Vabene7

I was a tried and true proponent of Magnaflow, and pretty much still am.
But after seeing and hearing this video, I am a new fan of the Meistershaft exhaust systems....Wow. I guess I have only heard them on BMW's and not a Mercedes before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zNVEMsHytA

The video shows a Titaniam GT2 exhaust which is 5k plus for the CL65. For a similar exhaust (for w220 05' S600) is $2500 from GTHAUS.
More than I would like to spend, but one can wish, I guess.

Arnee

I had Ti Meisterschaft on my E46 M3 before and it sounded VERY nice. At the track, people would ask me what kind of exhaust it was since it sounded good at WOT.

I don't know if I'd put it on a Benz though as it's quite loud (but still not Honda Rice loud)

CLK Masters

Who would pay 5,000 for exhaust?
that pissing money away.
yes it sounds good. but not 5,000 good.

Das Geld 2

Just get an AMG exhaust and remove resonators and cats.

Arnee

People who can afford CL65's.

It's like a Kia owner asking "Why buy the AMG 55K intake and filters? It's just pissing away money."

Vabene7

I am looking for loud....It was such a unique sound on a MB.
When I change the exhaust on my car, I will not be taking into consideration refinement....

5k is nuts for and exhaust, especially a catback. Even the $2500 is too steep for me, which is the cost for my S600.
I was just sayin, that exhaust on an CL63/65 was off the chart!

-Chris

Vabene7

Which are the parts on the actual downtubes, before the bend towards the rear of the vehicle? I thought they were the cats.....?
If I remove them, won't I start error codes?

Das Geld 2

Those are Primary.

I'm talking about secondary, they are near your driver seat in the middle.

Arnee

will removing those throw a CEL code?

Vabene7

Can anyone speak to that experience?
My guess is...it will not throw CEL codes because the O2 sensors are located just behind the primary cats.

MBNiko

Im almost positive you are correct Vabene07, the O2 sensors are located in the primary cats. I dont think removing the secondary cats will throw any error codes because technically, its just a metal box with no sensors

Arnee

Then they are not secondary cats but more likely just resonators.

Vabene7

Yeah, I think you're right.

Meisterschaft

Many of our full cat-back systems delete what are known as secondary cats. We've never had any complaints of our exhaust tripping a CEL.

Mark

Das Geld 2

You can remove the secondary safely without an error codes or CEL

02S430

Yea no CEL i have just primary cats and mufflers. the rest is straight pipes

MBNiko

+1
I always wondered if you had the primary cats still in! Its still pretty loud and rumbly with them in. I like!!

tusabes

If you want loud, and an intimidating exhaust note, NOTHING beats Flowmaster 40 series. They are cheap too.

Here are the quieter 50 series plus resonators
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Gqs...eature=related

Delete the resonators and slap Flowmasters in.....

Quadcammer

This makes absolutely no sense. Why in gods name did you buy an S600 mercedes if you don't care about quiet or refinement...thats the whole point of the car.

Hey guys, let me buy a nearly silent luxo boat and turn it into a trashy loud beater...completely silly.

Vabene7

I like the luxury and the power of my car.
It may not be your cup of tea, but it's mine.
Maybe explain why anyone would do the same on a 2010 CL65......because it's what they prefer. There is no right or wrong here.
I respect your preference for refinement, but don't knock mine.

skrontz

Cannot agree more. Worse yet -- why let everyone else's ears suffer from the constant reminder of your imaginary coolness when you drive by? I don't care about your personal absence of taste and the need to "personalize" your car to the best of your abilities as long as it doesn't discomfort me and my preferences. I only hope the cops would write more fix it tickets.

tusabes

Before you criticize him, did you jokers even bother to watch the video I posted?

We arent talking about a Harley with straight pipes that wakes up the neighbors..we are talking about a nice deep growl that the DRIVER can hear and feel.

it is very unfortunate that some people think a Resonator delete is OK, but a custom louder aftermarket system is not. And worse yet, passing on your judgment of other forum members is in poor form.

Speak intelligently lest you sound like a fool (and sound worse than the stock exhaust!)

skrontz

Yes, I have. Some of us aren't deaf to the point where it no longer bothers us. It's definitely not just the driver who would hear it; maybe such a driver should just cut a hole in the floor to better appreciate "the sound."

tusabes

you are ridiculous. A 600 benz with a custom exhaust is still going to be quieter than a corvette, ferrari, lambo etc. Even a new s63 is louder, stock. Using Your line of reasoning, why dont you ban all those cars because their loud exhaust irritates you.

Your real gripe is that you look down on anyone performance tuning their Benz. And you feel compelled to pass judgment on others. Shame on you.

This is the wrong site for you, since mods are readily discussed and we dont need people poo pooing anyone trying to get info on mods.

Try the MB Club of America forums if you are a purist and only wish to associate with those committed to originality.

MBNiko

+1

I guess no one should ever improve/customize their cars because people's ears might get offended...