Notices
S-Class (W222) 2014-2020

What kind of a deal did you get on your 2018 S560?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 12:21 PM
  #1  
Streamliner's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,125
Likes: 4,353
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
What kind of a deal did you get on your 2018 S560?

It is obvious that MB is playing games with the allocations for the S560, keeping dealer inventory very tight, while flooding them with S450’s. The incentives for the S450’s are there, but virtually nonexistent for the S560. If you are an USAA member, the discount on the S450 is a whopping $4500.00, while for the S560, it’s only $1500.00.

I would like to know what you folks out there with new S560 models were able to negotiate as far as discounts off of MSRP on a purchase. If you leased, what were your numbers? If and when I get a new S560, I’ll be happy to post my numbers. It’s a jungle out there and we need to stick together. Thanks to all who reply.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 04:03 PM
  #2  
RoseyPSU's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 55
Likes: 8
From: Pennsylvania
2018 s560 4matic
I'm trying to find out the same thing. I'm currently looking at an s560 4matic. Sticker is roughly $121,000. Dealer is at $113,500 before tax and tags. Not sure if that's a good deal or not. It's about a 6.2% markdown.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 06:23 PM
  #3  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,539
Likes: 3,670
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Since I switched to a different model I can’t provide updated info but my deal was 10% off a custom build last November.
Custom orders discounts are typically lower than a floor model because those cost money every day just standing around.
There was an OP at 17% off a custom order but that one is a rarity.
I would expect 12% or so on a floor model but with fewer allocations and good demand it depends on the attractiveness of the build (colors, options).

I always recommend to nail down the discount at the time of order, not delivery (if custom).

Good luck Stream!
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:31 PM
  #4  
sam9187's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 96
From: Texas
2014 S550 - SOLD, 2014 GL550 - SOLD, 2014 GL63 AMG, 2015 S63 AMG Sedan, 2015 S63 AMG Coupe
10% off custom build is a great deal IMO. For a S63 I was offered either MSRP or max of 2% on a custom build. The problem I found was the lack of allocations. 99% of dealers did not have any allocations for the S63 sedan or the coupe.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 11:00 PM
  #5  
JY-MB's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 67
Likes: 3
From: Cincinnati
18 s560
I ordered my s560 the way I wanted it. I put nothing down to order it. Sticker was $149,680 got the car for $122,00. I leased it for 36 months 12k miles a yr
2k downpayment. Payment is $1840 a month. Also get prepaid maintenance.
Idk if that’s an excellent deal but I think it’s a decent to good deal. As for allocations I think MB thought the cheaper 450 would be bigger sellers.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 06:48 AM
  #6  
syswei's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,755
Likes: 797
From: FL & CT
2015 S550 Palladium/Deep Sea Blue, 2016 Tesla Model S 70D, 2015 Volvo XC70
Originally Posted by sam9187
10% off custom build is a great deal IMO. For a S63 I was offered either MSRP or max of 2% on a custom build. The problem I found was the lack of allocations. 99% of dealers did not have any allocations for the S63 sedan or the coupe.
Would ordering European Delivery help with an AMG? I thought I read somewhere that ED cars (at least non-AMG) did not come from a dealer's allocation, but that could be wrong, or my memory wrong. Plus there is the standard ED discount, though I don;t know if that applies to AMG.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 07:00 AM
  #7  
sam9187's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 96
From: Texas
2014 S550 - SOLD, 2014 GL550 - SOLD, 2014 GL63 AMG, 2015 S63 AMG Sedan, 2015 S63 AMG Coupe
Originally Posted by syswei
Would ordering European Delivery help with an AMG? I thought I read somewhere that ED cars (at least non-AMG) did not come from a dealer's allocation, but that could be wrong, or my memory wrong. Plus there is the standard ED discount, though I don;t know if that applies to AMG.
I was told there is no discount on a S63 for European delivery.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:16 AM
  #8  
SB_NYC's Avatar
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 188
Likes: 70
From: NYC
W223 S580, Range Rover LWB, BMW 740i, Porsche 911 Carrera S (997), Maserati QP GTS, W124 250D
ED price for AMG is 5% off MSRP plus waived destination charge. I have a strong feeling you can negociate another 3 or so percent off.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:17 AM
  #9  
MTrauman's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 391
'25 S63 AMG E Performance, '26 CLE 53 AMG
Originally Posted by sam9187
I was told there is no discount on a S63 for European delivery.
Who told you there is no discount on S63 for Euro Delivery?
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:50 AM
  #10  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,539
Likes: 3,670
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by MTrauman


