Amsoil best syntetic oil for our cars.
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I ran Royal Purple XPR in my car for like 5,000 miles... just changed it to Mobil 1... car does the same thing it's always done - starts and stops.
I ran Royal Purple XPR in my car for like 5,000 miles... just changed it to Mobil 1... car does the same thing it's always done - starts and stops.
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Can you produce documentation of this?I would like to forward it to my aunt who has 35+ patents with Mobil Oil.
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can your aunt do anaylsis of the two oils to see which one performs better. ill put up the funding if they could test Mobil 1 0w-40 euro formula vs Amsoil 5w-40 euro formula.
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im not geting attacked you moron these guys could be right but i just wanna know which oil is better.
Condom if you cant add anything knowledgeful dont post your seriously starting to bug me... you dont want me to knock you out with a smack the next i see you and you know i could very easily do it
Condom if you cant add anything knowledgeful dont post your seriously starting to bug me... you dont want me to knock you out with a smack the next i see you and you know i could very easily do it
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im not geting attacked you moron these guys could be right but i just wanna know which oil is better.
Condom if you cant add anything knowledgeful dont post your seriously starting to bug me... you dont want me to knock you out with a smack the next i see you and you know i could very easily do it
Condom if you cant add anything knowledgeful dont post your seriously starting to bug me... you dont want me to knock you out with a smack the next i see you and you know i could very easily do it
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ok here are some oil analyis companies. which one would be the best for testing three independent oils.
i would be testing mobil 1, Royal Purple and Amsoil
http://www.polarislabs1.com/oil-analysis.htm#engines
or
http://www.testoil.com/
or
http://www.oillab.com/bestoil.html
i would be testing mobil 1, Royal Purple and Amsoil
http://www.polarislabs1.com/oil-analysis.htm#engines
or
http://www.testoil.com/
or
http://www.oillab.com/bestoil.html
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ok here are some oil analyis companies. which one would be the best for testing three independent oils.
i would be testing mobil 1, Royal Purple and Amsoil
http://www.polarislabs1.com/oil-analysis.htm#engines
or
http://www.testoil.com/
or
http://www.oillab.com/bestoil.html
i would be testing mobil 1, Royal Purple and Amsoil
http://www.polarislabs1.com/oil-analysis.htm#engines
or
http://www.testoil.com/
or
http://www.oillab.com/bestoil.html
Why not try Valvoline and Liquimoly too?
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ok blackstone labs looks good also
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
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ok blackstone labs looks good also
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
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Both are good quality companies 
The oil itself will NOT void the warranty and if mercedes benz and the dealership wants to say it is the cause of the failure they have to prove it.
Yes, that test is sufficient. Though whatever tests you use just use the same for all three MB1, RP, and AMSoil. And try as you might to no change driving habits either, that will lend some validity to the tests also.
229.51 is only for Bluetec models (diesel with DPF), and not approved for use in any other models, especially gasoline. So unless you have a S320/400/420CDI with DPF. Since you are probably in the US, it is not the case.
If the oil was so good it would not void your warranty, and would have the proper approval.
If the oil was so good it would not void your warranty, and would have the proper approval.
ok blackstone labs looks good also
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
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ok so RedG the standard testing will be fine correct??
so the TBN testing wont be needed right??
wait i was gonna send in brand new samples of each oil to the companies to be done for testing??
does it matter if i send in new or should i save used samples of each after 3000 miles of use??
so the TBN testing wont be needed right??
wait i was gonna send in brand new samples of each oil to the companies to be done for testing??
does it matter if i send in new or should i save used samples of each after 3000 miles of use??
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Both are good quality companies
The oil itself will NOT void the warranty and if mercedes benz and the dealership wants to say it is the cause of the failure they have to prove it.
Yes, that test is sufficient. Though whatever tests you use just use the same for all three MB1, RP, and AMSoil. And try as you might to no change driving habits either, that will lend some validity to the tests also.
The oil itself will NOT void the warranty and if mercedes benz and the dealership wants to say it is the cause of the failure they have to prove it.
Yes, that test is sufficient. Though whatever tests you use just use the same for all three MB1, RP, and AMSoil. And try as you might to no change driving habits either, that will lend some validity to the tests also.
Get the TBN, that will tell you how well the additive package is holding up.
