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Why won't my S500 burn rubber?

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Old 03-30-2003, 09:09 PM
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Why won't my S500 burn rubber?

Not that I would make a habit out of this, but I switched off the traction control to see how much power this car has off the line.
It didn't do much at all. Should this car be able to smoke em?
Does pushing the ESP off not fully shut down the traction control?
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I don't think it has enough power for the weight of the car to burn out. If you have the sport package with the AMG wheels, then it definately won't.

If you turn off the ESP, it is still kind of on, but if you had enough power, it would still peel out before kicking in.
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Thanks ///MB. I thought I saw somewhere that ESP remains partially active, even if switched off. Plus, I have 245/24/18's, which contributes.
Good thing I have my 71 455 HO Trans Am for my burnout fixes.
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Re: Why won't my S500 burn rubber?

Originally posted by Crankin
Not that I would make a habit out of this, but I switched off the traction control to see how much power this car has off the line.
It didn't do much at all. Should this car be able to smoke em?
Does pushing the ESP off not fully shut down the traction control?
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If you turn off the ESP and brake-torque it, you'll get all the smoke you could want. Not that I've ever tried it, of course
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Re: Re: Why won't my S500 burn rubber?

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If you turn off the ESP and brake-torque it, you'll get all the smoke you could want. Not that I've ever tried it, of course
Doesn't the throttle have some kind of cut-off when you're hitting the brake too? I think even with brake-torquing, it may chirp at best.
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No, if you turn the ESP off, you can smoke the holy hell out of the tires.
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Unfortunately, the ASR system (anti-slip differential....sort of) can't be turned off.
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Merc, wqould my 2000 S500 have ASR? Is that just the posi type differential, or is it actually an electronic traction control thing?
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Originally posted by MercManiac
Unfortunately, the ASR system (anti-slip differential....sort of) can't be turned off.
The 2000 S-Class does not have ASR, it has ESP.
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Originally posted by mbtech208
The 2000 S-Class does not have ASR, it has ESP.
it has both.
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Originally posted by MercManiac
Unfortunately, the ASR system (anti-slip differential....sort of) can't be turned off.
ASR is just the traction control aspect of the ESP. Before ESP was around, it was just ASR.
When the ESP is on (no light in the dash) and the car senses a loss of traction, it will retard the engine torque and brake whichever wheels it needs to, in order to regain traction. With the ESP off, I don't think it regulates the engine power, but instead may just transfer the power between the wheels by individually braking the drive wheels. But, even with this system always active, I think it will still allow you to spin the wheels. However, the S500 or the 01-02 600, for that matter, can really burn out the tires in a dry straight acceleration. Especially if you have anything larger than the stock 225 tires.

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