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Old 11-26-2006 | 11:41 PM
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Hi all, i dont usually post in here but i have a question about the W220. I was getting gas in Dallas getting ready to drive back home to Houston and I saw a w220 badged as a 320. To my knowledge they did'nt make that in the states. Just for general knowledge can someone correct me if im wrong about them making it in the states or did they perhaps have it imported in (steering wheel was on the left)?

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Old 11-27-2006 | 12:29 AM
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Hi all, i dont usually post in here but i have a question about the W220. I was getting gas in Dallas getting ready to drive back home to Houston and I saw a w220 badged as a 320. To my knowledge they did'nt make that in the states. Just for general knowledge can someone correct me if im wrong about them making it in the states or did they perhaps have it imported in (steering wheel was on the left)?

thanks
its actually a w140 model which is before the w220
w220 was from 2000-2006(im sad to say "was" since we are no longer the current body style)
w140 was from 1991-1999
are u sure it was a w220 body style? are u sure it didnt say s350? which is a desiel model and i think its only available in europe unless someone shipped it here.
Old 11-27-2006 | 12:36 AM
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Several possibilities:

-It's a W140
-It's a S350 (Yes, they did ship those here for 2006, gas models)
-It's imported into the states for whatever reason
-It's rebadged (Sleeper?)
Old 11-27-2006 | 12:49 AM
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im for sure it was a w220. it was an older middle east couple so im almost positive it wasnt rebadged. i guess it was a 2006 model as a 350 (the tail lights had three stripes instead of two like the 2000 - 2002 if im correct). i guess i remembered the numbers wrong. so they did make a 350 in the states for 2006? if it were a diesel would'nt it have said cdi?
Old 11-27-2006 | 03:29 AM
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Over here the 1999 to 2002 were 320 I think, then they went to the 350,

Found some on the net:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...336&key=572044

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...773&key=572044

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...322&key=572044

Ah, here we go must have been 2003 that they changed the powerplant:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...839&key=572044

As regards to the tail lights I'd think it would be pretty easy to change them over if one wanted to.

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Old 11-27-2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 6thGenSmoke
im for sure it was a w220. it was an older middle east couple so im almost positive it wasnt rebadged. i guess it was a 2006 model as a 350 (the tail lights had three stripes instead of two like the 2000 - 2002 if im correct). i guess i remembered the numbers wrong. so they did make a 350 in the states for 2006? if it were a diesel would'nt it have said cdi?
No such tailight with three white stripes. It's either two thick ones ('99-'02) or four thin ones ('03-'06).

In 2006, the U.S. got the S350 in SWB version only. It's a gas model. Fairly rare on the streets here as it was only released for a year.
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The vehicle you've seen was most likely been imported.

W220 was first available in Europe in 1998 with 280 CDI (that nobody was buying thus they disregarded it) and 320, 430, 500, 600 gas engines.

320 is often seen for example here in Russian Federation. 320s been available till 2003. Those engines are gas, 224 horse power V6. Driven one of those, not enough torque for such a big car IMO.

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Old 11-27-2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Singularity
The vehicle you've seen was most likely been imported.

W220 was first available in Europe in 1998 with 280 CDI (that nobody was buying thus they disregarded it) and 320, 430, 500, 600 gas engines.
Again some misinformation from you pal.

There was never a S280 CDI, but a S 280 (mainly sold to Singapore).
Smallest Diesel was the S 320 CDI which is quite popular in Europe.

Cheers, Frank
Old 11-27-2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank_S500
Again some misinformation from you pal.

There was never a S280 CDI, but a S 280 (mainly sold to Singapore).
Smallest Diesel was the S 320 CDI which is quite popular in Europe.

