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Seized Engine Please Help

Old Feb 19, 2025 | 06:11 AM
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Engine Seized. Please help

This is what the garage has sent me claiming the engine has failed completely on its own and has had nothing to do with them.

This is an OM642 engine with 120K miles on the clock. The car itself is a 2010 plate Mercedes s class W221 facelift

Here is a timeline of what’s happened.
1. We sent the car off for an oil cooler replacement due to a major oil leak. (Garage confirmed it was safe to drive and the level of oil at the time of inspection was good)
2. Garage replaced the cooler, and took the car out for an extended test drive during which the engine came to a complete halt on the motorway with no prior warnings and no signs on the dash.
Garage claims that the car had run for 40 minutes before the engine became seized. Total distance of the test drive should be around 8 miles at best.

Garage is blaming on the soot and sludge buildup and the ‘lack of maintenance’.
The last oil change was done slightly over 1 year ago but the car was practically never driven in between apart from someone starting it up from time to time.

Can anyone please shed some light on whose fault it is and what’s happened with the engine in the photos?

Thanks!
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 06:35 AM
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tractor running veg fat fuel ?

if you run cheap fuels it often leads to the piston rings gumming up - and that stops one of the piston rings main tasks from happening. they have two roles. 1) help seal so combustion gases turn the bang in to power 2) is the main method an engine has for the thermal transfer from the piston crown and into the engine block and its cooling system
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 06:42 AM
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No I’m certain it’s had nothing to do with the fuel. Im trying to ascertain if the garage is trying to avoid taking responsibility or if it just naturally happened
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if we go back to why the garage were working on it....

why was the oil cooler being changed - leaking ? engine's can take massive abuse - the more gently you abuse, the longer it lasts - but one is still trashing what’s in there - if I top up the oil before asking them to fix a leak that doesn't mean the engine is healthy inside

you can see the piston in one of your photos has smeared down the bore - as that seized slowly, it puts massive stress into the big end bearings you show that are also trashed

I have no doubt the garage gave the car some exercise - they do that - its their reward for hours of hell working on crap - if the car was serviceable it should have operated normally - and the exercise would have helped
if the car has 100% std engine management (no bodge on maps or tuning it to death) and an auto box - no matter how hard they try the car should return happy

the fact it hasn't could suggest

1) it been remapped and they over did it being a little over enthusiastic
2) the car has been operated for a very long time with low oil quantity - and remembering low oil = hot oil, and that hot oil wears out - we can easily get consistent long term damage - top up now and then, and drive a tractor slow it might last thousands of miles longer - but its still dead inside



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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 07:05 AM
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The car is completely stock and factory. Oil level was fine as we were concerned about it on our return to the vehicle and checked it (slightly over the midpoint between min and max) before the service was carried out.

The car wasn’t run for a couple of months after the previous service as we were abroad. We left the car with the security so it could be started from time to time and are certain the car wasn’t driven much.
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 07:07 AM
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check this out - it shows alongside the pic we have of the cylinder bores - that the bore and most of the piston is in great shape (although it needs a pic with it turned 90 degrees to see the area of the piston that actually matters) - it suggest the wear one would expect with time and normal use is not there at all

what I see is massive localised heating of the top of the piston around its rings - this is the piston crown getting too hot because the rings haven't thrown the heat away - that is why my first post says nasty fuel - it make the rings stick and causes the problem in this photo

or they threw petrol in it and had some fun


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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 10:26 AM
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not saying this is definitive - take a look and tell us which you think it is - and if the causes align

https://highwayandheavyparts.com/pis...ick-reference/
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 10:39 AM
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OP it looks as though a connecting rod bearing spun and seized. Pistons look very angry.

This speaks of insufficient lubrication. Low quality oil, perhaps someone added snake oil to the lubricant at regular intervals?

The deposits on pistons and rings don’t just happen. They are the result of years of poor fuel quality and lack of basic maintenance.

Too often an oil leak isn’t discovered until the oil level dropped low enough for damage to bearings.

You are going to get to buy an engine overhaul or replacement.

Nobody likes it. Swallow your bitter pill.

Be sure the replacement sees more regular maintenance.
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Pistons clearly show major lack of lubrication. The shop replaced the engine oil cooler. Was it plugged up and prevented lubrication.

does someone know if oil pressure sensor is before or after the cooler? Plugged or partially plugged cooler would keep pressure up for sure but oil flow to lubrication needing parts is compromised.

For cooler replacement I assume oil did not need draining. If it did then did they fill it up again after work was done.

My guess is the new cooler was plugged.
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the top of the piston doesn't really get lube - the rings leave the merest hint of lube above them - and that will be there no matter what unless the sump is empty - and on a tractor the fuel is oil giving another source of lube - gummed rings can drive the lack of heat transfer - which I think drove exceptional piston temps - maybe the security boys took it for joy rides and mistakenly topped it up with petrol

my guess is the bottom end gave up when the seizure of the pistons broke down the tiny oil film keeping the big ends safe and it all ends in tears

I do not know enough about how tractors fail under abuse when run on petrol - but of course high combustion pressure from running petrol ??? would also stress the bottom end more than normal - that said I gather petrol cars oddly seem to hate running on tractor fuel more than tractors fear petrol


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