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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Amsoil best syntetic oil for our cars.

IS amsoil the best oil for our cars??. It is mercedes benz accepted and it beat out all the other companies out there including mobil 1 0w-40 european formula. i just ordered a case and also there atf fluid.

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http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/afl.aspx


http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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the best oil for our cars is Amsoil. It is mercedes benz accepted and it beat out all the other companies out there including mobil 1 0w-40 european formula.

it's weird, I just checked on the MB website for the AMSOIL name and it doesn't appear among the hundreds of approved oils

Did someone forget to let them know that AMSOIL is approved?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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I thought you said it was Royal Purple now Its Amsoil??

Go soil your pants hahha
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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OH yea!!! so why instead of the label saying USE MOBILE1 OIL ONLY ,Mercedes didn't state USE AMSOIL OIL ONLY Since is best four our cars !! is it that expensive ? I know you looking for extra power but not this way man
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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mobil 1 is 6.99 this is 9.40. i need to get an oil change in the next couple days anyway so im gonna give this a shot.



mobil 1 and mercedes are in marketing campaign together of course there gonna sy only use mobil 1.

some of the top race shop i know that produce high hp stuff recommended this stuff over mobil and even royal purple.


Gondon you have castrol gtx in your car moron lol....plus have you changed yours filters since you bought the car??? i know coming up with $53 is difficult these days ahhahhahaa


just read the comparison

http://www.smartsynthetics.com/artic...rms_mobil1.htm

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
the best oil for our cars is Amsoil. It is mercedes benz accepted and it beat out all the other companies out there including mobil 1 0w-40 european formula. i just ordered a case and also there atf fluid.

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Volkswagen 502.00, 505.00, 505.01
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http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/afl.aspx


http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx
229.51 is only for Bluetec models (diesel with DPF), and not approved for use in any other models, especially gasoline. So unless you have a S320/400/420CDI with DPF. Since you are probably in the US, it is not the case.

If the oil was so good it would not void your warranty, and would have the proper approval.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Factual data

http://www.alternative-energy-resour...t/mobil-1.html


comparison test 2

http://www.smartsynthetics.com/artic...rms_mobil1.htm



what do you say to this then?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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229.51 is for diesels.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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this is vs Royal purple

http://www.enhancedsyntheticoil.com/..._vs_AMSOIL.htm
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229.51 is for diesels.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
the best oil for our cars is Amsoil. It is mercedes benz accepted and it beat out all the other companies out there including mobil 1 0w-40 european formula. i just ordered a case and also there atf fluid.

API SM/CF
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http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/afl.aspx


http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx
I love Amsoil's wording:

It is recommended for European and North American gasoline or diesel vehicles requiring any of the following worldwide specifications ...

Begging the question of whether 229.51 supersedes 229.5 or not, they don't say that they have any of those certifications, just that they recommend their oil for applications requiring them. The MB literature seems to indicate they don't have a 229.51 cert.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Gondon you have castrol gtx in your car moron lol....plus have you changed yours filters since you bought the car??? i know coming up with $53 is difficult these days ahhahhahaa
Castrol GTX? Is that what they use in Albania?

I guess these "OLD" Air Filters are enough to pull, If I got new ones I'd be CarLengths ahead why would you want that ?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Its true Royal Purple has given better dyno results by about 5 rwhp over Mobil 1 but im not spending $10 a quart for RP or Amsoil when I change my oils every 2k. Ill stick with Mobil 1 thanks

PS - Amsoil has a 25,000 mile warranty.. If your motor blows up and they find the fault with the oil then they will replace your motor free of charge..
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S5LorinserF1 and Gondon i have to come meet you guys. you two really keep these thread going and going !!!!! S5LorinserF1 I have a stock S500 and you better beat me by an entire block from 40-100 with all the mods you have !!!!

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Its true Royal Purple has given better dyno results by about 5 rwhp over Mobil 1 but im not spending $10 a quart for RP or Amsoil when I change my oils every 2k. Ill stick with Mobil 1 thanks

PS - Amsoil has a 25,000 mile warranty.. If your motor blows up and they find the fault with the oil then they will replace your motor free of charge..
+1000 HAHAHAHAHAHA no ****tt
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I say to both of those that they only talk about 5w-30 and 10w-30 grades, neither of which are mb approved, and totally irrelevant to the applications of MB owners.
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Originally Posted by Kwik SC
Its true Royal Purple has given better dyno results by about 5 rwhp over Mobil 1 but im not spending $10 a quart for RP or Amsoil when I change my oils every 2k. Ill stick with Mobil 1 thanks

