Next S-Class al hybrid?
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Next S-Class al hybrid?
Unless I have missed it, I have not seen anyone comment on this story that the next S-Class will be ALL hybrid...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/merce...ory?id=8521160
To me this just sounds like eco-posturing on MB's part - the (relatively) small volume S-Class is hardly the biggest threat to the environment. Is MB really going to lose a significant part of its market who do not want underpowered hybrids - I don't think so. (Unless they do a V12 hybrid :-))
Chris
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/merce...ory?id=8521160
To me this just sounds like eco-posturing on MB's part - the (relatively) small volume S-Class is hardly the biggest threat to the environment. Is MB really going to lose a significant part of its market who do not want underpowered hybrids - I don't think so. (Unless they do a V12 hybrid :-))
Chris
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Big flip-flop from Mercedes on this news.
I thought, they are promoting diesels not hybrids.
Extremely risky move (if it happens).
I thought, they are promoting diesels not hybrids.
Extremely risky move (if it happens).
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VW has Veyron V16 sedan on the way and during Bubble yrs destroyed 65 sales (AMG has done a simply awful job in marketing 65 which is brilliantly engineered and now debugged after reliability issues for first ~3 yrs) by selling those POS but rapper wannabe-friendly 12 cyl Bents (~10K/yr Bents in heyday vs ~1K/yr 65s)
Living/working on commie-leaning SF Peninsula, understand the eco-BS...but lots of wealthy engineers in SiliconValley are addicted to commuting via new 65s and G550s....unlikely to change...nor are consumption habits of our brand-fixated, 65/G550-addicted 3rdWorld pals in Mideast/Chindia/Russia (at least at their London/MonteCarlo wkend houses)
VW has Veyron V16 sedan on the way and during Bubble yrs destroyed 65 sales (AMG has done a simply awful job in marketing 65 which is brilliantly engineered and now debugged after reliability issues for first ~3 yrs) by selling those POS but rapper wannabe-friendly 12 cyl Bents (~10K/yr Bents in heyday vs ~1K/yr 65s)
Living/working on commie-leaning SF Peninsula, understand the eco-BS...but lots of wealthy engineers in SiliconValley are addicted to commuting via new 65s and G550s....unlikely to change...nor are consumption habits of our brand-fixated, 65/G550-addicted 3rdWorld pals in Mideast/Chindia/Russia (at least at their London/MonteCarlo wkend houses)
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Electric propulsion is the future.. How are you going to feel when 3319 ft/lbs of twist in an Audi R8 passes you silently in the night ;-)
http://jalopnik.com/5359733/audi-e+t...lectric-torque
http://jalopnik.com/5359733/audi-e+t...lectric-torque
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Electric propulsion is the future.. How are you going to feel when 3319 ft/lbs of twist in an Audi R8 passes you silently in the night ;-)
http://jalopnik.com/5359733/audi-e+t...lectric-torque
http://jalopnik.com/5359733/audi-e+t...lectric-torque
Actually one of my colleagues has a Tesla and its performance is impressive - even if it is the size of an overgrown go-kart.
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VW has Veyron V16 sedan on the way and during Bubble yrs destroyed 65 sales (AMG has done a simply awful job in marketing 65 which is brilliantly engineered and now debugged after reliability issues for first ~3 yrs) by selling those POS but rapper wannabe-friendly 12 cyl Bents (~10K/yr Bents in heyday vs ~1K/yr 65s)
VW has Veyron V16 sedan on the way and during Bubble yrs destroyed 65 sales (AMG has done a simply awful job in marketing 65 which is brilliantly engineered and now debugged after reliability issues for first ~3 yrs) by selling those POS but rapper wannabe-friendly 12 cyl Bents (~10K/yr Bents in heyday vs ~1K/yr 65s)
Chris
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Unless I have missed it, I have not seen anyone comment on this story that the next S-Class will be ALL hybrid...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/merce...ory?id=8521160
To me this just sounds like eco-posturing on MB's part - the (relatively) small volume S-Class is hardly the biggest threat to the environment. Is MB really going to lose a significant part of its market who do not want underpowered hybrids - I don't think so. (Unless they do a V12 hybrid :-))
Chris
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/merce...ory?id=8521160
To me this just sounds like eco-posturing on MB's part - the (relatively) small volume S-Class is hardly the biggest threat to the environment. Is MB really going to lose a significant part of its market who do not want underpowered hybrids - I don't think so. (Unless they do a V12 hybrid :-))
Chris
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The idea appeals but for a minor point: it would make all models unnecessarily heavier than they can be. Having a V6 or V8 plus hybrid could make sense, but I don't know about the V12. And there should never, ever, be an S Class without an available V12.
Completely OOT, but have you noticed the idiocy of referring to V10, V12 and V16 engines as multi-cylinder engines? As opposed to a monocylinder 4, 6 and 8-cyl? :?
Completely OOT, but have you noticed the idiocy of referring to V10, V12 and V16 engines as multi-cylinder engines? As opposed to a monocylinder 4, 6 and 8-cyl? :?
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The idea appeals but for a minor point: it would make all models unnecessarily heavier than they can be. Having a V6 or V8 plus hybrid could make sense, but I don't know about the V12. And there should never, ever, be an S Class without an available V12.
Completely OOT, but have you noticed the idiocy of referring to V10, V12 and V16 engines as multi-cylinder engines? As opposed to a monocylinder 4, 6 and 8-cyl? :?
Completely OOT, but have you noticed the idiocy of referring to V10, V12 and V16 engines as multi-cylinder engines? As opposed to a monocylinder 4, 6 and 8-cyl? :?
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Living/working on commie-leaning SF Peninsula, understand the eco-BS...but lots of wealthy engineers in SiliconValley are addicted to commuting via new 65s and G550s....unlikely to change...nor are consumption habits of our brand-fixated, 65/G550-addicted 3rdWorld pals in Mideast/Chindia/Russia (at least at their London/MonteCarlo wkend houses)
Living/working on commie-leaning SF Peninsula, understand the eco-BS...but lots of wealthy engineers in SiliconValley are addicted to commuting via new 65s and G550s....unlikely to change...nor are consumption habits of our brand-fixated, 65/G550-addicted 3rdWorld pals in Mideast/Chindia/Russia (at least at their London/MonteCarlo wkend houses)
