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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 01:59 PM
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Tire size 4 matic to staggered.

hey guys looking to stagger the wheels on my 10 s550 4 matic with some factory reps in 20" perhaps. what is the correct staggered size?
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 03:42 PM
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Depends on the weather
Although staggered is not recommended on 4matics, it is done with no issues at all. The oem staggered sizes are:

Front: 255/35/20
Rear: 275/35/20
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Ok that's the size I thought. Thanks!! you runnin the same size on the 600?
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Ok that's the size I thought. Thanks!! you runnin the same size on the 600?
No, I have 255/40/20 front and 275/35/20 rear. I am putting my 285's back on the rear sometime soon though since I pushed that little metal tab in that was causing the rubbing.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:21 PM
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you would run the toyos again?
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The OEM staggered is a safe bet and looks proportional too as far as sidewall height, and the impact on ride quality is minimal vs 19's. Rubbing on the rears tends to be a rim offset issue rather than a tire tread block width problem.

A 9.5" on a 35mm offset (the typical replica offset) and OEM spec 20" rear tires should not rub. I'd say run those factory spec 20's on wheels with a 35mm (or greater) offset and you should be good to go.

OEM Spec is 275/35 rear and 255/35 front. That gives you a 2% variance in rolling diameter, well within the 3% margin of safety recommended for AWD staggered set ups.

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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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you would run the toyos again?
Yes! I love them and they are quiet with an excellent grip in wet weather from my experience.

I got them from tread depot.
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Cool I'll look into those, did you get new sensors? Where did u get new lugs from? Just pulled the trigger on s63 reps.
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Cool I'll look into those, did you get new sensors? Where did u get new lugs from? Just pulled the trigger on s63 reps.
advanceauto...they are 51.99 each, but i got them for 40% off at the time using a coupon code online and picked them up in the store. You can reuse your old sensors but I just put new ones on. If you put your old wheels back on the sensors will already be in there and you can just swap them. If you don't plan to put your old wheels back on, then takem them out and put them in the new wheels.

These below are for 07-09. If your car is 10+ you need the 433mhz sensors.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/v...earchTerm=tpms


You can get lugs from amazon or ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-BLACK-CONE-SEAT-LUG-BOLTS-14X1-5-THREAD-PITCH-28MM-SHANK/251775351512?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29980%26meid%3Dbf6857125c944f4bbe12d0b0e7ba0f94%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D151414526744&rt=nc

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I think I need 315hz like those say no? found them on ebay oem looks like for 85.00 shipped if there the correct ones. I guess I can test fit the wheels w my existing lugs when they come in, not sure how to tell if I need different lugs though? how r u getting 40-50% off at advance? looks like 15% off.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 01:17 AM
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I think I need 315hz like those say no? found them on ebay oem looks like for 85.00 shipped if there the correct ones. I guess I can test fit the wheels w my existing lugs when they come in, not sure how to tell if I need different lugs though? how r u getting 40-50% off at advance? looks like 15% off.
all 4 for $85 shipped?! thats some deal

share the link please haha

i found one at amazon for about $130 for all four for my 2013.
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I think I need 315hz like those say no? found them on ebay oem looks like for 85.00 shipped if there the correct ones. I guess I can test fit the wheels w my existing lugs when they come in, not sure how to tell if I need different lugs though? how r u getting 40-50% off at advance? looks like 15% off.
use code TRT41. You get 40.00 off of 100.00. Buy online and pick them up in the store. I get akebonos from there also. You just have to use different codes and break up your order to get the best discount. You can buy 2 and then buy 2 more separately.

Ebay has them also cheap.. I just hate waiting for shipping for things unless they can do overnight shipping so I pay the extra for local sales. :-)


Your lug nuts will be too long. They will screw in and once they get to a certain point they will stop and not sit in the hole, you will have space between the wheel and lug nut.

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Originally Posted by 1bad540
I think I need 315hz like those say no? found them on ebay oem looks like for 85.00 shipped if there the correct ones. I guess I can test fit the wheels w my existing lugs when they come in, not sure how to tell if I need different lugs though? how r u getting 40-50% off at advance? looks like 15% off.

Its better to make sure... I thought I had those, bought and installed them, then I realized that I needed 433Mhz. Now I have the "tire pressure monitors inoperable" on my screen.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 08:22 AM
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ouch, how do you know which ones you need?
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ouch, how do you know which ones you need?
These below are for 07-09. If your car is 10+ you need the 433mhz sensors.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/v...earchTerm=tpms
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Originally Posted by 1bad540
I think I need 315hz like those say no? found them on ebay oem looks like for 85.00 shipped if there the correct ones. I guess I can test fit the wheels w my existing lugs when they come in, not sure how to tell if I need different lugs though? how r u getting 40-50% off at advance? looks like 15% off.

Just made an offer to the $85 ebay one. They accepted my first offer of $75. Seller respond was very fast too!
They dont have warranty on the tpms but they said they will take care of their customer
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The lug seats are different on the reps as well. They usually take an Audi spec ball lug. Check with the vendor of your specific wheels.
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Just made an offer to the $85 ebay one. They accepted my first offer of $75. Seller respond was very fast too!
They dont have warranty on the tpms but they said they will take care of their customer

Ebay is usually pretty good. I've purchased sensors for my range rover and never had an issue with them.
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Originally Posted by WHPH28
These below are for 07-09. If your car is 10+ you need the 433mhz sensors.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/v...earchTerm=tpms


you sure?? I thought 10 up needed 315?
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you sure?? I thought 10 up needed 315?
Ordered 433 for my 2013.
If you want to make sure just call the dealer =)
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Oh yea? do they know by vin or something?
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Oh yea? do they know by vin or something?
You might not even need to give them vin number but yeah it might help
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you sure?? I thought 10 up needed 315?
10+ needs 433mhz.
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yup you are correct, my dealer said 433 thanks broseph!!!
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cool, I Ordered them looks like they will also accept 70.00!! Not bad. I also got a quote of 850 for conti dws installed from a local tire place so all in all think ill be under 2k for rims tires and sensors. Now I need some lowering links and akebonos!!!
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