JasonLA

Hey guys, Im looking at picking up a s600 as a daily driver, was curious to hear from other owners what I should watch out for when buying used. I am looking for something low miles, all black. Any idea what I should expect to pay? I noticed a few other threads on here about wholesale prices, just curious what the real market value of an 07 is.

Also, anyone have experience with the Renntech chip?

Thanks!

trumpet1

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were wanting to buy mine. I have the Renntech chip and it is incredibly fast. Really , there is not much to worry about on any of the W221 S600s. The only major issue I've had to deal with on mine was an idler pulley that went bad and it was replaced within 3 days at my MB dealer. That was also experienced by a couple of other members here on the forum. Other than that, nothing really to speak of. My car has 25000 miles on it and I suspect I could get $85K for it from a person to person sale but it would probably only get $75K on wholesale at a dealer at this time.

I would say you would have to pay about $1K more for every one thousand miles less than what my car has on it. For example, a car just like mine with 15K miles on it might get $95K retail. With only 10K miles....$100K retail.

Just my feeling on it. My car is super, super , extra super clean and was updated to the 2008 software and also has the Video in Motion module in place so I would demand at least $90K for mine if someone walked up and wanted to buy it.

I seem to get about 15000 miles on a set of rear tires and 20000 miles on front tires. They are staggered on S600s.

WSH

Agree w/trumpet....anecdotal feedback from various owners of '07-'08 600s is that reliability is superb....

May want to figure out which dealers in your region are likely to start seeing the 2-yr-leased '07 600/65s being returned to dealer....

Would suspect better dealers w/deep repeat cust bases will more often see carefully-maintained '07 600/65 w/<15K mis being returned for new, '09 iterations....

vonbeeler

I firmly beleive this is the best sedan available in the market. The only other choice would be the 65. I've have had no issues. Trumpets pricing estimates a right on at about $85k. Mileage could effect. Find the right car. Some dealers are pricing way above what they will accept. Maybe $15kish above???
If you find a blk/blk low mile at dealer I would start at $75.

Mrkhan347

fwiw,
i have an offer on the table with a dealer in florida, for an 07 s600 with 13k miles, loaded, for 84500, shipped to me in PA. i have a feeling this is a good deal?

cjf_moraga

Actually that sounds pretty good to me... Still fairly low mileage... the same price as a newer S550!

Chris

Mrkhan347

cjf_moraga,

i also thought this was a good deal. pretty much a steal. My contact also said he can add renntech mod for 4500 more to give it 600+hp. thats one luxurious fighter jet!

Mercutio.Mont

Awesome deal - is it CPO?

trumpet1

Grab it!

WSH

I admire the boldness of buying a nearly $100K used car from an honest used car dealer (is that an oxymoron???) in a distant region....w/no chance to physically examine/drive before entering transaction...perhaps the risks are already priced in...perhaps not....

trumpet1

Where/what dealership in Florida?

ahmadkshuja

Seems too good to be true ... May be it is

In that case, good for you!!!

Mrkhan347

wsh,

this is the exact same thing i told my dealer contact down there. I just cant seem to accept buying a car without a physical check up of it. He did, however, invite me down to inspect myself, or have MBUSA inspect it on my behalf.

pretty odd story behind it as well, apparently it was stolen from the MB MIAMI, and was recovered 7 months later, with nothing wrong with the vehicle.

The vehicle is covered by the remained of the MB Warranty, and the vehicle, as far as i can see, is in good condition.

Im going to continue to talk to this guy and may take a trip down there, and or have MBUSA inspect on my behalf. If god willing, this car will be in my driveway.

Mrkhan347

trumpet1,

ebizautos, based out of west palm beach.

trumpet1

Ok. The reason I asked is I live in Alabama and if it had been in the northern part of Florida, I would have checked it out for you, but wpb is a little too far for me. Good luck with your investigation of it.

cjf_moraga

That sets off alarm bells for me... though the vehicle might appear in good condition, who knows how it was driven, stored, or otherwise treated during those 7 months... Cosmetically it might look fine... but underneath the surface...? It is unlikely that the thief had any owners pride in the vehicle... For that amount of money I would not want anything less than absolute certainty about the vehicles history... and a cast iron guarantee from MB to cover you if anything untoward should turn up...

As you are already contemplating spending $80K+ would you not obtain more peace of mind with a vehicle with a more reputable history... even if it is a few thousand more?

Chris

WSH

Fully agree w/cjf's obsvns...

Life's too short to deal w/"stories" in any signif business tscn...

Suspect any competent dealer (and would rather buy from a well-reputed MB dealer) in a more "reputable" urban region (don't know many less legit places than FL/LV/LA/SD) will, over next few mths, have several '07 600/65 being returned by known repeat custs after a 2yr lease....would rather sort through those cars....and, if needed, pay a few dollars more....let's not forget that $100K cars are discretionary....be as picky/skeptical as desired....we're in a recession/credit crisis....tremendous downward pressure exists on prices of any new/used car, incl MB/Ferrari, etc....

Good luck....more importantly, would perform careful due diligence before signing to anything....

vonbeeler

OK so Its a theft recovery. That changes everything from my previous opinion of $85k being fair. That knocks at least $10,000 or more off value.
This will be reported on CARFAX and AUTOCHECK. $85k is too much. Also when it comes time to trade or sell in a few years this will be a huge issue for dealers and endbuyers and likely will cost you additional $10k depreciation on sell side. The car might be perfect but that blemish on the record will scare buyers. If you find the car is perfect through independent inspection $75k is top I would pay. Take your time. It should be easy to find blk/blk low mi no story for 85.

vonbeeler

Keep in mind if this dealer bought this at an auction the theft recovery has to be disclosed. I'm sure the dealer got it for $65 to $70k.

Mrkhan347

cjf_moraga,

exactly. Used will always be used, whether or not it was CPO, its still used. This kind of deal, compares to hitting on 17.

Mrkhan347

vonbeeler,

thanks for this post. Im going to the email the dealer and discuss this with him. 75 k for a 600 in perfect condition(?) and only 13k miles is a pretty solid deal.


PS: what do all you guys do for a living? just curious as to the standard of people driving these vehicles.

vonbeeler

Also not sure if you saw previous posts but dealer offered $75k for my car blk/blk AMG body 22k miles perfect no story. So theft recevery should be about 10 off of that (wholesale).

Business owner. If you need some steel for commercial construction non residential low rise. I'm the connect.

cmcjo

Yep, vonbeeler is absolutely right. The title is most likely marked and carfax will report it as a recovery which will eliminate alot of potential buyers. Post the vin and or get the report.

Mrkhan347

vonbeeler,

will def keep that in mind. and i wish the best of luck and prosperity for not only you, but your business as well.

cmcjo,

nice stable of vehicles you have. PORSCHE CARRERA GT

if you ever feel tired of the car, and dont have any use of it, ill be more than happy to pay for shipping of it to my residence.