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Well if you say an oil related problem sure, but you would know as well as anyone it typically isn't an oil related problem for the engine failure. Either way, yes, they still have to prove it was the oil's fault and not other mechanical failures.
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take a look at german Castrol 0w-30. Its MB approved, and the UOAs have been better than Mobil 1.
Either way, for the guys with 500s, your engine is not terribly hard on oil. Even the cheapest synthetic would be fine if you change it every 2-2.5k (huge waste of money if you ask me).
Either way, for the guys with 500s, your engine is not terribly hard on oil. Even the cheapest synthetic would be fine if you change it every 2-2.5k (huge waste of money if you ask me).
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As I have said NUMEROUS time before WHY would you want to use anything else besides Mobil 1
It works GRAET
It meets ALL requirements
Its cheap
Its readily available
Note: Amsoil is a better product, BARELY but real world results it shows NO difference between the two, aka temperature Mobil 1 is good to 520 degrees, Amsoil is good to 525. NO REAL world drifference here guys.By the way, I made those numbers up as I have lost the actual numbers over the years, but they show the difference my friends.
My ex-crew chief worked at the Gulf research lab here in PA that did oil testing and Mobil 1 was as good as ALL the other oils in their testing.
Oh well I am really tired of this issue so enough said. Good luck to all, but I know I will stay with what works
See yeah
PS: ALL oils sold in the US now must meet the reduced phosphurous levels due to emissions and as such NONE of them are as good as they use to be, FYI
It works GRAET
It meets ALL requirements
Its cheap
Its readily available
Note: Amsoil is a better product, BARELY but real world results it shows NO difference between the two, aka temperature Mobil 1 is good to 520 degrees, Amsoil is good to 525. NO REAL world drifference here guys.By the way, I made those numbers up as I have lost the actual numbers over the years, but they show the difference my friends.
My ex-crew chief worked at the Gulf research lab here in PA that did oil testing and Mobil 1 was as good as ALL the other oils in their testing.
Oh well I am really tired of this issue so enough said. Good luck to all, but I know I will stay with what works
See yeah
PS: ALL oils sold in the US now must meet the reduced phosphurous levels due to emissions and as such NONE of them are as good as they use to be, FYI
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im not geting attacked you moron these guys could be right but i just wanna know which oil is better.
Condom if you cant add anything knowledgeful dont post your seriously starting to bug me... you dont want me to knock you out with a smack the next i see you and you know i could very easily do it
Condom if you cant add anything knowledgeful dont post your seriously starting to bug me... you dont want me to knock you out with a smack the next i see you and you know i could very easily do it
p.s you made me into a prankster
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ok blackstone labs looks good also
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
is this test sufficient enough??
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard_analysis.html
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Since we're on the topic of oil, I figured I'd post this writeup:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/faq...=haas_articles
Although it's really not a brand comparison, more like oil 101; It is by far the most detailed and thorough article I have ever seen on oil viscosity. It's very long, but worth the read if you have the time. Enjoy.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/faq...=haas_articles
Although it's really not a brand comparison, more like oil 101; It is by far the most detailed and thorough article I have ever seen on oil viscosity. It's very long, but worth the read if you have the time. Enjoy.
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Is there something specific about AMG engines that require -40 weight lubrication or is AMG just more conservative about high-temperature viscosity? If it's the latter, I'd be inclined to go with the AMG recommendations even in a non-AMG MB, but not knowing what's behind the prohibition I really don't know. I do know the dealers use Mobil 1 0W-40 in all gasoline engines, but that is probably to simplify stocking.
Anybody know for sure why the AMG requirements are different?
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Id imagine that AMG builds it engines a bit looser than the standard variants. This is all speculation, but I'd imagine they run slightly larger bearing clearance, ring gaps (especially on blown models), etc. In addition, these cars are generally driven harder which means higher oil temps.
This is just a guess, but I'd imagine any of the 229.3/.5 would work fine in an AMG engine, but since M1 0w-40 is easy to find, there is no reason not to use it.
I would feel very comfortable using GC 0w-30 in an AMG engine as its a quite thick 30wt oil.
This is just a guess, but I'd imagine any of the 229.3/.5 would work fine in an AMG engine, but since M1 0w-40 is easy to find, there is no reason not to use it.
I would feel very comfortable using GC 0w-30 in an AMG engine as its a quite thick 30wt oil.
