Instrument Cluster Removal
02-24-2008, 08:42 AM
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For what it is worth, I did not need to produce a recall letter. I took my car to the dealer and they replaced my failing cluster without issue.
I find it scary that there is such inconsistency in the way dealerships work. You would think they were all working for the same company.
I find it scary that there is such inconsistency in the way dealerships work. You would think they were all working for the same company.
Those that require a recall letter or "check the VIN" are simply not doing their elementary homework, and need a kick in the shins.
06-27-2009, 08:45 AM
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More W220 cluster problems
Hi.
I know this is an old thread, but I hope someone can help me.
Anybody have the schematics for the circuit board with the BUZ102S transistors on?
It is a Bosch board with product number 1038319021-10.
Seems to me that two of the BUZ102s are working in parallel. In between them and the large Siemens capacitor there is a component that is so badly burned that I cannot visually identify it. The location mentioned is where it is in the circuitry, physically it is located on the under side of the board, just below the large capacitor.
Considering where it is in the circuitry, this probably is a resistor, but does anybody know for sure? And if so, do you know what value to replace it with?
I know this is an old thread, but I hope someone can help me.
Anybody have the schematics for the circuit board with the BUZ102S transistors on?
It is a Bosch board with product number 1038319021-10.
Seems to me that two of the BUZ102s are working in parallel. In between them and the large Siemens capacitor there is a component that is so badly burned that I cannot visually identify it. The location mentioned is where it is in the circuitry, physically it is located on the under side of the board, just below the large capacitor.
Considering where it is in the circuitry, this probably is a resistor, but does anybody know for sure? And if so, do you know what value to replace it with?
06-28-2009, 04:01 AM
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maybe im missing something... but guys:
the dealership will replace your cluster for FREE.
why spend $15, none the less $1200 to fix it when the dealership will due to a recall? Regardless of if you got a letter or not, all ICs have an extended 10 year warranty on them...
the dealership will replace your cluster for FREE.
why spend $15, none the less $1200 to fix it when the dealership will due to a recall? Regardless of if you got a letter or not, all ICs have an extended 10 year warranty on them...
06-28-2009, 11:40 AM
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So did mine, but the recall is extended to all W220s if said I/C is failing. There was a 10 year warranty placed on the clusters. Only reason I can think of is if hes not in the USA
06-29-2009, 05:33 AM
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Has anyone out there had this done under "warranty" withOUT having some portion of the IC fail? In other words, can it be done as preventative if an owner is up against the 10 year extended next year and nothing has gone wrong yet?
06-29-2009, 11:51 AM
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Yes it can, and in my opinion should be done preventively. Mine would go out and come back on after a couple restarts, and when I took it in for replacement it was working fine. My SA even encouraged me to have it replaced regardless, since it is a safety issue and there is no cost. Definitely do not let the ten year extended warranty run out w/out replacing the IC!
but for a good cause, but I agree with Jayhawk
06-29-2009, 01:10 PM
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Thanks, but I call it common sense not lying. IMO, MB should have issued a formal Recall. What happens to those who's ICs go out after the extended warranty? They are screwed, and will have no choice but to shell out $1,500 to replace on their own dime. They may also be dead if the IC goes out on a busy highway after dark. I can tell you first hand that you can see absolutely nothing when it does. I even started keeping a flashlight close at hand just in case. This really is a serious safety issue, and I wouldn't be surprised if hundreds or thousands go out after the ten year warranty.
06-29-2009, 01:16 PM
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The tech who did the recall was obviously not experienced as he broke the stalk of the brightness adjustment knob and also a few clips for the frame of the cluster were snapped off.
10-07-2009, 10:06 PM
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Just to clarify some things: The cluster recall (which applied to certain VINs) applied to clusters with any of three specific possible defects, all of which showed up as a loss of lighting. The extended warranty applied to ALL U.S. W220s for 10 years from initial service date (which is later than the date of manufacture) - and was for ANY defect.
Have your dealer read the language of the documents. The extended warranty applies to any defect because it did not specify conditions under which it applied, or any limitations except the duration of the warranty - so it applies to any and all defects as a matter of law.
Have your dealer read the language of the documents. The extended warranty applies to any defect because it did not specify conditions under which it applied, or any limitations except the duration of the warranty - so it applies to any and all defects as a matter of law.
