BMW wreck in Florida
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BMW wreck in Florida
Did you see this in the news?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/n...ash/#more-4511
What were they thinking?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/n...ash/#more-4511
What were they thinking?
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Irritating is that such irresponsible behavior merely fuels the public/political sentiment for more regs vs high-powered cars, lowered speed lims, speed cameras, etc etc...unfortunately, responsible drivers who enjoy high-powered cars (and often have mysteriously pristine driving records) will likely suffer the backlash....
Suspect socio-economics and career achievement levels predict driving behavior/maturity more accurately than chronologic age....
Some have/develop astute risk/reward judgment at an early age (e.g., many of the sharpest hedge fund traders/investors distinguish themselves in their early-mid 20s)....some develop risk/reward judgment later in life....but I suspect most guys never develop such judgment.....
Darwinian selection often prevails, as cars/driving entail serious physical risks....trading/investing entail mere financial risks....
Suspect socio-economics and career achievement levels predict driving behavior/maturity more accurately than chronologic age....
Some have/develop astute risk/reward judgment at an early age (e.g., many of the sharpest hedge fund traders/investors distinguish themselves in their early-mid 20s)....some develop risk/reward judgment later in life....but I suspect most guys never develop such judgment.....
Darwinian selection often prevails, as cars/driving entail serious physical risks....trading/investing entail mere financial risks....
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Did you see this in the news?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/n...ash/#more-4511
What were they thinking?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/n...ash/#more-4511
What were they thinking?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/228159-five-killed-2008-bmw-m5.html
In fact it's all over the web... an M5 at age 18? What were his parents thinking to allow access to such an inexperienced driver? (And no-one has the appropriate experience and judgement at that age) And at 3.00 am in the dark? Alas they have the rest of their lives to live with the consequences... a tragedy for the living as much as the deceased.
Chris
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cjf, will all due respect, would argue arbitrary assumptions/rules re: age vs maturity/judgment tend to be absurd....
Personally know far too many notable exceptions (esp in Manhattan and SiliconValley) to view such arbitrary age-ism as simply laughable.....in fact, both the financial and tech industries are often fueled by ideas/judgments/leadership of many 20-something founders/senior execs (and I've known many of these guys to be rather safe, capable drivers of high-perf cars
)....interestingly, many highly-regarded elder (45yo-ish) statesmen in these industries were often similarly young superstars back in the '80s....
In my expce, guys who were themselves young high-achievers early in their careers tend to be more comfortable allowing their young lieutenants to assume as much responsibility as they can handle....essential in any risk-taking/innovation-based culture....perhaps anathema to a simplistic chronologic seniority-based culture....
And I suspect parenting philosophies similarly vary as do cultures of varying industries/firms....w/varying degrees of "self-selection" and success....
Personally know far too many notable exceptions (esp in Manhattan and SiliconValley) to view such arbitrary age-ism as simply laughable.....in fact, both the financial and tech industries are often fueled by ideas/judgments/leadership of many 20-something founders/senior execs (and I've known many of these guys to be rather safe, capable drivers of high-perf cars
)....interestingly, many highly-regarded elder (45yo-ish) statesmen in these industries were often similarly young superstars back in the '80s....In my expce, guys who were themselves young high-achievers early in their careers tend to be more comfortable allowing their young lieutenants to assume as much responsibility as they can handle....essential in any risk-taking/innovation-based culture....perhaps anathema to a simplistic chronologic seniority-based culture....
And I suspect parenting philosophies similarly vary as do cultures of varying industries/firms....w/varying degrees of "self-selection" and success....
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Yes a generality perhaps WSH - but the underling statistics that accidents will happen at that age (and the market drives high insurance premiums etc) is a reality... there is a difference in taking risks and high achieving in your business/personal life which impacts only you in a non life-threatening manner... and taking risks at the expense of other peoples lives on the road. (or in your car)
So arbitrary - yes... A subset of 18 year olds may have natural judgement and appropriate caution with such powerful vehicles, but in lieu of actual driving experience/training I would assert the majority do not...
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So arbitrary - yes... A subset of 18 year olds may have natural judgement and appropriate caution with such powerful vehicles, but in lieu of actual driving experience/training I would assert the majority do not...
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Yes a generality perhaps WSH - but the underling statistics that accidents will happen at that age (and the market drives high insurance premiums etc) is a reality... there is a difference in taking risks and high achieving in your business/personal life which impacts only you in a non life-threatening manner... and taking risks at the expense of other peoples lives on the road. (or in your car)
So arbitrary - yes... A subset of 18 year olds may have natural judgement and appropriate caution with such powerful vehicles, but in lieu of actual driving experience/training I would assert the majority do not...
Chris
So arbitrary - yes... A subset of 18 year olds may have natural judgement and appropriate caution with such powerful vehicles, but in lieu of actual driving experience/training I would assert the majority do not...
Chris
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Lewis Hamilton lost the championship not because he was not highly talented, but because of experience. He gained a lot more experience from sliding off into the gravel in China.
Skill and training does not equal wisdom. But I am repeating what I put on the W211 AMG thread.
Skill and training does not equal wisdom. But I am repeating what I put on the W211 AMG thread.
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Lewis Hamilton lost the championship not because he was not highly talented, but because of experience. He gained a lot more experience from sliding off into the gravel in China.
Skill and training does not equal wisdom. But I am repeating what I put on the W211 AMG thread.
Skill and training does not equal wisdom. But I am repeating what I put on the W211 AMG thread.
we all know experience is obtaing with time
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