Who told you there is no discount on S63 for Euro Delivery?
There are many AMG’s that have no discount for ED. Haven’t checked lately but some models weren’t even available for ED.
More common AMG models may have a discount.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 01:08 PM
  #11  
MTrauman's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 391
'25 S63 AMG E Performance, '26 CLE 53 AMG

Originally Posted by Wolfman

There are many AMG’s that have no discount for ED. Haven’t checked lately but some models weren’t even available for ED.
More common AMG models may have a discount.
To my knowledge the S63 sedan still has the 5% discount (I have been thinking about Euro Delievery on S63 sedan—I was just at the Sindelfingen plant last July and rented a 17 S63 for about 9 days so I am debating in my head doing Euro on S63 but I love my ‘16 S550 4matic so not sure if I will Euro Delivery S63). I also believe the S63C and the S63A may have the discounts but am not as sure about the coupes and cabs.

I ADDED A PICTURE OF WHAT SHOULD BE CURRENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS THEY HAVE VERY RECENTLY CHANGED.

Last edited by MTrauman; Feb 19, 2018 at 01:47 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 02:32 PM
  #12  
syswei's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,755
Likes: 797
From: FL & CT
2015 S550 Palladium/Deep Sea Blue, 2016 Tesla Model S 70D, 2015 Volvo XC70
Originally Posted by MTrauman
I ADDED A PICTURE OF WHAT SHOULD BE CURRENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS THEY HAVE VERY RECENTLY CHANGED.
Thanks for posting. Interesting that CLS63 for example isn't on the list, even though it is toward the end of its cycle.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 03:47 PM
  #13  
sam9187's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 96
From: Texas
2014 S550 - SOLD, 2014 GL550 - SOLD, 2014 GL63 AMG, 2015 S63 AMG Sedan, 2015 S63 AMG Coupe
Originally Posted by MTrauman
Who told you there is no discount on S63 for Euro Delivery?
Sales rep at Park Place Dallas. He said you can do european delivery for the S63 but there is no discount.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 03:55 PM
  #14  
SB_NYC's Avatar
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 188
Likes: 70
From: NYC
W223 S580, Range Rover LWB, BMW 740i, Porsche 911 Carrera S (997), Maserati QP GTS, W124 250D
Originally Posted by sam9187
Sales rep at Park Place Dallas. He said you can do european delivery for the S63 but there is no discount.
I suggest you shop around and find a different dealership.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 08:00 PM
  #15  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,539
Likes: 3,670
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by MTrauman



To my knowledge the S63 sedan still has the 5% discount (I have been thinking about Euro Delievery on S63 sedan—I was just at the Sindelfingen plant last July and rented a 17 S63 for about 9 days so I am debating in my head doing Euro on S63 but I love my ‘16 S550 4matic so not sure if I will Euro Delivery S63). I also believe the S63C and the S63A may have the discounts but am not as sure about the coupes and cabs.

I ADDED A PICTURE OF WHAT SHOULD BE CURRENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS THEY HAVE VERY RECENTLY CHANGED.
I had looked originally at the AMG GT models for European delivery. They are not available but in reality are with the right connections but without discount. Same goes for some other models (65's)
5% is nice for the ED AMG's. I was able to get 3% any ED from our local dealer without really asking.

At the time, we decided to skip ED as any MBFS lease is more expensive as the MF is quite a bit higher than in the US. Then there is the wait and since Germany is home turf it doesn't hold quite the excitement for us.
But going over 180mph is wicked fun
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 08:03 PM
  #16  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,539
Likes: 3,670
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by sam9187
Sales rep at Park Place Dallas. He said you can do european delivery for the S63 but there is no discount.

