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Just about to give up on this brake job

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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Just about to give up on this brake job

This car is being an absolute ***** right now. I'm hoping, once again, you oh-so-very helpful guys here can help me out before I burn my car to the ground.

The screw from my previous thread is now out thanks to a set of screw extractors. I appreciate the help!

Now, I'm working on the driver side rear rotor and I cannot, for the life of me, get it off. Obviously all the lug bolts are out aswell as that torx screw. It is so rusted it's almost like the rotor is welded on.

Here are the methods I've tried:

-Beating the rotor with a hammer
-Kicking the rotor with my boots
-Jerking it violently with my hands (any more violent and the car would have fell off the jackstands, or so it seemed)

The rotor didn't budge, so I got desperate:

-Taking the MB factory jack and wedging it between the rotor and subframe (jacking it sideways.....jack is now minorly damaged)
-Taking a flathead screwdriver, wedging it in one of the ventilation fins and prying the rotor (screwdriver is now bent and damaged)
-Running all the way to Sears Hardware for a Propane torch. Torch helped out, but the rotor is still stuck (and I hope to god my wheel bearings aren't damaged)

The rotor is loose and moving, but still on very tight.

All in all, this brake job has been a nightmare and next time I'd gladly pay the stealership a few extra bills and have them do it.

All help is appreciated.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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dude pay an independent shop 75 bucks and theyll do it, much easier lol...
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by S500 Man
dude pay an independent shop 75 bucks and theyll do it, much easier lol...
That is not an option at the moment. I have a damaged (from hammer blows) rotor stuck on. Can't drive it anywhere.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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I think one of these would do the trick.

http://www.nextag.com/OTC-OTC7403-St...2F523E3C924495

You can get one at Sears
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by newton22
That is not an option at the moment. I have a damaged (from hammer blows) rotor stuck on. Can't drive it anywhere.
Newton excuse the silly question but you have the caliper support removed correct? Don;t shoot me for asking that, just making sure..

My rotors were on pretty good too but remember.. they are only riding on the center hub that's all.. SO..

turn the wheel outward, and whack on the inside of the rotor, and turn the rotor so that you get to whack it from two angles.. Normally it only takes a few really good hits with a really good hammer and off it flies...

don;t try this with some small happy meal hammer cuz the car will just laugh at you...

Hit it Tuurn, HIt it turn, Hit it, turn.. It'll come off..

Also try spraying Wd40 or something around where it its on the hub to help it out a little.

Don;t get frustrated my friend... It'll come off.. I have to travel tomorrow, if I don't for some reason I'll be down to help you get this behind you.. I have business with the passport office anywayz...
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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THIS HAPPENED TO ME TOO. I used a dremel to make the bolt flat head compatible like this:

http://www.instructables.com/id/EVIAVHJ8LFEP28723U/

Then from the top edge of the stripped bolt used a flat head and hammered it anti-clock wise. that did the trick. MAKE SURE YOUR FOOT BRAKE IS OFF this releases the tension form the rotor and the bolt.

GOOD LUCK!
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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were you replaceing the rear rotors too?

the "E" brake has got to be released,i think the rotor uses the inside of itself with a small set of brake shoes for the e brake.this would explain why the rotor has broke loose but wont come off.if this was the problem than have a couple of beers and relax,then finish the job.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AH1W-COBRA
the "E" brake has got to be released,i think the rotor uses the inside of itself with a small set of brake shoes for the e brake.this would explain why the rotor has broke loose but wont come off.if this was the problem than have a couple of beers and relax,then finish the job.
Just what I was thinking. I sure hope he had the parking brake off.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AH1W-COBRA
the "E" brake has got to be released,i think the rotor uses the inside of itself with a small set of brake shoes for the e brake.this would explain why the rotor has broke loose but wont come off.if this was the problem than have a couple of beers and relax,then finish the job.
Correct... I didn't realize he said right rear... I'll bet the brake is on...
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Yup, it was on. I was horrified when I found out since I thought I damaged my parking brake.

I finished the brake job and the parking brake seems to be working fine. New brakes feel good.

Once again, thank you guys so much for the help.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by newton22
Yup, it was on. I was horrified when I found out since I thought I damaged my parking brake.

I finished the brake job and the parking brake seems to be working fine. New brakes feel good.

Once again, thank you guys so much for the help.
glad to hear everything worked out
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by newton22
Yup, it was on. I was horrified when I found out since I thought I damaged my parking brake.

I finished the brake job and the parking brake seems to be working fine. New brakes feel good.

Once again, thank you guys so much for the help.
Yeah!! Go Newton,, Go Newton... Go Newton,,,

Congrats on a good job!!
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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im wishing,hoping,asking for all diy'ers

i know it is another $100,but if everyone had the "star library service dvd" we would all be doing alot more successful maintanance tasks and with the use of this forum make owning these fantastic cars out of warranty a breeze.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Good to hear. Make sure you complete the bed in process for those new brakes, otherwise you will warp your rotors and have to do this all over again.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kenstudios
Good to hear. Make sure you complete the bed in process for those new brakes, otherwise you will warp your rotors and have to do this all over again.
I have heard too many different bedding in procedures. I'm just gonna go easy on the brakes for a while and avoid heavy braking.
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