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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 08:36 PM
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Still a misfire on cylinder 3

So I am at loss here . I have replaced all the coils, spark plugs , and air mass flow sensor. I don’t have a check engine light but when I went to my mechanic he connected the scanner and is gives an error p0303 cylinder 3. He checked the spacing of the spark plug and also swapped the coils. He told me after swapping the coils to drive it for a bit and see if the code poops again. I really don’t know what else to look for. You can hear the misfire as it has a bit of a rough idle. The mechanic said that it’s not enough to trigger an check engine light

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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 09:38 PM
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Could be the injector. The P0303 just means misfire, so any part of fuel, spark or air or a combination could be responsible.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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Ok, so with that said I have replaced spark plugs, coils, maf sensor. What’s your suggestion? Injector being replaced?
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 09:52 PM
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It is just one cylinder, so might just have it checked. Injectors can be tested to verify their spray pattern. Is the car being diagnosed just on codes alone or is your mechanic using the Mercedes SDS? I don't like to just replace stuff because it can get expensive quickly!
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 10:56 PM
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HE does not have the sds. Just has a very expensive OBD II
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 03:18 PM
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Replacing parts is not the way to go (been there, done that, it's a hit and miss, mostly a miss). For the next steps I would go with injector testings (all the voltages etc, using a scope if needed, there are procedures posted). I once had a similar case, after replacing all the ignition parts, replacing the injector on the offending cylinder etc it turned out the problem was that one REPLACEMENT electrical part was bad. So the best investment is finding a mechanic who has spent years troubleshooting MB misfire and really has a clue, or devote time and equipment money to become such an expert yourself :-). There is a story on one of the forums where a dealer replaced everything, and went to disassembling/replacing internal engine components and did not find the root problem in case of a V12 engine - after the engine was put together it was still misfiring (rare, but I assume true). Let us know how it gets resolved

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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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George,

my mechanic is very good with Mercedes . He said that it could be the ecu . He has owned over 100 cars and is straight from Germany . I am hoping it’s something stupid.
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 08:00 PM
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The reason I did the coils, plugs, and maf is that I had many misfires. At first and then afterwards they all went away. Like I said there isn’t an check light on
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So there isn't a check engine light on? Does the engine shake when running? Idle? cruising? S550? Mileage? Could be a worn out intake or exhaust valve seat.
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 05:22 AM
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2007 Mercedes s550, 150k. The engine doesn’t shake at all. You can hear n feel it when the car is idling. It’s very faint sound n feel. The valve gasket was replaced along with the other parts that I listed above. Including engine mounts The p303 is pending and according to my mechanic the misfire is sovmittor that it doesn’t trigger a check engine light.
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by clb00196
2007 Mercedes s550, 150k. The engine doesn’t shake at all. You can hear n feel it when the car is idling. It’s very faint sound n feel. The valve gasket was replaced along with the other parts that I listed above. Including engine mounts The p303 is pending and according to my mechanic the misfire is sovmittor that it doesn’t trigger a check engine light.
p0303 is a code and i am not sure what you mean by sovmittor but it is being triggered for a reason. Every time you swap coils over to another cylinder or plugs...you have to make sure you delete the code.

I had cylinder 8 misfiring bad. I swapped coils from another cylinder and the code still showed cylinder 8 as misfiring. Then I turned off the car, delete the code and turn it back on. 1 minute after it started showing cylinder 7 (as it had the bad coil in it from cylinder 8). So i had a bad coil which I replaced and all is good.

I hope your mechanic delete the code when doing a coil test. On that note, assuming he did, I would see if you can swap the injectors. It is rare for the ECU to go bad and misfire cylinders on these cars. At least I haven't heard of such issues with the M273..
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 03:59 PM
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Anyone have instructions on how to remove the injectors to swap?
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The valve seat was my problem. Just a suggestion before taking it all apart, do a compression check first, then if your mechanic has a bore scope stick in the sparkplug hole and turn it over and see if the valves are seating. I had a valve that had carbon build up on the seat and it was throwing the cod,e.
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mit,
did you use a fuel injector cleaner?
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This looks very plausible to me
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