Title Fight - Kleemann v. HPS
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Originally posted by Petie
Pocholin,
If you would like the opinion of an owner of the HPS S/C on a 55, you could always ask Timster about his experiences with it.....or maybe HPS would like to comment on how the car performed........................
Pocholin,
If you would like the opinion of an owner of the HPS S/C on a 55, you could always ask Timster about his experiences with it.....or maybe HPS would like to comment on how the car performed........................
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HPS so what is ur reason for not showing up? other than your weak lame excuse of chattin with ladies and drinkin' beer @ 11am in macdonalds restaurant? i mean the majority of the ppl here in this forum konw that ur product is less expense thus less result might be expected. i think its a good oppurtunity for you, one, to compete with a kleemann system and prove soemthing since u and cory were having such a hot arguement, and second, for you to have more publicity which might bring you more businese, its a win-win situation if you ask me and you call yourself a marketing guy, and it is just an awesome way to educate our fellas in the forum. Heck, even if you do get a "pounding" from the kleemann system it will not mean that your system is horrible becuz is it half the price right, and ppl that are intested in your product will still be in your product. SHOW UP and wow the crowd!
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I guess HPS did not show, I was thinking of getting the HPS system, but like everyone here, not enough info on it...
I e-mail them about 1 month ago asking for more detail info and some of their customers that I can talk to... still have not heard back from them...
I think I will have to come up with the extra $6K and get the Kleemans....
I e-mail them about 1 month ago asking for more detail info and some of their customers that I can talk to... still have not heard back from them...
I think I will have to come up with the extra $6K and get the Kleemans....
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Originally posted by xyzpl
I guess HPS did not show, I was thinking of getting the HPS system, but like everyone here, not enough info on it...
I e-mail them about 1 month ago asking for more detail info and some of their customers that I can talk to... still have not heard back from them...
I think I will have to come up with the extra $6K and get the Kleemans....
I guess HPS did not show, I was thinking of getting the HPS system, but like everyone here, not enough info on it...
I e-mail them about 1 month ago asking for more detail info and some of their customers that I can talk to... still have not heard back from them...
I think I will have to come up with the extra $6K and get the Kleemans....
You may want to hold off on that HPS... Read here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=21875
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Originally posted by xyzpl
I guess HPS did not show, I was thinking of getting the HPS system, but like everyone here, not enough info on it...
I e-mail them about 1 month ago asking for more detail info and some of their customers that I can talk to... still have not heard back from them...
I think I will have to come up with the extra $6K and get the Kleemans....
I guess HPS did not show, I was thinking of getting the HPS system, but like everyone here, not enough info on it...
I e-mail them about 1 month ago asking for more detail info and some of their customers that I can talk to... still have not heard back from them...
I think I will have to come up with the extra $6K and get the Kleemans....
follow up weekly. HPS has many happy testimonials that we can share.
Performance and Customer Satisfactions is one of the many virtues HPS strives for.
www.myhps.com
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Originally posted by HPS
That is a really surprise, since I return potential customers emails within 24 hours and
follow up weekly. HPS has many happy testimonials that we can share.
Performance and Customer Satisfactions is one of the many virtues HPS strives for.
www.myhps.com
That is a really surprise, since I return potential customers emails within 24 hours and
follow up weekly. HPS has many happy testimonials that we can share.
Performance and Customer Satisfactions is one of the many virtues HPS strives for.
www.myhps.com
I can send you up 50 pages worth of information if you like?
www.myhps.com
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Originally posted by awiner
You may want to hold off on that HPS... Read here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=21875
You may want to hold off on that HPS... Read here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=21875
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Originally posted by tango
HPS so what is ur reason for not showing up? other than your weak lame excuse of chattin with ladies and drinkin' beer @ 11am in macdonalds restaurant? i mean the majority of the ppl here in this forum konw that ur product is less expense thus less result might be expected. i think its a good oppurtunity for you, one, to compete with a kleemann system and prove soemthing since u and cory were having such a hot arguement, and second, for you to have more publicity which might bring you more businese, its a win-win situation if you ask me and you call yourself a marketing guy, and it is just an awesome way to educate our fellas in the forum. Heck, even if you do get a "pounding" from the kleemann system it will not mean that your system is horrible becuz is it half the price right, and ppl that are intested in your product will still be in your product. SHOW UP and wow the crowd!
