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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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MF Buy rate for the Coupe?

If we get the European Delivery date for the AMG GTS confirmed, we'll get that car. Driving that car at 190mph+ in Germany and taking it to southern France would be great fun.

If not, I am still contemplating the practicality of the AWD of the S-Class coupe since we would use the car quite a bit in the winter as well.

AMG's typically have a lower residual and higher MF (plus no discount on Euro delivery), the regular S-Class & coupes are bargains compared to it.

I believe that the buy rate on the S sedan is still 0.00130. Is that the same on the coupe?
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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no. in march 2015, the buy rate was .0021875 or 5.25% and the dealer can markup another 2% on top of that to 7.25%. absolute usury if you ask me. dealer said someone will pay it. not me. i don't mind spending the money, but there is no value in numbers like that. and the dealer has no compunction whatsoever charging those rates. i dont know what the april or may rates will be; they change monthly as you know.
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no. in march 2015, the buy rate was .0021875 or 5.25% and the dealer can markup another 2% on top of that to 7.25%. absolute usury if you ask me. dealer said someone will pay it. not me. i don't mind spending the money, but there is no value in numbers like that. and the dealer has no compunction whatsoever charging those rates. i dont know what the april or may rates will be; they change monthly as you know.
^ btw -- that discussion was for the s coupe. the s sedan lease buy rate is still .00130. just clarifying my response.
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That's an insane MF
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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no. in march 2015, the buy rate was .0021875 or 5.25% and the dealer can markup another 2% on top of that to 7.25%. absolute usury if you ask me. dealer said someone will pay it. not me. i don't mind spending the money, but there is no value in numbers like that. and the dealer has no compunction whatsoever charging those rates. i dont know what the april or may rates will be; they change monthly as you know.
Those are crazy numbers for a non-AMG and yes, there is no value in numbers like that. The coupe is already $20k+ more to begin with and all coupes I spec'd or have seen are $140k-$150k for the S550.

Makes the sedan look like an even better bargain as $10k off is a starting point for negotiations.
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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that's why i bought the sedan and not the coupe. value. pure value play.
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sedan ain't no coupe tho
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sedan ain't no coupe tho
Agreed....makes me think I should finance rather than lease my European delivery S550 coupe, because I can always re-finance a purchase loan through but not a lease. Taking European delivery you have to use MB because there is no VIN assigned at the time you have to pay for it.
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Agreed....makes me think I should finance rather than lease my European delivery S550 coupe, because I can always re-finance a purchase loan through but not a lease. Taking European delivery you have to use MB because there is no VIN assigned at the time you have to pay for it.
Well, the coupe is a re-branded CL. Historically sales are low on these and depreciation is not kind to them.

I love the coupe and there are only a few around where we are but I expect the same deals as the sedan moving forward.

Our dealer will give me 7% off (no matter the config) anyway to match ED and I assume better deals on the remaining Edition 1 coupe.

Financing means longer ownership, so you need to want to drive these for 5-7 years unless you want to get taken to the cleaners at trade-in time.

Personally I think the tech moves too fast and improved models are always around the corner, so having these for 2-3 years feels ideal.
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Well, the coupe is a re-branded CL. Historically sales are low on these and depreciation is not kind to them.

I love the coupe and there are only a few around where we are but I expect the same deals as the sedan moving forward.

Our dealer will give me 7% off (no matter the config) anyway to match ED and I assume better deals on the remaining Edition 1 coupe.

Financing means longer ownership, so you need to want to drive these for 5-7 years unless you want to get taken to the cleaners at trade-in time.

Personally I think the tech moves too fast and improved models are always around the corner, so having these for 2-3 years feels ideal.
I can relate to that....the max discount I can find on an ordered 2016 is 3%, however I now have 2 dealers bidding for the european delivery deal at 7% plus an extra 3% off. Pretty compelling. Is the residual based on MSRP or a percentage of what I paid?
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MF for S550's are much lower than that for May
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Old May 19, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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lets just say they're in the 2.61% range.
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Originally Posted by JasonMayes
lets just say they're in the 2.61% range.
Interesting...I'm gonna have to put pen to paper a few times to compare the lease vs. buy scenario. Taking delivery in Sindelfingen August 10th, because it's ED the rates for buying or leasing are apparently .50% higher. I have to pay for the car (lease or finance) 30 days before. If I lease through MB I cannot refinance into a new lease...but if I finance at over 3% I can re-finance with PenFed for 1.99% up to 60 months. Leasing would of course result in lower payments but I don't want to pay an exorbitant factor for the privilege.
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Interesting...I'm gonna have to put pen to paper a few times to compare the lease vs. buy scenario. Taking delivery in Sindelfingen August 10th, because it's ED the rates for buying or leasing are apparently .50% higher. I have to pay for the car (lease or finance) 30 days before. If I lease through MB I cannot refinance into a new lease...but if I finance at over 3% I can re-finance with PenFed for 1.99% up to 60 months. Leasing would of course result in lower payments but I don't want to pay an exorbitant factor for the privilege.
Couple observations:
Dealers offer 10% off for ED on 2016 models (7% ED plus 3% dealer discount), both on coupe & sedan. This may offset higher MF. Make sure you get that...

Since the coupe's MF is non-discounted anyway (unlike the sedan), the difference in MF may be negligible .

Also, the non-ED MF for the sedans is actually lower than 2.61% (.00099/2.4%). Not sure if this is the actual buy rate or still with a bit of margin.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Couple observations:
Dealers offer 10% off for ED on 2016 models (7% ED plus 3% dealer discount), both on coupe & sedan. This may offset higher MF. Make sure you get that...

Since the coupe's MF is non-discounted anyway (unlike the sedan), the difference in MF may be negligible .

Also, the non-ED MF for the sedans is actually lower than 2.61% (.00099/2.4%). Not sure if this is the actual buy rate or still with a bit of margin.
Great information, thank you.
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