or Lamborginni owner? You get my points? Why i bought the Clk and not the C32 like you did? I personally like the Clk 430 because it look better then the C32 and it give you that high class look where you don't get it in a C- Class. Just my opinion again.
Vadim,
I agreed with you about about the F50 look like "rice racer" but that one of the reason why i like it but i respect your opinion. I'm sure alot Lamborginni owner would agreed too. That's problemly why bought Lamborginni instead Ferrari. So my friend, who has better taste in style? Ferrari or Lamborginni owner? You get my points? Why i bought the Clk and not the C32 like you did? I personally like the Clk 430 because it look better then the C32 and it give you that high class look where you don't get it in a C- Class. Just my opinion again.
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Linh, correct me if i am wrong but uh.....the C32 wasnt out when you bought your CLK.....which i guess made the decision between the two even easier!!!
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Originally posted by linh
I pay $50,000 CASH (i can proof it) for a used 01' Clk 430, so what are you talking about? Yes..CASH!!! It hard to believe anyone would pay CASH for a car specially living in this country when the majority people are "leasing".
I pay $50,000 CASH (i can proof it) for a used 01' Clk 430, so what are you talking about? Yes..CASH!!! It hard to believe anyone would pay CASH for a car specially living in this country when the majority people are "leasing".
ok now im convinced you dont even read what other people post......
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Petie,
I did read your post my friend but i just give you more info then you asked for...lol. I bought my car used, so the C32 was already out when i bought my Clk !! Understood now......??
I did read your post my friend but i just give you more info then you asked for...lol. I bought my car used, so the C32 was already out when i bought my Clk !! Understood now......??
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Originally posted by linh
Petie,
I did read your post my friend but i just give you more info then you asked for...lol. I bought my car used, so the C32 was already out when i bought my Clk !! Understood now......??
Petie,
I did read your post my friend but i just give you more info then you asked for...lol. I bought my car used, so the C32 was already out when i bought my Clk !! Understood now......??
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Linh:
I can't figure out which is your favorite tactic to employ when you don't like the question or are obviously beginning to lose an argument. You appear to equally favor changing the subject to something which bears no resemblance to the topic being discussed, or just claim to be kidding. Reasonable discussion and disagreement are part of the freedom of this country and this forum. It appears to me that you just like to disagree for disagreements sake. Do us all a favor and read and understand a post before you submit one of your immature, vitriolic, totally off the wall replies.
I can't figure out which is your favorite tactic to employ when you don't like the question or are obviously beginning to lose an argument. You appear to equally favor changing the subject to something which bears no resemblance to the topic being discussed, or just claim to be kidding. Reasonable discussion and disagreement are part of the freedom of this country and this forum. It appears to me that you just like to disagree for disagreements sake. Do us all a favor and read and understand a post before you submit one of your immature, vitriolic, totally off the wall replies.
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Originally posted by linh
Thank you my friend for the cookies.........
Thank you my friend for the cookies.........
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Lol...lol.....lo. that's funny man !!!
Mark,
I can have an argument and turn it into a joking at the same time. I never take anything discussion serious in this forum, my friend.
Mark,
I can have an argument and turn it into a joking at the same time. I never take anything discussion serious in this forum, my friend.
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Originally posted by linh
Lol...lol.....lo. that's funny man !!!
Lol...lol.....lo. that's funny man !!!
if you are ever feeling too good about yourself and need someone to make fun of you, im always here to help you out....
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Linh:
No problem with having a discussion and having a joke and not taking anything seriously, but you should attempt to use logic and rationality in the process. You respond in an angry, irrational manner and when someone calls you on it, you respond "only kidding". I'm not angry with you, but some of the other people are and I get the feeling you really are not the kind of guy who wants to **** people off. Lighten up
No problem with having a discussion and having a joke and not taking anything seriously, but you should attempt to use logic and rationality in the process. You respond in an angry, irrational manner and when someone calls you on it, you respond "only kidding". I'm not angry with you, but some of the other people are and I get the feeling you really are not the kind of guy who wants to **** people off. Lighten up
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OK guys, let's get back on topic...
Kleemann will soon be releasing a supercharger and intercooler upgrade for the new AMG 55k engines. Boost will be raised to .9 bar, as these motors are built for boost, and can handle it. The supercharger and intercooler will be upgraded to keep intake charge temperatures low in order to increase power and avoid detonation. Horsepower numbers are around 640HP, which is perfect for merging and changing lanes in your morning commute to work!
Kleemann will soon be releasing a supercharger and intercooler upgrade for the new AMG 55k engines. Boost will be raised to .9 bar, as these motors are built for boost, and can handle it. The supercharger and intercooler will be upgraded to keep intake charge temperatures low in order to increase power and avoid detonation. Horsepower numbers are around 640HP, which is perfect for merging and changing lanes in your morning commute to work!