HPS so what is ur reason for not showing up? other than your weak lame excuse of chattin with ladies and drinkin' beer @ 11am in macdonalds restaurant? i mean the majority of the ppl here in this forum konw that ur product is less expense thus less result might be expected. i think its a good oppurtunity for you, one, to compete with a kleemann system and prove soemthing since u and cory were having such a hot arguement, and second, for you to have more publicity which might bring you more businese, its a win-win situation if you ask me and you call yourself a marketing guy, and it is just an awesome way to educate our fellas in the forum. Heck, even if you do get a "pounding" from the kleemann system it will not mean that your system is horrible becuz is it half the price right, and ppl that are intested in your product will still be in your product. SHOW UP and wow the crowd!
Actually I was at Woody's Wharf and Muttlynches in Newport Beach.
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Doesn't your warranty have a cap of $8,000? Sure, it's better than nothing, but what's $8,000 in comparison to the cost of an engine? I discussed the upcoming warranty from Kleemann this weekend, and know that they will soon be offering an extended factory warranty that will be able to cover the price of an engine.
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Originally posted by Mach430
Doesn't your warranty have a cap of $8,000? Sure, it's better than nothing, but what's $8,000 in comparison to the cost of an engine? I discussed the upcoming warranty from Kleemann this weekend, and know that they will soon be offering an extended factory warranty that will be able to cover the price of an engine.
Doesn't your warranty have a cap of $8,000? Sure, it's better than nothing, but what's $8,000 in comparison to the cost of an engine? I discussed the upcoming warranty from Kleemann this weekend, and know that they will soon be offering an extended factory warranty that will be able to cover the price of an engine.
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I'm still waiting to find out why Timster removed all of his posts and said that he was wrong, there wouldn't be any dynos, and the best one..."Sorry, at this time I can say nothing. " Im sure hes just speechless because of how successful his HPS is.........
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Originally posted by Petie
I'm still waiting to find out why Timster removed all of his posts and said that he was wrong, there wouldn't be any dynos, and the best one..."Sorry, at this time I can say nothing. " Im sure hes just speechless because of how successful his HPS is.........
I'm still waiting to find out why Timster removed all of his posts and said that he was wrong, there wouldn't be any dynos, and the best one..."Sorry, at this time I can say nothing. " Im sure hes just speechless because of how successful his HPS is.........
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Originally posted by HPS
Information? Check out our 25 page detailed website including pricing. Something Kleemann fails to do.
I can send you up 50 pages worth of information if you like?
www.myhps.com
Information? Check out our 25 page detailed website including pricing. Something Kleemann fails to do.
I can send you up 50 pages worth of information if you like?
www.myhps.com
Many have stated here that HPS is an alternative to KLEEMANN. They are absolutly right. SPAM is an alternative to HAM, Velveta is an alternative to cheddar, a blow up doll is an alternative to a real woman. My point is: there are many alternatives in this world for anything and everything. The questions is what are you willing to sacrafice for the "alternative?" Sacrafice reliability on your $75,000.00 Benz? It's your call.
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Originally posted by HPS
Remember Kleemann doesn't offer an extended factory warranty as HPS provides. I think one Kleemann sales man told me it would cost me 2k for the additional policy. We offer for nothing. In general you might spend up to 8k. And that doesn't include sales tax if your in California.
Remember Kleemann doesn't offer an extended factory warranty as HPS provides. I think one Kleemann sales man told me it would cost me 2k for the additional policy. We offer for nothing. In general you might spend up to 8k. And that doesn't include sales tax if your in California.
Originally posted by HPS
Information? Check out our 25 page detailed website including pricing. Something Kleemann fails to do.
I can send you up 50 pages worth of information if you like?
www.myhps.com
Information? Check out our 25 page detailed website including pricing. Something Kleemann fails to do.
I can send you up 50 pages worth of information if you like?
www.myhps.com
Last edited by Accord; Nov 26, 2002 at 01:23 PM.
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Originally posted by CoryU
Many have stated here that HPS is an alternative to KLEEMANN. They are absolutly right. SPAM is an alternative to HAM, Velveta is an alternative to cheddar, a blow up doll is an alternative to a real woman...
Many have stated here that HPS is an alternative to KLEEMANN. They are absolutly right. SPAM is an alternative to HAM, Velveta is an alternative to cheddar, a blow up doll is an alternative to a real woman...
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Originally posted by Accord
Kleemann doesn't need an extended factory warantee because when you buy their product, you buy with the confidence and knowledge that there has never been a problem with a Kleemann Supercharger and that Kleemann is internationally recognized as being one of, if not, THE best aftermarket company for Mercedes-Benz. If I bought an HPS supercharger, would I be able to have that same confidence?