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10-07-2009, 11:38 PM
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Any idea if the recall includes other models? I have a CLK with the same problem.
Just to clarify some things: The cluster recall (which applied to certain VINs) applied to clusters with any of three specific possible defects, all of which showed up as a loss of lighting. The extended warranty applied to ALL U.S. W220s for 10 years from initial service date (which is later than the date of manufacture) - and was for ANY defect.
Have your dealer read the language of the documents. The extended warranty applies to any defect because it did not specify conditions under which it applied, or any limitations except the duration of the warranty - so it applies to any and all defects as a matter of law.
Have your dealer read the language of the documents. The extended warranty applies to any defect because it did not specify conditions under which it applied, or any limitations except the duration of the warranty - so it applies to any and all defects as a matter of law.
10-08-2009, 07:19 AM
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As stated earlier in this string and in others concerning the cluster recall and the subsequent extended warranty, the W220 S-Class and the W215 CL are covered.
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Ok so my situation is that my 2000 Mercedes Benz S430's cluster just failed. Since the warranty is extended 10 years and the cluster was recalled before, will the cluster still be fixed as of today for free? Vehicle was bought in 1999 and I am a second owner of the car. IS the warranty extended 10 years from previous service date? Can my cluster still be fixed for free under the warranty and recall?
10-05-2010, 09:37 PM
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S430
Does used I.C. replacement need to be reprogrammed?
If I buy a used IC on Internet/Ebay:
1/ Do I have to match the exact part No?( mine is A220 540 1151). I see on Ebay with description of S430 IC 2000-2006 with different only of last 4 digits. Is this OK?
(I have S430 year 2000)
2/ If Ok, then after installed it, do I need to have it reprogrammed by the dealer?
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1/ Do I have to match the exact part No?( mine is A220 540 1151). I see on Ebay with description of S430 IC 2000-2006 with different only of last 4 digits. Is this OK?
(I have S430 year 2000)
2/ If Ok, then after installed it, do I need to have it reprogrammed by the dealer?
Thx-
10-08-2010, 01:28 PM
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The previous owner bought the IC from Ebay and it ran for 4 years.
He just id not remember whether he had matched the part number nor the dealer reprogramming (most of times he had he car maintained by outside shops).
He just id not remember whether he had matched the part number nor the dealer reprogramming (most of times he had he car maintained by outside shops).
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I'm a newbie
I need help replacing the IC Power supply in my w220 2001 s430 (I hope I bought the right part)
I have the unit apart but the temp, fuel and tach needles are in the way to get to the 2nd circuit board that holds the power supply transformer. How do they come off??
I've seen what seems to be the same question but there was no detail on how to get to the transformer solder points
Do the needles simply pop off (the speedometer needle does)
They seem very stuck and I am afraid to pry on them to hard.
Thanks for any help
I need help replacing the IC Power supply in my w220 2001 s430 (I hope I bought the right part)
I have the unit apart but the temp, fuel and tach needles are in the way to get to the 2nd circuit board that holds the power supply transformer. How do they come off??
I've seen what seems to be the same question but there was no detail on how to get to the transformer solder points
Do the needles simply pop off (the speedometer needle does)
They seem very stuck and I am afraid to pry on them to hard.
Thanks for any help
10-31-2012, 11:20 AM
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Thought I would try this tread as well
I'm a newbie
I need help replacing the IC Power supply in my w220 2001 s430 (I hope I bought the right part)
I have the unit apart but the temp, fuel and tach needles are in the way to get to the 2nd circuit board that holds the power supply transformer. How do they come off??
I've seen what seems to be the same question but there was no detail on how to get to the transformer solder points
Do the needles simply pop off (the speedometer needle does)
They seem very stuck and I am afraid to pry on them to hard.
Thanks for any help
I'm a newbie
I need help replacing the IC Power supply in my w220 2001 s430 (I hope I bought the right part)
I have the unit apart but the temp, fuel and tach needles are in the way to get to the 2nd circuit board that holds the power supply transformer. How do they come off??
I've seen what seems to be the same question but there was no detail on how to get to the transformer solder points
Do the needles simply pop off (the speedometer needle does)
They seem very stuck and I am afraid to pry on them to hard.
Thanks for any help
