S-Class (W221) 2007-2013: S 320 CDI, S 350, S 450, S 500, S 550, S 420 CDI, S 600

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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Which years have the issue?
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 11:04 PM
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ugh. be careful what you wish for. the g class has some very serious drivetrain issues on its own. it is a fairly simple vehicle to fix, but it is very expensive parts-wise.
sounds like a vehicle with some banking requirements
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwcrocop
Which years have the issue?
All years. The g- class was designed as s rock crawler and generally low speed operation. It has never managed to depart sufficiently from its roots to be reliable for civilian high speed operation. The only thing going for it is the high resale value.
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 10:53 AM
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Update: star code 0522. Diagnosis of tumble flap intake manifold.

Tumble flap shafts sticks in non actuated position.

Compression test next.

What would cause this code? Would it cause a misfire?
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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Here is what the mechanic said:

Well.. Let me tell you.. We did full engine static compression test.. Good, swapped the coils, swapped the spark plug,swapped the fuel injectors , 5 -8 , all good.. Same failure.. Cyl #8 , probe the engine computer to see if it's was sending signal to injector.. Ok. On the dynamic compression test.. It was 65psi.. While the others was 85.. We will do a leak down test next.. Narrowing down a little at a time
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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Leak test done and it is less than 10%.

Compression test showed cylinder 8 20psi less than the others.

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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwcrocop
Leak test done and it is less than 10%.

Compression test showed cylinder 8 20psi less than the others.

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Sell post #6 of this thread:

https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...mble-flap.html
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 04:50 PM
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I saw that; but the mechanic said it was very strange that there were not more than one misfire or random misfires which is consistent with a broken or worn tumble flap.

Manifold is coming off so he will see.

Brainstorming if it's anything else additionally
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwcrocop
I saw that; but the mechanic said it was very strange that there were not more than one misfire or random misfires which is consistent with a broken or worn tumble flap.

Manifold is coming off so he will see.

Brainstorming if it's anything else additionally
It certainly wouldn't hurt to purchase the new aluminum flap and replace the plastic one since the manifold is coming out any way.
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bmwcrocop
I saw that; but the mechanic said it was very strange that there were not more than one misfire or random misfires which is consistent with a broken or worn tumble flap.

Manifold is coming off so he will see.

Brainstorming if it's anything else additionally
Let us know how much he's charging to remove the manifold. I haven't had this specific issue. . .yet, so I'm interested in the cost to remove and repair a manifold - IF that is the issue. Thanks.
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 04:47 PM
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0703 P0335 B70 (Crankshaft Hall sensor): Check wiring of signal line and voltage. (P0335)
0851 P0444 Y58/1 (Purge control valve): Open circuit / Switchover valve permanently closed (P0444)
0629 P0300 Misfiring (P0300)
0630 P0300 Misfiring (P0300)
0632 P0300 Misfiring (P0300)
0657 P0307 Misfiring of cylinder 7: Damages TWC (P0307)
0658 P0307 Misfiring of cylinder 7: Worsening of exhaust emission values (P0307)
0660 P0307 Misfiring of cylinder 7: Worsening of exhaust emission values after engine start (P0307)
0661 P0308 Misfiring of cylinder 8: Damages TWC (P0308)
0662 P0308 Misfiring of cylinder 8: Worsening of exhaust emission values (P0308)
0664 P0308 Misfiring of cylinder 8: Worsening of exhaust emission values after engine start (P0308)

Next step, swap coil packs to different cylinders if fault code follows, replace affected coil packs. If not and engine # is within range, perform compression test “may” be cylinder head. See bulletin here: https://mbworld.org/forums/cls-coupe...ml#post6857762
What is the cost from the dealer to fix if it is value seat wear?

Would this item be excluded in an aftermarket warranty? Exclusions include burnt valves and valve grinding.

Would spraying some sea foam help as a temporary fix? How else could you treat the valves?

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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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#8 is most likely a valve guide. if left alone for a long time it will also take the valve seat and then the cam shaft with it.

head needs to come off and machined/ new guide inserted. cam lobes need to be inspected for abnormal wear.
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Just for reference.. My car did the same CEL flashy thing and my tech said that was over fuel. I had one bad injector.
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#8 is most likely a valve guide. if left alone for a long time it will also take the valve seat and then the cam shaft with it.

head needs to come off and machined/ new guide inserted. cam lobes need to be inspected for abnormal wear.
Estimate for cost?
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 08:09 PM
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Just for reference.. My car did the same CEL flashy thing and my tech said that was over fuel. I had one bad injector.
Fuel injectors switched -- same issue.
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Originally Posted by jcwbenz
Estimate for cost?
assuming that is the issue you are looking at $3500-5000 ballpark at the dealer.

depends on what they find. as i said- left alone the problem will drag more expensive repairs
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
0703 P0335 B70 (Crankshaft Hall sensor): Check wiring of signal line and voltage. (P0335)
0851 P0444 Y58/1 (Purge control valve): Open circuit / Switchover valve permanently closed (P0444)
0629 P0300 Misfiring (P0300)
0630 P0300 Misfiring (P0300)
0632 P0300 Misfiring (P0300)
0657 P0307 Misfiring of cylinder 7: Damages TWC (P0307)
0658 P0307 Misfiring of cylinder 7: Worsening of exhaust emission values (P0307)
0660 P0307 Misfiring of cylinder 7: Worsening of exhaust emission values after engine start (P0307)
0661 P0308 Misfiring of cylinder 8: Damages TWC (P0308)
0662 P0308 Misfiring of cylinder 8: Worsening of exhaust emission values (P0308)
0664 P0308 Misfiring of cylinder 8: Worsening of exhaust emission values after engine start (P0308)

Next step, swap coil packs to different cylinders if fault code follows, replace affected coil packs. If not and engine # is within range, perform compression test “may” be cylinder head. See bulletin here: https://mbworld.org/forums/cls-coupe...ml#post6857762
What is the range of repair cost at the dealership for repair associated with the Bulletin?

Are we talking 4K? 5K? 6K? More?
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