Cheers, Frank
Yup there never was, never has been a 280CDI.
Old 11-27-2006 | 05:28 PM
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The S320 cdi in both long (5163mm) and short (5043mm) wheelbase seem to be the most popular version over here in the U.K. Most people seem to go for the V6 common rail diesel engine over the gas version because of the high fuel prices here.
Old 11-27-2006 | 09:32 PM
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W220 was first available in Europe in 1998 with 280 CDI
The only S-class with a 280 gas engine is W140. No such thing as 280 CDI,
W210 comes with a 320 CDI
Those engines are gas, 224 horse power V6. Driven one of those, not enough torque for such a big car IMO.
Driven alot on a W220 S320, absolutly enough power. But everyone is different, some people want 5 or 6 liter engine or S7.3 so they can roll up the asphalt. What is the point of having that in countries NOT like Russia? You can't go over the speed limit, fines are too high and you can get jailed.
Old 11-27-2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sk217
The only S-class with a 280 gas engine is W140. No such thing as 280 CDI,
W210 comes with a 320 CDI

Driven alot on a W220 S320, absolutly enough power. But everyone is different, some people want 5 or 6 liter engine or S7.3 so they can roll up the asphalt. What is the point of having that in countries NOT like Russia? You can't go over the speed limit, fines are too high and you can get jailed.
Word up dawg I'm from Moscow.
Old 11-27-2006 | 10:59 PM
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Word up dawg I'm from Moscow.
lol!!!nice slang... its pretty funny
Old 12-04-2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank_S500
Again some misinformation from you pal.

There was never a S280 CDI, but a S 280 (mainly sold to Singapore).
Smallest Diesel was the S 320 CDI which is quite popular in Europe.

Cheers, Frank
My bad. S280 was the gas engine. But again It has been ignored and taken off production line that's for sure.
Originally Posted by sk217
The only S-class with a 280 gas engine is W140. No such thing as 280 CDI,
W210 comes with a 320 CDI

Driven alot on a W220 S320, absolutly enough power. But everyone is different, some people want 5 or 6 liter engine or S7.3 so they can roll up the asphalt. What is the point of having that in countries NOT like Russia? You can't go over the speed limit, fines are too high and you can get jailed.
Yes there was S280 for W220 in early models.

My personal experience with S320 proved it to be weak for such a heavy vehicle. Talking about highway performance S320 is definately not enough IMO.
Old 12-04-2006 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Singularity
My bad. S280 was the gas engine. But again It has been ignored and taken off production line that's for sure.

Yes there was S280 for W220 in early models.

My personal experience with S320 proved it to be weak for such a heavy vehicle. Talking about highway performance S320 is definately not enough IMO.
correct me if i'm wrong, i believe the W220 S280 was still produced (in short wheelbase form) up until they started producing the W221. i clearly remember seeing much of them around asia and i'm certain that they were genuine '03+ instead of just a facelifted pre '03 models. now it's being replaced with the W221 S300.

and as you said about the S320, not enough power at all...
Old 12-05-2006 | 09:56 AM
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Yes there was S280 for W220 in early models.
No there was not. In what country did you see it? It was never in Germany, it can be easily proved by looking here: http://www.mobile.de/
And it was never in Russia.
Old 12-05-2006 | 11:06 AM
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No there was not. In what country did you see it? It was never in Germany, it can be easily proved by looking here: http://www.mobile.de/
And it was never in Russia.
They're all over Thailand and some other Asian countries. Here's one in Japan with an AMG kit:

http://news.ruhenheim.com/index.php?ID=161
Old 12-05-2006 | 11:48 AM
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Also in Australia/NZ:

http://www.autotrader.co.nz/used-car...d/2088324.aspx

Odd, though, that it's not listed at globalautoindex.com
Old 12-05-2006 | 03:50 PM
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Yup there never was, never has been a 280CDI.
there was also a s400 cdi in europe, never made it the Uk though
Old 12-05-2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sk217
No there was not. In what country did you see it? It was never in Germany, it can be easily proved by looking here: http://www.mobile.de/
And it was never in Russia.
What the hell are you talking about the W220 S280 was made up until the model was discontinued:

Here's one at a dealer near me:





and another:



Old 12-05-2006 | 07:09 PM
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W220 S280s are extremely popular in Southeast Asia. And they were made until the discontinuation of the W220.
Old 12-05-2006 | 07:36 PM
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OK, OK... I just never seen one, never ever. I thought if it is not in Germany, it's not anywhere. I guess there wasn't any made for the german market. South Asia, I have never been in.
Old 12-06-2006 | 10:10 AM
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OK, OK... I just never seen one, never ever. I thought if it is not in Germany, it's not anywhere. I guess there wasn't any made for the german market. South Asia, I have never been in.
Trust me, nobody would have one given a choice. I've driven one with 4 people in and they can barely get up a steep hill!
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I've driven one with 4 people in and they can barely get up a steep hill!

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