W221 S320 GEARBOX
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W221 S320 GEARBOX
Hi guys, the wifes gearbox is behaving oddly.
2008 S320 W221 7speed auto.
It have a precautionary gearbox flush (no service history, only 50,000 miles) 2 weeks ago be we find that under 'vigorous acceleration' in either comfort or sport mode the gearbox will make rapid jerky changes between gears and so we have to ease off the peddle.
Under normal driving the gear change is ultra smooth without issues, except under vigorous acceleration.
Any ideas anyone on the cause? I serviced the car couple of months ago. Thanks guys
2008 S320 W221 7speed auto.
It have a precautionary gearbox flush (no service history, only 50,000 miles) 2 weeks ago be we find that under 'vigorous acceleration' in either comfort or sport mode the gearbox will make rapid jerky changes between gears and so we have to ease off the peddle.
Under normal driving the gear change is ultra smooth without issues, except under vigorous acceleration.
Any ideas anyone on the cause? I serviced the car couple of months ago. Thanks guys
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these gearboxes have a fairly checkered history and do not change well.
they need a fluid and filter change around 5 years max and every 37k miles
then the usual failures come in from 7 years of life
electro plate speed sensor a 10 cents device, dies and its 1k repair although so common you might get it done for 600 these days. Its coded to the car and officialy only Main Merc dealers can fit the part
when trans fluid is left in to long on early cars it causes further fun, the metal and debris runs round ripping seals and o rings to bits and causes conductivity issues it shouldn't
often you need to look at fill rates to see if it takes to long to apply clutches... either travelling too far or oil seeping past worn seals on the actuators.
the TC dies, the lock up clutch fails particularly with dirty trans fluid
some mercs the trans cooler was made wrong and the engine coolant leaks in to the gearbox and trashes everything
you need to take to someone experienced with the right gear to check it out and read fault codes and check transmission adaptions
they need a fluid and filter change around 5 years max and every 37k miles
then the usual failures come in from 7 years of life
electro plate speed sensor a 10 cents device, dies and its 1k repair although so common you might get it done for 600 these days. Its coded to the car and officialy only Main Merc dealers can fit the part
when trans fluid is left in to long on early cars it causes further fun, the metal and debris runs round ripping seals and o rings to bits and causes conductivity issues it shouldn't
often you need to look at fill rates to see if it takes to long to apply clutches... either travelling too far or oil seeping past worn seals on the actuators.
the TC dies, the lock up clutch fails particularly with dirty trans fluid
some mercs the trans cooler was made wrong and the engine coolant leaks in to the gearbox and trashes everything
you need to take to someone experienced with the right gear to check it out and read fault codes and check transmission adaptions
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Apparently the wife floored twice the other day and it only happened on the one occasion so its not every single time.
I will plug in my code reader soon, the reason I havent already done so is because nothing comes up on the dash.
I will plug in my code reader soon, the reason I havent already done so is because nothing comes up on the dash.
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unless a posh code reader its unlikely it will pull codes from the gearbox... expect to see lots of fun, most are just junk where it had a moment and a key on off cycle meant it got over itself
mines thrown gearbox codes randomly for 4 years, sometimes they come back in 3 month but it works ok,others they can vanish for 6 months
occasionally (3 times in 5 years) I need to use steering wheel buttons to make it change up.... but then I see this on others,so without wishing to upset people... these are not good boxes,
mines thrown gearbox codes randomly for 4 years, sometimes they come back in 3 month but it works ok,others they can vanish for 6 months
occasionally (3 times in 5 years) I need to use steering wheel buttons to make it change up.... but then I see this on others,so without wishing to upset people... these are not good boxes,
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2010 E350 Cabriolet (A207), 2007 (MY08) S350 W221, 2013 ML350 BT W166
Apart from listening to the harbingers of doom, you can try a gearbox reset:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCqYZpwbmgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCqYZpwbmgc
Having issues with my transmission, i attempted once to do a reset but i have no idea if i did it successfully or not
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2010 E350 Cabriolet (A207), 2007 (MY08) S350 W221, 2013 ML350 BT W166
I guess when using the key theres 3 positions: O (key inserted only) 1 (one click for accessories) 2 (two clicks all dash lights on).