I am sure this has been mentioned on the forums before but this is a great contact for CA but he will also handle any US ED sales:
Herbert Hämmer
Mercedes-Benz of Escondido
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 12:11 PM
  #17  
Streamliner's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,125
Likes: 4,353
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by JY-MB
I ordered my s560 the way I wanted it. I put nothing down to order it. Sticker was $149,680 got the car for $122,00. I leased it for 36 months 12k miles a yr
2k downpayment. Payment is $1840 a month. Also get prepaid maintenance.
Idk if that’s an excellent deal but I think it’s a decent to good deal. As for allocations I think MB thought the cheaper 450 would be bigger sellers.
Please, let me clarify: You are saying that on a 2018 S560, with an MSRP of $149,680.00, you got a discount of $27,680.00 or almost 18.5%? That when you leased it, the Capitalized Cost was $122,000.00??? This doesn’t sound right. Please confirm your numbers, thanks.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 12:57 PM
  #18  
JY-MB's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 67
Likes: 3
From: Cincinnati
18 s560
That is correct. Every number I listed is 100% accurate.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 01:02 PM
  #19  
Streamliner's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,125
Likes: 4,353
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by JY-MB
That is correct. Every number I listed is 100% accurate.
Is your car a 4-Matic?
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 01:05 PM
  #20  
JY-MB's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 67
Likes: 3
From: Cincinnati
18 s560
Sure is. I posted pictures somewhere on this forum.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 01:14 PM
  #21  
Streamliner's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,125
Likes: 4,353
From: Corona Del Mar, CA
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by JY-MB
Sure is. I posted pictures somewhere on this forum.
OK, last questions--I think: Did your discount off of MSRP have anything to do with some sort of special money, like $5K to $10K from MBUSA to either retain you as an MB customer or to win you away from another brand? Have you routinely received discounts like this on other MB vehicles? You have obviously found a way to uncork some heretofore unknown trunk money. Your numbers blow away anything revealed by anyone here. Might you have any advice as to how one might go about obtaining such a deal? Any guidance would be most appreciated by me and I'm sure by most everyone on this site.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 01:51 PM
  #22  
JY-MB's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 67
Likes: 3
From: Cincinnati
18 s560
Originally Posted by Streamliner
OK, last questions--I think: Did your discount off of MSRP have anything to do with some sort of special money, like $5K to $10K from MBUSA to either retain you as an MB customer or to win you away from another brand? Have you routinely received discounts like this on other MB vehicles? You have obviously found a way to uncork some heretofore unknown trunk money. Your numbers blow away anything revealed by anyone here. Might you have any advice as to how one might go about obtaining such a deal? Any guidance would be most appreciated by me and I'm sure by most everyone on this site.
sure can.
1. I have no idea where they got money back from or how they got it down to $122k. Just what my lease paperwork says.

2. I love making dealerships bid against one another. I had multiple offers and I just kept going back and forth.

3. I did purchase a 2015 sclass from same place and got a 10k discount off a $117k sticker. Got it in January of 15. I got that by using BMW 7-Series against them and went back and forth between the two options.

4. I’m actually at a Honda dealership this very moment doing the exact same tactic. Find as many dealers as you can and make them beat the price don’t just let them match.

5. Be patient!! Never take the first or even second offer even if it’s what you want. You can always get better.
I assumed my deal was ok. I didn’t realize it was anything special. I wanted my payment around $1500. I was actually upset with myself when I left the dealership.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 03:23 PM
  #23  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,539
Likes: 3,670
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by JY-MB


sure can.
1. I have no idea where they got money back from or how they got it down to $122k. Just what my lease paperwork says.

2. I love making dealerships bid against one another. I had multiple offers and I just kept going back and forth.

3. I did purchase a 2015 sclass from same place and got a 10k discount off a $117k sticker. Got it in January of 15. I got that by using BMW 7-Series against them and went back and forth between the two options.

4. I’m actually at a Honda dealership this very moment doing the exact same tactic. Find as many dealers as you can and make them beat the price don’t just let them match.