When I look at a new product such as a Supercharger, the first thing I look at is it's reliability, cost is secondary. I saw nothing about reliability on HPS' 25 page detailed website, unlike Kleemann.
Kleemann doesn't need an extended factory warantee because when you buy their product, you buy with the confidence and knowledge that there has never been a problem with a Kleemann Supercharger and that Kleemann is internationally recognized as being one of, if not, THE best aftermarket company for Mercedes-Benz. If I bought an HPS supercharger, would I be able to have that same confidence?
When I look at a new product such as a Supercharger, the first thing I look at is it's reliability, cost is secondary. I saw nothing about reliability on HPS' 25 page detailed website, unlike Kleemann.
(Specs or FAQ) it talks about the Magnuson 4th Generation version of the Eaton supercharger. Reliablity here. If you missed here is the information for you. You can click About Us, for more information. Have a nice day! www.myhps.com
3. Is an Eaton supercharger reliable?
The reliability of the Eaton supercharger was the first criteria, which was addressed during early design development of the supercharger. Dedicated engineers with backgrounds in compressors, gearing, trilogy and metallurgy, as well as thermal and structural analysis enabled Eaton to find solutions too many reliability concerns. In addition, strict customer durability test criteria have been achieving a reliable product. In addition, numerous vehicles have successfully completed 100,000 mile, OEM (original equipment manufacturer), vehicle durability tests. Improvements in bearing and seal design also aided in a product, which meets all OEM durability criteria.
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Originally posted by HPS
Reliability is a key issue, if you really looked at our website.
(Specs or FAQ) it talks about the Magnuson 4th Generation version of the Eaton supercharger. Reliablity here. If you missed here is the information for you. You can click About Us, for more information. Have a nice day! www.myhps.com
Reliability is a key issue, if you really looked at our website.
(Specs or FAQ) it talks about the Magnuson 4th Generation version of the Eaton supercharger. Reliablity here. If you missed here is the information for you. You can click About Us, for more information. Have a nice day! www.myhps.com
Has there ever been a major problem with an HPS equipped car? Why won't you comment on Timster's car? I'm curious to know what happened seeing as though I am a potential HPS customer and would like to get all the facts before shelling out nearly 10 grand.
Last edited by Accord; Nov 26, 2002 at 01:46 PM.
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When somebody takes away all the posetive posts he wrote about a product, you can all be sure that something is very wrong.
I will bet that Timsters car has burned holes in the pistons and the engine is completely dead, Cory U have eariler explained why here on MBW.
Bad compressor, bad design and no intercooler on a car with 10:1
compression, to brag of 300 years knowhow and then create such a hoppy kit, is beyond my fantasy.
I will bet that Timsters car has burned holes in the pistons and the engine is completely dead, Cory U have eariler explained why here on MBW.
Bad compressor, bad design and no intercooler on a car with 10:1
compression, to brag of 300 years knowhow and then create such a hoppy kit, is beyond my fantasy.
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Originally posted by CoryU
As you have stated, you are a "marketing guy". You know why we don't post prices then right? It's easy enough to pick up the phone and give any one of our dealers a call to get pricing. The advantage of that is actually speaking to someone about the product and asking questions. That brings me to my second point- Not just anyone can install our kompressor systems. Each and everyone of our dealers is personally trained by either myself or the president of the company on how to properly install our kompressor at the dealers facility. We don't just call up a shop and say "hey, you wanna start selling superchargers for MB?"
Many have stated here that HPS is an alternative to KLEEMANN. They are absolutly right. SPAM is an alternative to HAM, Velveta is an alternative to cheddar, a blow up doll is an alternative to a real woman. My point is: there are many alternatives in this world for anything and everything. The questions is what are you willing to sacrafice for the "alternative?" Sacrafice reliability on your $75,000.00 Benz? It's your call.
As you have stated, you are a "marketing guy". You know why we don't post prices then right? It's easy enough to pick up the phone and give any one of our dealers a call to get pricing. The advantage of that is actually speaking to someone about the product and asking questions. That brings me to my second point- Not just anyone can install our kompressor systems. Each and everyone of our dealers is personally trained by either myself or the president of the company on how to properly install our kompressor at the dealers facility. We don't just call up a shop and say "hey, you wanna start selling superchargers for MB?"
Many have stated here that HPS is an alternative to KLEEMANN. They are absolutly right. SPAM is an alternative to HAM, Velveta is an alternative to cheddar, a blow up doll is an alternative to a real woman. My point is: there are many alternatives in this world for anything and everything. The questions is what are you willing to sacrafice for the "alternative?" Sacrafice reliability on your $75,000.00 Benz? It's your call.