PS - Amsoil has a 25,000 mile warranty.. If your motor blows up and they find the fault with the oil then they will replace your motor free of charge..
Holy sheet, 2k miles?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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how about where amsoil stated they were #1 and no one could beat there products and were given 90days for any oil company to object and Mobil didnt do squat.


even mobil stated amsoil syntetic was superior.. i guess it comes down to your budget also.


i change my oil every 2000-2500 even though its syntetic because i drive the shat out of it. mobil is almost $3 cheaper a quart 6.99 vs 9.40. i love having the best products in there so im gonna try amsoil.

i had royal purple and it was allright....there ATF is amazing compared to the mobil atf. i had no more clunking or rough shifts after the change.

i think mobil 1 0w-40 is ok... so amsoil atf and 5w-40 should be the best out of all.
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
how about where amsoil stated they were #1 and no one could beat there products and were given 90days for any oil company to object and Mobil didnt do squat.


even mobil stated amsoil syntetic was superior.. i guess it comes down to your budget also.


i change my oil every 2000-2500 even though its syntetic because i drive the shat out of it. mobil is almost $3 cheaper a quart 6.99 vs 9.40. i love having the best products in there so im gonna try amsoil.

i had royal purple and it was allright....there ATF is amazing compared to the mobil atf. i had no more clunking or rough shifts after the change.

i think mobil 1 0w-40 is ok... so amsoil atf and 5w-40 should be the best out of all.
and you think changing you motor oil every 2000-2500 is actually good for the car ?
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
how about where amsoil stated they were #1 and no one could beat there products and were given 90days for any oil company to object and Mobil didnt do squat.


even mobil stated amsoil syntetic was superior.. i guess it comes down to your budget also.


i change my oil every 2000-2500 even though its syntetic because i drive the shat out of it. mobil is almost $3 cheaper a quart 6.99 vs 9.40. i love having the best products in there so im gonna try amsoil.

i had royal purple and it was allright....there ATF is amazing compared to the mobil atf. i had no more clunking or rough shifts after the change.

i think mobil 1 0w-40 is ok... so amsoil atf and 5w-40 should be the best out of all.

Do some used oil analysis with both the M1 and Amsoil and let us all know what you find.
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
how about where amsoil stated they were #1 and no one could beat there products and were given 90days for any oil company to object and Mobil didnt do squat.


even mobil stated amsoil syntetic was superior.. i guess it comes down to your budget also.


i change my oil every 2000-2500 even though its syntetic because i drive the shat out of it. mobil is almost $3 cheaper a quart 6.99 vs 9.40. i love having the best products in there so im gonna try amsoil.

i had royal purple and it was allright....there ATF is amazing compared to the mobil atf. i had no more clunking or rough shifts after the change.

i think mobil 1 0w-40 is ok... so amsoil atf and 5w-40 should be the best out of all.
Mobil 1 actually SHOULD be better than the Amsoil since it has the full additive package complying with 229.5, instead of the reduced additives that Amsoil has allowing it to comply with 229.51. The 1 at the end of MB spec signifies low SAPS for diesels with DPF.

I use MB transmission fluid where required 722.6 and .9, othwerwise I use Valvoline Dextron VI (fully synthetic replacement for DexIII).
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Originally Posted by S5LorinserF1
how about where amsoil stated they were #1 and no one could beat there products and were given 90days for any oil company to object and Mobil didnt do squat.


even mobil stated amsoil syntetic was superior.. i guess it comes down to your budget also.


i change my oil every 2000-2500 even though its syntetic because i drive the shat out of it. mobil is almost $3 cheaper a quart 6.99 vs 9.40. i love having the best products in there so im gonna try amsoil.

i had royal purple and it was allright....there ATF is amazing compared to the mobil atf. i had no more clunking or rough shifts after the change.

i think mobil 1 0w-40 is ok... so amsoil atf and 5w-40 should be the best out of all.

Dude you cannot say that without having factual data to back it up.. By going what the internet says or "testimonials" you will just look like a fool..

First off did you know that in 90% of all oils their additives are GONE after 3000 miles so after that you are just causing wear on the motor..

Second tell me why you think Royal Purple is "allright" compared to Amsoil.. Is it cause the bottle was not as pretty?

Third believe it or not the absolute best ATF oil is not Amsoil or Royal Purple or Mobil 1.. Its John Deere trans oil.. I know quite a few people who have replaced their ATF with that and have actually seen over a 4mpg increase in their cars..


PS - I know I dont have to change the oils at 2000 miles but in a turbocharged motor when you are rough on the car and do not let it idle for a bit so the turbos can cool off you can actually ruin the oil well before 3000 miles as well as "coking" up the oil lines inside the turbo thereby promoting premature turbo failure.. IMO better safe than sorry.
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Do some used oil analysis with both the M1 and Amsoil and let us all know what you find.
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