5. Be patient!! Never take the first or even second offer even if it’s what you want. You can always get better.
I assumed my deal was ok. I didn’t realize it was anything special. I wanted my payment around $1500. I was actually upset with myself when I left the dealership.
Your discount was too high for a MY18 at that time. No trunk money for that car or any other incentive. Since you 2015 S550 discount was only average my only assumption is that they goofed up at the dealership and thought this was a MY17 and applied those discounts to your lease. Seen that before. Once signed there is no way for them to come back to you...
Your lease payments were higher due to the higher MF which it typical on new model and FL introductions... They get heavily discounted after the first year unless they can't keep up with demand.

+ 1 on your strategy is to shop around and have deals in place at other dealers. Especially when local. They hate losing customers to another place in town...
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 03:49 PM
  #24  
JY-MB's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 67
Likes: 3
From: Cincinnati
18 s560
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Your discount was too high for a MY18 at that time. No trunk money for that car or any other incentive. Since you 2015 S550 discount was only average my only assumption is that they goofed up at the dealership and thought this was a MY17 and applied those discounts to your lease. Seen that before. Once signed there is no way for them to come back to you...
Your lease payments were higher due to the higher MF which it typical on new model and FL introductions... They get heavily discounted after the first year unless they can't keep up with demand.

+ 1 on your strategy is to shop around and have deals in place at other dealers. Especially when local. They hate losing customers to another place in town...
I ordered my 18 in May and it was delivered the first wk of October. I can assure you they didn’t think it was a 17. Back in May they gave me a price of $1840 per month and I told them if it was $1 more than that I wouldn’t accept the car. I even took that price to other dealers before car was delivered to see if they could beat it. None could. They all told me if the dealership does that take the deal. When I went in to pick the car up I fully expected them to change price on me when I arrived but they didn’t. So I signed. I thought $150k sticker with only 2k down payment and maintenance included at $1840 was reasonable.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2018 | 06:16 PM
  #25  
Wolfman's Avatar
Super Moderator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,539
Likes: 3,670
From: Land of 10,000 lakes
AMG GTC Roadster, E63s Ed.1, M8 Comp. Coupe
Originally Posted by JY-MB

I ordered my 18 in May and it was delivered the first wk of October. I can assure you they didn’t think it was a 17. Back in May they gave me a price of $1840 per month and I told them if it was $1 more than that I wouldn’t accept the car. I even took that price to other dealers before car was delivered to see if they could beat it. None could. They all told me if the dealership does that take the deal. When I went in to pick the car up I fully expected them to change price on me when I arrived but they didn’t. So I signed. I thought $150k sticker with only 2k down payment and maintenance included at $1840 was reasonable.
Point is most dealers in the country wouldn't do more than 5% on a new custom-order S560 in 2017. My17's weren't moving and heavily discounted and MY18 rare to find. This obviously changes over time but after launch I had to threaten our dealer somewhat to even get the 10%. I haven't heard from anyone getting more on a custom order and was OK to proceed. Our MY15 was a much better deal than 10%

What is odd on your purchase (to your benefit) that the dealer committed to a monthly payment without knowing the financial fundamentals of the new car or the demand of it. That borders on being idiotic.
In May 2017, neither MF, residuals or price was exactly known. That simply makes zero financial sense.

What we know is that the MF doubled between MY17 & 18, residuals didn't improve and all incentives moved to promote the S450. Two things could have happened if they didn't apply the wrong discounts:
1. They felt committed to meet the promised monthly payment. That requires to discount the car to match the price. Have never seen a dealer be that committed.
2. They may have gotten worried because of your specific build not being sellable if you backed out. Your build is very close to their launch edition config with another $19k in options. The country was full of these launch cars which have sold poorly due to their somewhat controversial color combo. Higher-priced builds sell even slower.

I don't want to be misunderstood. You got a great deal; the best deal I have seen on a custom MY18 S560 anywhere in the US. Re. the lease payment, if you have a worksheet that shows the MF let us know what that is. There are lease calculators that can calculate that number. They may have bumped that number up to get some extra money back...

Last edited by Wolfman; Feb 22, 2018 at 07:06 PM.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:22 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE