Ackerman angles and Continentals
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Ackerman angles and Continentals
My 2018 S63 has Continental tires on it - ContiSportContact - and the car is terrible in the wet, which is bad, since I live in Seattle and it's winter, which means 9 months of rain pretty much.
I've run Continental DWS in the past and really liked those, so I'm wondering if the SportContact are known to be bad in rain, or ??? The skid easily and in turns "scrub" really badly. Yesterday I had to enter a downtown parkade at an angle and I slid sideways somewhat, which was spooky.
I guess what I'm really wondering is if a switch to a different tire would bring marked improvement in wet performance, or is it the car, or ???
Thanks!
I've run Continental DWS in the past and really liked those, so I'm wondering if the SportContact are known to be bad in rain, or ??? The skid easily and in turns "scrub" really badly. Yesterday I had to enter a downtown parkade at an angle and I slid sideways somewhat, which was spooky.
I guess what I'm really wondering is if a switch to a different tire would bring marked improvement in wet performance, or is it the car, or ???
Thanks!
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2017 S63 Coupe (Roo); 2020 S63 Coupe (Dorian); 2021 Maybach GLS 600 w/all in 4 seat config (Bach S)
My 2018 S63 has Continental tires on it - ContiSportContact - and the car is terrible in the wet, which is bad, since I live in Seattle and it's winter, which means 9 months of rain pretty much.
I've run Continental DWS in the past and really liked those, so I'm wondering if the SportContact are known to be bad in rain, or ??? The skid easily and in turns "scrub" really badly. Yesterday I had to enter a downtown parkade at an angle and I slid sideways somewhat, which was spooky.
I guess what I'm really wondering is if a switch to a different tire would bring marked improvement in wet performance, or is it the car, or ???
Thanks!
I've run Continental DWS in the past and really liked those, so I'm wondering if the SportContact are known to be bad in rain, or ??? The skid easily and in turns "scrub" really badly. Yesterday I had to enter a downtown parkade at an angle and I slid sideways somewhat, which was spooky.
I guess what I'm really wondering is if a switch to a different tire would bring marked improvement in wet performance, or is it the car, or ???
Thanks!
My choice after trying different brands for the coupe:
- For Winter = MICHELIN PILOT ALPIN PA4 N-SPEC
- For summer = MICHELIN PILOT SPORT 4S
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2020 S63 Coupe, 2006 Hummer H1 Alpha, 2018 McLaren 720S, 2022 Porsche 911 TurboS, 2022 Tesla Model X
The OEM Continental tires are rubbish. My 2015 S63 came with them, wasn't that impressed with their traction and the tread wear was awful. I have P Zero Corsa on another car which are borderline track tires and they are holding up better than those Contis.
The Michelin PS4S are a no-brainer, they are the ultimate summer street tire. Better traction than the Contis (or Pirellis) and way better tread life. And they are not too expensive, you can usually get a set mounted with load balancing for about ~1400 with price-matching and rebates.
I'm in Arizona so don't need winter tires. It doesn't rain much here, but when it does it can be torrential. The PS4S are certainly suitable for driving in the rain as long as some common sense is used i.e. avoid sport mode and ESC off.
The Michelin PS4S are a no-brainer, they are the ultimate summer street tire. Better traction than the Contis (or Pirellis) and way better tread life. And they are not too expensive, you can usually get a set mounted with load balancing for about ~1400 with price-matching and rebates.
I'm in Arizona so don't need winter tires. It doesn't rain much here, but when it does it can be torrential. The PS4S are certainly suitable for driving in the rain as long as some common sense is used i.e. avoid sport mode and ESC off.
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2017 S63 Coupe (Roo); 2020 S63 Coupe (Dorian); 2021 Maybach GLS 600 w/all in 4 seat config (Bach S)
Last Christmas Eve we had a surprise snow storm in WA that turned to ice in hours and we were 39 miles from home. It was one hell of a ride, and we got home safely which is the most important testimony for these tires and AMG AWD.
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PA4 are great in heavy rain and temps below 40. I even drove it on ice, when bid trucks were sliding off the road.
Last Christmas Eve we had a surprise snow storm in WA that turned to ice in hours and we were 39 miles from home. It was one hell of a ride, and we got home safely which is the most important testimony for these tires and AMG AWD.
Last Christmas Eve we had a surprise snow storm in WA that turned to ice in hours and we were 39 miles from home. It was one hell of a ride, and we got home safely which is the most important testimony for these tires and AMG AWD.
You would not wanted to have made that drive with the Contisportcontact 5p, that's for sure!
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We had a heck of a time finding lug bolts, the originals and the 2018 S65 replacements that ordered having too long of an unthreaded shank under the head. You'd need a wheel spacer. So we got lugs that were threaded all the way instead, and that seems to have worked.
I'm concerned that the wheels, (eBay) are likely replicas, even though they came with center caps and feature the original part numbers on them. They were sold as factory "AMG Wheels", and have the AMG logo, all of that. That, or the dimension changed for 2020 such that the 2020 wheels won't work with 2018 bolts on a 2018 car. Anyone happen to know?
I'm concerned that the wheels, (eBay) are likely replicas, even though they came with center caps and feature the original part numbers on them. They were sold as factory "AMG Wheels", and have the AMG logo, all of that. That, or the dimension changed for 2020 such that the 2020 wheels won't work with 2018 bolts on a 2018 car. Anyone happen to know?