So would this be correct to do?
Insert key and turn to position 2.
Press down all the way on the gas pedal for 10 seconds.
Now for this part when it says turn off the key would you turn it back to the 1 or the O position? Then release pedal.
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that procedure is a total waste of time, its a pointless reset on a hair brained attempt to change gear to suit your driving style
within 3 miles it will have adapted to suite the way you are driving... (note this is a gear change point adaption) and not anything to do with real adaptions where the ecu compares how thing happened, to how they should have happened and attempts to compensate to suit wear tear or bad manufacturing.
the whole idea a chip with the brain power of a dead ant, can perceive the road and weather conditions ahead and your ability to drive or not and then make sensible choices about changing gear at the right time is an utter joke....
within 3 miles it will have adapted to suite the way you are driving... (note this is a gear change point adaption) and not anything to do with real adaptions where the ecu compares how thing happened, to how they should have happened and attempts to compensate to suit wear tear or bad manufacturing.
the whole idea a chip with the brain power of a dead ant, can perceive the road and weather conditions ahead and your ability to drive or not and then make sensible choices about changing gear at the right time is an utter joke....
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you are totally wasting the guys time... and giving completely false hope. it can't help resolve a worn components inside the box
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I bought the car for the wife last christmas and has been used purely as a CEO limousine in London by a Japanese firm so the driving style is going to be somewhat different to the wifes, so a reset cannot do it any harm.
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CONTINENTAL 7G-TRONIC (722.9) fault codes
•Y3/8N1 – Turbine speed sensor
•P0717 – The signal from component Y3/8n1 (Turbine speed sensor (VGS)) is not available
•P0718 – Component Y3/8n1 (Turbine speed sensor (VGS)) is defective
•Y3/8N2 – Internal speed sensor
•P2200 – The signal from component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) in not available
•P2201 – Component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) is defective
•P2767 – The signal from component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) in not available
•P2768 – Component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) is defective Other internal speed sensor error codes: P2204, P2205, P2206, P2207
•Y3/8N3 – Output speed sensor
•P0722 – Output Speed Sensor No Signal
•P0723 – Output Speed Sensor (VGS) is defective
•Y3/8S1 – Transmission range sensor
•P0705 – Transmission Range Sensor Circuit Malfunction
•P2716 – Pressure Control Solenoid “D” Electrical
Common problems
•P0705 - Transmission Range Sensor (TRS) Circuit Malfunction
•RPM sensor faults - Fault codes: 0717, 0718, 0722, 0723, 2200, 2201, 2204, 2205, 2206, 2207, 2767, 2768; transmission in limp-home mode (occasionally)
•Y3/8N1 – Turbine speed sensor
•P0717 – The signal from component Y3/8n1 (Turbine speed sensor (VGS)) is not available
•P0718 – Component Y3/8n1 (Turbine speed sensor (VGS)) is defective
•Y3/8N2 – Internal speed sensor
•P2200 – The signal from component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) in not available
•P2201 – Component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) is defective
•P2767 – The signal from component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) in not available
•P2768 – Component Y3/8n2 (Internal speed sensor (VGS)) is defective Other internal speed sensor error codes: P2204, P2205, P2206, P2207
•Y3/8N3 – Output speed sensor
•P0722 – Output Speed Sensor No Signal
•P0723 – Output Speed Sensor (VGS) is defective
•Y3/8S1 – Transmission range sensor
•P0705 – Transmission Range Sensor Circuit Malfunction
•P2716 – Pressure Control Solenoid “D” Electrical
Common problems
•P0705 - Transmission Range Sensor (TRS) Circuit Malfunction
•RPM sensor faults - Fault codes: 0717, 0718, 0722, 0723, 2200, 2201, 2204, 2205, 2206, 2207, 2767, 2768; transmission in limp-home mode (occasionally)
